Vet Grinding.

J011Y_R063R

I know this topic isn't one that most people are willing to speak on but with the upcoming deconstruction of the Veteran ranks more and more people are wanting to hit that Vet 16 ceiling than ever before. So this discussion thread is for people to post good places to have your character grind and to level them up quickly and efficiently. I hate to reveal all these good spots to the open public but time is running out and I don't want anyone to miss out. I am currently Vet 13 and I am using the Old Orsinium Public dungeon at the far west of orsinium on the northern portion of the map. I wish you all good luck in your grinding and I hope you all hit the cap before its demise.

WalkingLegacy

I'm finishing cadwell gold for my grind.

V13 as well.

Lightninvash

J011Y_R063R wrote: »

I know this topic isn't one that most people are willing to speak on but with the upcoming deconstruction of the Veteran ranks more and more people are wanting to hit that Vet 16 ceiling than ever before. So this discussion thread is for people to post good places to have your character grind and to level them up quickly and efficiently. I hate to reveal all these good spots to the open public but time is running out and I don't want anyone to miss out. I am currently Vet 13 and I am using the Old Orsinium Public dungeon at the far west of orsinium on the northern portion of the map. I wish you all good luck in your grinding and I hope you all hit the cap before its demise.

rkindaleft is better or however you spell it it is in wrothgar as well north of the orisinium city. it is a public dungeon. I am already v16 and only need to grind out to lvl 50 on few chars I want to have max gear on. so enjoy that one.

emily3989

No real reason to unless you want the V16 costume award, assuming it won't be changed to a 160CP reward.

Whether you grind now to V16 or grind after DLC for the missed CP bonus, you will still be grinding the same amount of time, so six of one scenario there.

Lightninvash

another good area is IC on low population areas but always travel in group of 2 or 3 no more.

You can always go to cracked wood cave in cyrodiil as well.

From what I hear doing Maelstrom arena is a good xp area as well and not needing to compete for xp.

LadyLethalla

I've mostly been doing dailies in Cyrodiil with a Crown scroll. Got to v8 last night - was v4 last Friday, so not too bad. Better than grinding IMO. Fairly sure I can make v16 before DB...

As to why, I just want to see that v16 next to my name before it disappears forever.

Lightninvash

LadyLethalla wrote: »

I've mostly been doing dailies in Cyrodiil with a Crown scroll. Got to v8 last night - was v4 last Friday, so not too bad. Better than grinding IMO. Fairly sure I can make v16 before DB...

As to why, I just want to see that v16 next to my name before it disappears forever.

this is valid though if you want to do quests I recommend doing it this way. gather a full list of quests finish them all but do not turn in for final reward/xp pop a xp scroll/ambrosia. Then go turn in and you get all the quest reward xp for very minimal time of bonus xp

DRXHarbinger

Normal maelstrom. With an ambrosia pot it's about half a vet level for run, but you need max provisioning to get the 50 min duration out of it and it takes about 45 mins if you zip through it. Doesn't seem like a good grind but time flies fast in there.

Rkindleft is pretty good but a mind numbing grind, rewards in there are non existent and far away from repairs and gets saturated with spinning xp stealing gimps most of the time, IC is the best xp in the game but the adds are tough, gankers are out and repairs are pig and consume precious time.

If you have friends on the same level of said IC is the best XP but if you're actually good at the game.....VDSA. every add is a boss and gets you stupid XP. Even on normal stick a scroll or pot on and cut through it. I never used it for grinding but before I hit CP cap I always always walked out of there with 2 CP so without enlightenment that's what 800k XP isn't it?

J011Y_R063R

emily3989 wrote: »

No real reason to unless you want the V16 costume award, assuming it won't be changed to a 160CP reward.

Whether you grind now to V16 or grind after DLC for the missed CP bonus, you will still be grinding the same amount of time, so six of one scenario there.

The reason is so people don't have to grind it out on other char's if you have one character with vet 16 then when the new DLC hits your other characters have the equivalent CP and don't have to grind. However no one is sure whether this will be the case after DLC hits and you get a character to vet 1 after. I would prefer only having to do this monstrous grind 1 time, and im sure others would

NewBlacksmurf

Id strongly suggest doing the skills quests.
Grinding doesn't help cause u have to go back and do them.

Trust me. I did it on an alt. That was the stupidest thing I've ever done

J011Y_R063R

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Id strongly suggest doing the skills quests.
Grinding doesn't help cause u have to go back and do them.

Trust me. I did it on an alt. That was the stupidest thing I've ever done

I agree wholeheartedly with this, DO THE SKILLPOINT QUESTS FIRST AND SAVE YOURSELF SOME TROUBLE! all of these quests including cadwell's silver and gold can be found online.

I however was asking for those of us that have completed it to find we are Vet 13 and not Vet 16.

This was important to mention however thank you for noting it.

LadyLethalla

Lightninvash wrote: »

LadyLethalla wrote: »

I've mostly been doing dailies in Cyrodiil with a Crown scroll. Got to v8 last night - was v4 last Friday, so not too bad. Better than grinding IMO. Fairly sure I can make v16 before DB...

As to why, I just want to see that v16 next to my name before it disappears forever.

this is valid though if you want to do quests I recommend doing it this way. gather a full list of quests finish them all but do not turn in for final reward/xp pop a xp scroll/ambrosia. Then go turn in and you get all the quest reward xp for very minimal time of bonus xp

Yeah but you can't use the Crown scrolls in Cyrodiil. Found that out the hard way... It is a better method for the Ambrosia of course.

emily3989

J011Y_R063R wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

No real reason to unless you want the V16 costume award, assuming it won't be changed to a 160CP reward.

Whether you grind now to V16 or grind after DLC for the missed CP bonus, you will still be grinding the same amount of time, so six of one scenario there.

The reason is so people don't have to grind it out on other char's if you have one character with vet 16 then when the new DLC hits your other characters have the equivalent CP and don't have to grind. However no one is sure whether this will be the case after DLC hits and you get a character to vet 1 after. I would prefer only having to do this monstrous grind 1 time, and im sure others would

This makes no sense, as there won't be any Vet ranks to grind after DLC. The whole reason for removing the Vet ranking system is to prevent having to "grind" multiple characters. In fact, at that point all characters V1 already will share CP and be equivalent, so you will be advancing all your characters at the same time regardless of which one you are playing.

waterfairy

J011Y_R063R wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

No real reason to unless you want the V16 costume award, assuming it won't be changed to a 160CP reward.

Whether you grind now to V16 or grind after DLC for the missed CP bonus, you will still be grinding the same amount of time, so six of one scenario there.

The reason is so people don't have to grind it out on other char's if you have one character with vet 16 then when the new DLC hits your other characters have the equivalent CP and don't have to grind. However no one is sure whether this will be the case after DLC hits and you get a character to vet 1 after. I would prefer only having to do this monstrous grind 1 time, and im sure others would

If you have 160 CP then you'll automatically be the equivalent of VR 16 after the update. I have a couple of vets- rank 1, 1 and 2 with a combined CP of 133 so they'll all become VR 13 in essence.

J011Y_R063R

emily3989 wrote: »

J011Y_R063R wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

No real reason to unless you want the V16 costume award, assuming it won't be changed to a 160CP reward.

Whether you grind now to V16 or grind after DLC for the missed CP bonus, you will still be grinding the same amount of time, so six of one scenario there.

The reason is so people don't have to grind it out on other char's if you have one character with vet 16 then when the new DLC hits your other characters have the equivalent CP and don't have to grind. However no one is sure whether this will be the case after DLC hits and you get a character to vet 1 after. I would prefer only having to do this monstrous grind 1 time, and im sure others would

This makes no sense, as there won't be any Vet ranks to grind after DLC. The whole reason for removing the Vet ranking system is to prevent having to "grind" multiple characters. In fact, at that point all characters V1 already will share CP and be equivalent, so you will be advancing all your characters at the same time regardless of which one you are playing.

I see your point, and thanks for helping me understand that better. I would still like to have a variety of places to grind out these last few levels. That way if one is too full I have options. Thank you for posting though.

Lightninvash

emily3989 wrote: »

J011Y_R063R wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

No real reason to unless you want the V16 costume award, assuming it won't be changed to a 160CP reward.

Whether you grind now to V16 or grind after DLC for the missed CP bonus, you will still be grinding the same amount of time, so six of one scenario there.

The reason is so people don't have to grind it out on other char's if you have one character with vet 16 then when the new DLC hits your other characters have the equivalent CP and don't have to grind. However no one is sure whether this will be the case after DLC hits and you get a character to vet 1 after. I would prefer only having to do this monstrous grind 1 time, and im sure others would

This makes no sense, as there won't be any Vet ranks to grind after DLC. The whole reason for removing the Vet ranking system is to prevent having to "grind" multiple characters. In fact, at that point all characters V1 already will share CP and be equivalent, so you will be advancing all your characters at the same time regardless of which one you are playing.

well see not everyone has hit v16 yet on the first char and so that being said not everyone has 160cp. so getting a char to v16 allows them to level up other chars to 50 in the mean time. Because when they take out vet levels if you are v16 and don't have 160 cp they will boost your cp to 160. this way he can do the grind once and gain cp while leveling alts essentially. I think that's what he means @emily3989

MasterSpatula

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

I'm finishing cadwell gold for my grind.

V13 as well.

I'm burning through as much of Cadwell's as I can, since the $#$#@$#@%$#@%$#@ diminishing returns on XP they're about to add means they're disincentivizing Cadwells' even more than it already is, so it'll be next to impossible to find anyone to do Public Dungeons and WBs with.

Lightninvash

MasterSpatula wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

I'm finishing cadwell gold for my grind.

V13 as well.

I'm burning through as much of Cadwell's as I can, since the $#$#@$#@%$#@%$#@ diminishing returns on XP they're about to add means they're disincentivizing Cadwells' even more than it already is, so it'll be next to impossible to find anyone to do Public Dungeons and WBs with.

essentially everyone above 160 cp wil register as 160 cp for xp purposes at least from what I understand.

MasterSpatula

Lightninvash wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

I'm finishing cadwell gold for my grind.

V13 as well.

I'm burning through as much of Cadwell's as I can, since the $#$#@$#@%$#@%$#@ diminishing returns on XP they're about to add means they're disincentivizing Cadwells' even more than it already is, so it'll be next to impossible to find anyone to do Public Dungeons and WBs with.

essentially everyone above 160 cp wil register as 160 cp for xp purposes at least from what I understand.

But some of us are between VR10-16 and have less than 160CP but still haven't finished Cadwell's. I know it seems unlikely, but that's what I get for taking a year break right after they introduced CP.

Lightninvash

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

I'm finishing cadwell gold for my grind.

V13 as well.

I'm burning through as much of Cadwell's as I can, since the $#$#@$#@%$#@%$#@ diminishing returns on XP they're about to add means they're disincentivizing Cadwells' even more than it already is, so it'll be next to impossible to find anyone to do Public Dungeons and WBs with.

essentially everyone above 160 cp wil register as 160 cp for xp purposes at least from what I understand.

But some of us are between VR10-16 and have less than 160CP but still haven't finished Cadwell's. I know it seems unlikely, but that's what I get for taking a year break right after they introduced CP.

yes and if you are say v14 with say 100 cp when they remove the vet levels you will have 140cp same if you were v16 with 120cp you would have 160cp.

MasterSpatula

Lightninvash wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

I'm finishing cadwell gold for my grind.

V13 as well.

I'm burning through as much of Cadwell's as I can, since the $#$#@$#@%$#@%$#@ diminishing returns on XP they're about to add means they're disincentivizing Cadwells' even more than it already is, so it'll be next to impossible to find anyone to do Public Dungeons and WBs with.

essentially everyone above 160 cp wil register as 160 cp for xp purposes at least from what I understand.

But some of us are between VR10-16 and have less than 160CP but still haven't finished Cadwell's. I know it seems unlikely, but that's what I get for taking a year break right after they introduced CP.

yes and if you are say v14 with say 100 cp when they remove the vet levels you will have 140cp same if you were v16 with 120cp you would have 160cp.

Yes, and at that point I will get 30% XP for doing Cadwell's.

WalkingLegacy

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

I'm finishing cadwell gold for my grind.

V13 as well.

I'm burning through as much of Cadwell's as I can, since the $#$#@$#@%$#@%$#@ diminishing returns on XP they're about to add means they're disincentivizing Cadwells' even more than it already is, so it'll be next to impossible to find anyone to do Public Dungeons and WBs with.

essentially everyone above 160 cp wil register as 160 cp for xp purposes at least from what I understand.

But some of us are between VR10-16 and have less than 160CP but still haven't finished Cadwell's. I know it seems unlikely, but that's what I get for taking a year break right after they introduced CP.

yes and if you are say v14 with say 100 cp when they remove the vet levels you will have 140cp same if you were v16 with 120cp you would have 160cp.

Yes, and at that point I will get 30% XP for doing Cadwell's.

I'm in Stormhaven now as a v13 and the XP earning is so weak it hurts my soul.

I have over 200 CPs currently.

MasterSpatula

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

I'm finishing cadwell gold for my grind.

V13 as well.

I'm burning through as much of Cadwell's as I can, since the $#$#@$#@%$#@%$#@ diminishing returns on XP they're about to add means they're disincentivizing Cadwells' even more than it already is, so it'll be next to impossible to find anyone to do Public Dungeons and WBs with.

essentially everyone above 160 cp wil register as 160 cp for xp purposes at least from what I understand.

But some of us are between VR10-16 and have less than 160CP but still haven't finished Cadwell's. I know it seems unlikely, but that's what I get for taking a year break right after they introduced CP.

yes and if you are say v14 with say 100 cp when they remove the vet levels you will have 140cp same if you were v16 with 120cp you would have 160cp.

Yes, and at that point I will get 30% XP for doing Cadwell's.

I'm in Stormhaven now as a v13 and the XP earning is so weak it hurts my soul.

I have over 200 CPs currently.

That's sort of the point. They need to incentivize Cadwell's, not disincentivize it.

(Of course, they need to do the exact, precise opposite of a few of the things they're doing.)

IcyDeadPeople

J011Y_R063R wrote: »

I know this topic isn't one that most people are willing to speak on but with the upcoming deconstruction of the Veteran ranks more and more people are wanting to hit that Vet 16 ceiling than ever before. So this discussion thread is for people to post good places to have your character grind and to level them up quickly and efficiently. I hate to reveal all these good spots to the open public but time is running out and I don't want anyone to miss out. I am currently Vet 13 and I am using the Old Orsinium Public dungeon at the far west of orsinium on the northern portion of the map. I wish you all good luck in your grinding and I hope you all hit the cap before its demise.

I suppose it's only those who don't have any V16 or at least 160 CP who would be grinding these days.

The best spot in the game I've tried so far is Cracked Wood Cave. Did over 5 million/hr there solo, no ESO plus, no pledge of mara partner etc, during the jubilee cake week.

However, it's random luck whether you will be able to grind there without too many allies reducing your XP, or too many enemies killing you. When this happens it becomes much worse compared to Orsinium, IC Sewers or anywhere else.

WalkingLegacy

MasterSpatula wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

I'm finishing cadwell gold for my grind.

V13 as well.

I'm burning through as much of Cadwell's as I can, since the $#$#@$#@%$#@%$#@ diminishing returns on XP they're about to add means they're disincentivizing Cadwells' even more than it already is, so it'll be next to impossible to find anyone to do Public Dungeons and WBs with.

essentially everyone above 160 cp wil register as 160 cp for xp purposes at least from what I understand.

But some of us are between VR10-16 and have less than 160CP but still haven't finished Cadwell's. I know it seems unlikely, but that's what I get for taking a year break right after they introduced CP.

yes and if you are say v14 with say 100 cp when they remove the vet levels you will have 140cp same if you were v16 with 120cp you would have 160cp.

Yes, and at that point I will get 30% XP for doing Cadwell's.

I'm in Stormhaven now as a v13 and the XP earning is so weak it hurts my soul.

I have over 200 CPs currently.

That's sort of the point. They need to incentivize Cadwell's, not disincentivize it.

(Of course, they need to do the exact, precise opposite of a few of the things they're doing.)

Only doing it for the skillpoints. I think they need to get rid of it. Breaks the point of picking a faction at the start of the game and with so much DLC they don't need the artificial 'content' boost it brings.

J011Y_R063R

I understand that there is a lot of debate on this topic of the CP change. But with this thread we are currently just discussing good places for players who have not hit the level cap to go and grind. I, in no way, intend to sound rude by saying this but if we could remain on the topic of the discussion to help lower level players hit max level it would be greatly appreciated.

MasterSpatula

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

I'm finishing cadwell gold for my grind.

V13 as well.

I'm burning through as much of Cadwell's as I can, since the $#$#@$#@%$#@%$#@ diminishing returns on XP they're about to add means they're disincentivizing Cadwells' even more than it already is, so it'll be next to impossible to find anyone to do Public Dungeons and WBs with.

essentially everyone above 160 cp wil register as 160 cp for xp purposes at least from what I understand.

But some of us are between VR10-16 and have less than 160CP but still haven't finished Cadwell's. I know it seems unlikely, but that's what I get for taking a year break right after they introduced CP.

yes and if you are say v14 with say 100 cp when they remove the vet levels you will have 140cp same if you were v16 with 120cp you would have 160cp.

Yes, and at that point I will get 30% XP for doing Cadwell's.

I'm in Stormhaven now as a v13 and the XP earning is so weak it hurts my soul.

I have over 200 CPs currently.

That's sort of the point. They need to incentivize Cadwell's, not disincentivize it.

(Of course, they need to do the exact, precise opposite of a few of the things they're doing.)

Only doing it for the skillpoints. I think they need to get rid of it. Breaks the point of picking a faction at the start of the game and with so much DLC they don't need the artificial 'content' boost it brings.

Achievements, skillpoints, skyshards, etc. are all based off of the assumption you're going to do Cadwell's. There's simply no way it's going anywhere. I think by now they may have realized it wasn't the best idea, but it's basically locked into the game.

As for grinding spots, I'll just say this: This is a questing game, not a grinding game. People have been very cautious about revealing their grinding spots on these forums, because whenever ZOS finds out about one, they nerf spawn rates there. So you're unlikely to get a lot of useful responses in the forum. Try in game.

(And that last point is why I'm so perplexed about the diminishing returns in Vet XP thing: It goes against everything they said they were trying to do in removing Vet Ranks.)

emily3989

Lightninvash wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

J011Y_R063R wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

No real reason to unless you want the V16 costume award, assuming it won't be changed to a 160CP reward.

Whether you grind now to V16 or grind after DLC for the missed CP bonus, you will still be grinding the same amount of time, so six of one scenario there.

The reason is so people don't have to grind it out on other char's if you have one character with vet 16 then when the new DLC hits your other characters have the equivalent CP and don't have to grind. However no one is sure whether this will be the case after DLC hits and you get a character to vet 1 after. I would prefer only having to do this monstrous grind 1 time, and im sure others would

This makes no sense, as there won't be any Vet ranks to grind after DLC. The whole reason for removing the Vet ranking system is to prevent having to "grind" multiple characters. In fact, at that point all characters V1 already will share CP and be equivalent, so you will be advancing all your characters at the same time regardless of which one you are playing.

well see not everyone has hit v16 yet on the first char and so that being said not everyone has 160cp. so getting a char to v16 allows them to level up other chars to 50 in the mean time. Because when they take out vet levels if you are v16 and don't have 160 cp they will boost your cp to 160. this way he can do the grind once and gain cp while leveling alts essentially. I think that's what he means @emily3989

Yea, but it's not V16=160 CP or bust. If he is V10 all his toons will still get 100, and he will have to grind just as much after DLC to get to 160 as he would have to now to get to V16.

Anyway, happy grinding. You are probably best off getting to V16 now, there are no guarantees of any of this.

OrangeTheCat

I found a spot with a lot of undead around. I don't remember where; some Dwemer delve; I don't think it really matters very much where you grind. I managed to grind the totality of v15-16 in a couple days. Just make sure you pick your grinding location such that the things you are killing are your level or higher.

SlayerTheDragon

You should be grinding CP now, not Vet Ranks. Just listen a while...

After DB you will not be able to grind out at 100% xp gain if you already have high (200+) CP. You will only get 30% xp gain for max level content on all your characters. Until DB, you can grind out all of your VR1 - VR10 characters and get 100% xp gain.

thisisScoMan

I'm currently Questing / Grinding my way to Vet 16 (highest is Vet 12)

Using rkindaleft when I feel like grinding, just following Caldwell's when I feel like questing. I enjoy the quests, so the XP debuff won't turn me off that too much post DB. Plus the skill points, skyshards etc

Reasons for grinding to Vet 16 even though Vet Ranks are being removed -
- I want to see a VR 16 next to my name, if even for a week
- The 2.5CP per VR on highest level character (I know CP are pretty easy to accumulate, but 40 bonus ones vs 30 bonus ones makes my job of reaching 501 a bit easier. Saves me a few hours down the line)