Stamina meteor?

Teridaxus

Since all those magicka users tell us we should make a thread for stamina morph meteor, i will open one

lathbury

Neither, just change all ultis to scale whatever the highest is ( Mighty/elemental expert , stam/magicka, weapon/spell damage and so on )

this way opens up more build options

EsoRecon

Neither, just change all ultis to scale whatever the highest is ( Mighty/elemental expert , stam/magicka, weapon/spell damage and so on )

With this everyone is happy.

The_Saint

No

Its ok for me that dawnbreaker switch completes to stamina and i like the changes of fighters guild...
Now 3,5/5 incl. Ulti are really nice and usefull...
With trapping webs there are much new damage skills to use...

Mageguild needs just a few changes imo. Just meteor and inner light are really usefull. The rune could get a buff... Entropie is ok for playing without pots. Equilibrium is dead since changes a long time ago, and nobody use it after the caps leave the game

Fallen_Ray

No

Let's see... the name of the skill line whose this Meteor/Shooting Star/Ice Comet belongs to is Mages Guild. The name itself says it all, a guild for mages, magicka users. Why in reality's name stamina (physical) based scaling should take place in this skill line?

Might as well make shield & sword, dual weilds, bows & 2H weapon skills have magicka scaling too.

GreenSoup2HoT

No

I say no because i'd rather not see every player using Meteor. The change to make Dawnbreaker a stamina based Ulitmate was a good one. We now have Fighters guild for stamina and Mages Guild for magicka. I'd like to keep it that way.

DurzoBlint13

they are already making both of the Dawnbreaker morphs into stam friendly ults. No need to take meteor away too. IMO this is the way it should have been from the start- Fighter's Guild for stam and Mage's Guild for magic.

GeorgeBlack

I might go fishing next weekend.
Nice way of making a point with this Poll.

Dalsinthus

No

No - the mage's guild should be for magic builds. I say this as someone that mains a stamina character, although I also have a magic sorc.

I do think there needs to be more stamina morphs for ultimates. The Dawnbreaker and Incapacitating Strike are a good start along with Dragon Leap, but that is a pretty limited list overall. Stamina still needs more skill options in the class skills, including ultimates.

But the mage's guild should belong to the magic classes in my opinion. Same goes for the fighter's guild and stamina.

Asmael

Neither, just change all ultis to scale whatever the highest is ( Mighty/elemental expert , stam/magicka, weapon/spell damage and so on )

Options. Nuff said.

WillhelmBlack

No

Make ultimate scale off health, it would be an interesting playstyle and a boost for tanks.

GeorgeBlack

Ulty of health. Nice. Progressive. Let's work on it

Strider_Roshin

No

Meteor is for magicka, and Dawnbreaker is for stamina.

makeyurself

Neither, just change all ultis to scale whatever the highest is ( Mighty/elemental expert , stam/magicka, weapon/spell damage and so on )

I thought ultimates scaled off highest resource? I'm confused.

susmitds

No

makeyurself wrote: »

I thought ultimates scaled off highest resource? I'm confused.

It did. Except for the damage type. Which won't ever be possible IMO.

cyclonus11

Yes

Yes. It takes a lot of Stamina to UUUURRRGHPH throw some Meteors at someone, so yes a Stamina build makes sense.

Suru

No

After the fighters guild ulti went only physical, asking for a stamina meteor is lol

makeyurself wrote: »

I thought ultimates scaled off highest resource? I'm confused.

An ulti's damage scales off magika or stamina, but the Type of damage does not. If I am a stamina user like the OP is arguing, then the meteor will do physical damage, but as it is now, they deal fire/ice damage.

lassitershawn

Neither, just change all ultis to scale whatever the highest is ( Mighty/elemental expert , stam/magicka, weapon/spell damage and so on )

Ideally all ultis would be usable for all builds. But I'd give stamina a meteor morph of their choice for a dawnbreaker morph.

Lenikus

No

As much as I believe in Zeni's ideal of 'play however you want', there's still the boundaries of Logic and plain common sense.
I can uderstand a Killer's Blade doing disease dmg, i can understand a light spear thing doing physical damage, but if you want a fully physical build to be able to summon a meteor.... just no.

lassitershawn

Neither, just change all ultis to scale whatever the highest is ( Mighty/elemental expert , stam/magicka, weapon/spell damage and so on )

Lenikus wrote: »

As much as I believe in Zeni's ideal of 'play however you want', there's still the boundaries of Logic and plain common sense.
I can uderstand a Killer's Blade doing disease dmg, i can understand a light spear thing doing physical damage, but if you want a fully physical build to be able to summon a meteor.... just no.

Well... stamina builds can summon meteors already, they just aren't as powerful as those summoned by magicka. And I would argue that flattening someone with a giant rock could count as physical damage.

Lenikus

No

lassitershawn wrote: »

Well... stamina builds can summon meteors already, they just aren't as powerful as those summoned by magicka. And I would argue that flattening someone with a giant rock could count as physical damage.

Get a rock that came from outer space to not be bursting into flames, or to not be a comet that is mostly ice, without obvious magic, and we can talk ;P

lassitershawn

Neither, just change all ultis to scale whatever the highest is ( Mighty/elemental expert , stam/magicka, weapon/spell damage and so on )

Lenikus wrote: »

lassitershawn wrote: »

Well... stamina builds can summon meteors already, they just aren't as powerful as those summoned by magicka. And I would argue that flattening someone with a giant rock could count as physical damage.

Get a rock that came from outer space to not be bursting into flames, or to not be a comet that is mostly ice, without obvious magic, and we can talk ;P

Fair enough, but if we are going to be realistic about this, then dawnbreaker should still be magic damage because you are summoning a daedric artifact and causing a causing what appears to be a magical blast.

emily3989

No

Ultima ability from Mages Guild skill line using stamina,

Now there is ingenuity!!!

Father_X_Zombie

No

LOL i cant believe this is being debated

why all of the sudden are stamina builds wanting magicka stuff? ive seen threads for stam morphs for proxy, VD, overload, and Dawnbreaker (which is coming and im happy with!) and countless other examples, but meteor? this is going too far!

stam is getting tons of buffs when DB hits, be happy with them. Im even going to main a Stamplar from how much stam builds are going to dominate!

(ps: if we do get a stam meteor, i want a magicka morph of snipe, wrecking blow, whirlwind, and re verb bash, because thats about how much sense a stam meteor makes )

LorDrek

No

Fg is now stamina.

Nifty2g

Neither, just change all ultis to scale whatever the highest is ( Mighty/elemental expert , stam/magicka, weapon/spell damage and so on )

all ults should scale for more diversity

Arthg

No

Meteor is a mage thing. Mage, as in MAGicka.

Lenikus

No

lassitershawn wrote: »

Fair enough, but if we are going to be realistic about this, then dawnbreaker should still be magic damage because you are summoning a daedric artifact and causing a causing what appears to be a magical blast.

The dawnbreaker is an actual sword, really, it just materializes on ur hand briefly, but it's a real thing. And if you have divine strenght like the skill would imply, a shockwave is expected

KingWhyteboi

No

the change is welcomed fighter guild stam mage guild magic works for me

WalkingLegacy

Yes

After voting I realized I'd rather the damage or effects be scaled off our highest attribute such as stamina/magicka or weapon/spell damage.

That way morphs can be focused on tank/DPS or dps/healer etc.

Teridaxus

Neither, just change all ultis to scale whatever the highest is ( Mighty/elemental expert , stam/magicka, weapon/spell damage and so on )

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

LOL i cant believe this is being debated

why all of the sudden are stamina builds wanting magicka stuff? ive seen threads for stam morphs for proxy, VD, overload, and Dawnbreaker (which is coming and im happy with!) and countless other examples, but meteor? this is going too far!

stam is getting tons of buffs when DB hits, be happy with them. Im even going to main a Stamplar from how much stam builds are going to dominate!

(ps: if we do get a stam meteor, i want a magicka morph of snipe, wrecking blow, whirlwind, and re verb bash, because thats about how much sense a stam meteor makes )

@Father_X_Zombie
I don't care about meteor ( take flight ftw ), but since the magicka users ask for a magicka morph of dawnbreaker and many people say only after they add a stam meteor , i thought it would be appropriate to open this thread and see how people will vote.