46 day research time on 9th trait?

LiquidSchwartz

I logged out and back in now my times doubled on everything and my bow is at 46 days for nirnhoned
42d on my inferno for 9th

Uriel_Nocturne

If you max out your Crafting, there's a passive skill in the skill lines that limits research times to no longer than 30 days.

This helps greatly with those last two traits on... pretty much everything. It's still a long time to wait, but it's better than 46 days.

Now if we could find a way to get Enchanting to advance as fast as the other Crafting skills...

Miszou

Also, a subscription will further knock that down to just 27 days.

LiquidSchwartz

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

If you max out your Crafting, there's a passive skill in the skill lines that limits research times to no longer than 30 days.

This helps greatly with those last two traits on... pretty much everything. It's still a long time to wait, but it's better than 46 days.

Now if we could find a way to get Enchanting to advance as fast as the other Crafting skills...

Miszou wrote: »

Also, a subscription will further knock that down to just 27 days.

I subscribe and have max crafting in everything with points in it
Do you see why im confused

emily3989

Research time is pretty much the only passive I put skill points in. You don't need any to improve an item, so you can just get white armor sets made cheap and then just improve them yourself. Funner to do it your self but you can save 30 skill points on your crafter this way.

Paulington

emily3989 wrote: »

Research time is pretty much the only passive I put skill points in. You don't need any to improve an item, so you can just get white armor sets made cheap and then just improve them yourself. Funner to do it your self but you can save 30 skill points on your crafter this way.

Whilst you don't need any to improve items, they make it a lot cheaper. It takes twenty legendary materials to upgrade something without passives and only eight with the full passive.

Lightninvash

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

If you max out your Crafting, there's a passive skill in the skill lines that limits research times to no longer than 30 days.

This helps greatly with those last two traits on... pretty much everything. It's still a long time to wait, but it's better than 46 days.

Now if we could find a way to get Enchanting to advance as fast as the other Crafting skills...

Miszou wrote: »

Also, a subscription will further knock that down to just 27 days.

I subscribe and have max crafting in everything with points in it
Do you see why im confused

at that point id say bug report o.o aybe they will be awesome fix the bug and give you the research trait when it fixes

LiquidSchwartz

emily3989 wrote: »

Research time is pretty much the only passive I put skill points in. You don't need any to improve an item, so you can just get white armor sets made cheap and then just improve them yourself. Funner to do it your self but you can save 30 skill points on your crafter this way.

I have the passives im saying the time has doubled
It was previously 23 h and 21h now its 46 and 42

MissBizz

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

If you max out your Crafting, there's a passive skill in the skill lines that limits research times to no longer than 30 days.

This helps greatly with those last two traits on... pretty much everything. It's still a long time to wait, but it's better than 46 days.

Now if we could find a way to get Enchanting to advance as fast as the other Crafting skills...

Miszou wrote: »

Also, a subscription will further knock that down to just 27 days.

I subscribe and have max crafting in everything with points in it
Do you see why im confused

Well, that's weird.

As for the sub part, did you look at your character sheet and make sure the "ESO Plus" buff is on you?

As for the skill points.. uhm... double check you didn't forget to put them in after a respec? If not.. I'd put in a ticket.

Callous2208

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

If you max out your Crafting, there's a passive skill in the skill lines that limits research times to no longer than 30 days.

This helps greatly with those last two traits on... pretty much everything. It's still a long time to wait, but it's better than 46 days.

Now if we could find a way to get Enchanting to advance as fast as the other Crafting skills...

Miszou wrote: »

Also, a subscription will further knock that down to just 27 days.

I subscribe and have max crafting in everything with points in it
Do you see why im confused

That...is both troubling and confusing. Perhaps just some type of UI error?

Miszou

Paulington wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

Research time is pretty much the only passive I put skill points in. You don't need any to improve an item, so you can just get white armor sets made cheap and then just improve them yourself. Funner to do it your self but you can save 30 skill points on your crafter this way.

Whilst you don't need any to improve items, they make it a lot cheaper. It takes twenty legendary materials to upgrade something without passives and only eight with the full passive.

Additionally, you are much more likely to get legendary materials from deconstructing, which further boosts your ability to craft stuff.

emily3989

Paulington wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

Research time is pretty much the only passive I put skill points in. You don't need any to improve an item, so you can just get white armor sets made cheap and then just improve them yourself. Funner to do it your self but you can save 30 skill points on your crafter this way.

Whilst you don't need any to improve items, they make it a lot cheaper. It takes twenty legendary materials to upgrade something without passives and only eight with the full passive.

Sorry, I put points into that one as well, 3 each I think. I was mostly referring to the first one that takes 10 points just to make white V16 gear.

ADarklore

Sometimes Add-ons will say one time, crafting station another... I've learned to ignore the timers... never had any ninth trait last longer than 30 days.

Ch4mpTW

46 days to research your 9th trait...? Hm... I think this math may or may not help you out:

6, 12, 24, 48, 96, 192, 384, 768 = 1,530 hours = 63.75 days per weapon or armor piece to completely research every trait.

Blacksmithing = 7+7 = 14. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 14 = 21,420 hours = 892.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(21,420 x 0.8) / 3 = 5,712 hrs / 24 = 238 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

Clothing = 7+7 = 14. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 14 = 21,420 hours = 892.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(21,420 x 0.8) / 3 = 5,712 hrs / 24 = 238 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

Woodworking = 5+1 = 6. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 6 = 9,180 hours = 382.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(9,180 x 0.8) / 3 = 2,448 hrs / 24 = 102 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

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Nestor

ADarklore wrote: »

Sometimes Add-ons will say one time, crafting station another... I've learned to ignore the timers... never had any ninth trait last longer than 30 days.

Yes, make sure your addons are updated.

And, what does the Crafting Station say for the time left?

SirAndy

Double check your skill points spent on those passives. A skill point reset would screw your research times ...

waterfairy

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

46 days to research your 9th trait...? Hm... I think this math may or may not help you out:

6, 12, 24, 48, 96, 192, 384, 768 = 1,530 hours = 63.75 days per weapon or armor piece to completely research every trait.

Blacksmithing = 7+7 = 14. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 14 = 21,420 hours = 892.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(21,420 x 0.8) / 3 = 5,712 hrs / 24 = 238 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

Clothing = 7+7 = 14. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 14 = 21,420 hours = 892.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(21,420 x 0.8) / 3 = 5,712 hrs / 24 = 238 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

Woodworking = 5+1 = 6. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 6 = 9,180 hours = 382.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(9,180 x 0.8) / 3 = 2,448 hrs / 24 = 102 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

source

892 Days???

Zenimax WTF are you thinking with those research times?

Nova Sky

Vigarr wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

46 days to research your 9th trait...? Hm... I think this math may or may not help you out:

6, 12, 24, 48, 96, 192, 384, 768 = 1,530 hours = 63.75 days per weapon or armor piece to completely research every trait.

Blacksmithing = 7+7 = 14. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 14 = 21,420 hours = 892.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(21,420 x 0.8) / 3 = 5,712 hrs / 24 = 238 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

Clothing = 7+7 = 14. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 14 = 21,420 hours = 892.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(21,420 x 0.8) / 3 = 5,712 hrs / 24 = 238 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

Woodworking = 5+1 = 6. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 6 = 9,180 hours = 382.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(9,180 x 0.8) / 3 = 2,448 hrs / 24 = 102 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

source

892 Days???

Zenimax WTF are you thinking with those research times?

I take it you've never played Eve?

Taleof2Cities

@LiquidSchwartz , can you screenshot the issue for us (both research timer and your woodworking skill points invested)?

This will make naysayers like me go away ... and possibly get a forum mod to speed up your ticket (you did submit an in-game ticket, right?).

LadyNalcarya

Vigarr wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

46 days to research your 9th trait...? Hm... I think this math may or may not help you out:

6, 12, 24, 48, 96, 192, 384, 768 = 1,530 hours = 63.75 days per weapon or armor piece to completely research every trait.

Blacksmithing = 7+7 = 14. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 14 = 21,420 hours = 892.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(21,420 x 0.8) / 3 = 5,712 hrs / 24 = 238 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

Clothing = 7+7 = 14. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 14 = 21,420 hours = 892.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(21,420 x 0.8) / 3 = 5,712 hrs / 24 = 238 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

Woodworking = 5+1 = 6. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 6 = 9,180 hours = 382.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(9,180 x 0.8) / 3 = 2,448 hrs / 24 = 102 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

source

892 Days???

Zenimax WTF are you thinking with those research times?

You can research 3 blacksmithing, 3 woodworking and 3 clothing items at the same time though. So its not 892 days.

LiquidSchwartz

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

@LiquidSchwartz , can you screenshot the issue for us (both research timer and your woodworking skill points invested)?

This will make naysayers like me go away ... and possibly get a forum mod to speed up your ticket (you did submit an in-game ticket, right?).

I can tomorrow evening but im p sure it was a ui glitch

hamgatan

Full points in the research times passive + ESO Plus will give you just over 26 days for the research time on the 9th trait.

DurzoBlint13

did you happen to respect lately and forget to put points back into the passives? Just a thought

starkerealm

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

46 days to research your 9th trait...? Hm... I think this math may or may not help you out:

6, 12, 24, 48, 96, 192, 384, 768 = 1,530 hours = 63.75 days per weapon or armor piece to completely research every trait.

Blacksmithing = 7+7 = 14. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 14 = 21,420 hours = 892.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(21,420 x 0.8) / 3 = 5,712 hrs / 24 = 238 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

Clothing = 7+7 = 14. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 14 = 21,420 hours = 892.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(21,420 x 0.8) / 3 = 5,712 hrs / 24 = 238 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

Woodworking = 5+1 = 6. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 6 = 9,180 hours = 382.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(9,180 x 0.8) / 3 = 2,448 hrs / 24 = 102 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

source

892 Days???

Zenimax WTF are you thinking with those research times?

You can research 3 blacksmithing, 3 woodworking and 3 clothing items at the same time though. So its not 892 days.

As a full 9 trait crafter, I can confirm it took way less than two and a half years to finish researching everything.

starkerealm

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

I logged out and back in now my times doubled on everything and my bow is at 46 days for nirnhoned
42d on my inferno for 9th

There's an issue with addons where, if you log in on another character and check your research times, you'll see the research time as it would appear for the character you're logged in on. I know this can create situations where non-crafting characters can see research timers above 30 days on a tier 4 researcher. I think it can also create negative research times when viewing characters with more points in the appropriate research perk. But, I'm less sure of the second case.

jzholloway

Nova Sky wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

46 days to research your 9th trait...? Hm... I think this math may or may not help you out:

6, 12, 24, 48, 96, 192, 384, 768 = 1,530 hours = 63.75 days per weapon or armor piece to completely research every trait.

Blacksmithing = 7+7 = 14. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 14 = 21,420 hours = 892.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(21,420 x 0.8) / 3 = 5,712 hrs / 24 = 238 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

Clothing = 7+7 = 14. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 14 = 21,420 hours = 892.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(21,420 x 0.8) / 3 = 5,712 hrs / 24 = 238 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

Woodworking = 5+1 = 6. sets of 8 traits to research
1,530 x 6 = 9,180 hours = 382.5 days. with no skill points invested in research time reduction.
(9,180 x 0.8) / 3 = 2,448 hrs / 24 = 102 days. to research every trait for every weapon and armor piece in this craft.

source

892 Days???

Zenimax WTF are you thinking with those research times?

I take it you've never played Eve?

THIS ^^^

LiquidSchwartz

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

did you happen to respect lately and forget to put points back into the passives? Just a thought

No but it was just a ui glitch it fixed itself after i hard reset my system

Back down to 25 days and 21 (: