Is gender bias a factor in Node Stealing?
Sheezabeast
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Farmers in Craglorn, when you've had someone take the node you killed a big mob of wasps or Welwas or whatever to harvest, have you ever wondered if it has to do with your character's gender? Men, do you get your nodes stolen as often as females? Females, do you feel like males take your nodes more often? Do you not notice the absconder's gender and just loathe them for being inconsiderate? Do you not care either way?
Edited by Sheezabeast on May 1, 2016 11:13PM Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!
Is gender bias a factor in Node Stealing? 22 votes
A) I'm female and I notice more males take the nodes I worked for
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1 vote
I'm female and don't notice a gender discrepancy, they equally grab nodes I worked for
27%
6 votes
C) I'm male, and I notice female characters take nodes I've worked for
9%
2 votes
D) I'm male, and I don't notice a gender discrepancy, they equally grab nodes I worked for
9%
2 votes
E) I don't wish to identify with a specific gender but I notice some degree of gender bias when harvesting
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1 vote
F) I'm that jerk taking the node I see you working for, I'm an oblivious dork who just takes whatever I want
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10 votes
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Nénlindë✭✭✭F) I'm that jerk taking the node I see you working for, I'm an oblivious dork who just takes whatever I wantSorry...Charmanderevery timenothing ever beats charmander1
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Epona222✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I am not sure what this thread is trying to prove, but have a feeling it is designed to be inflammatory.GM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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✭✭F) I'm that jerk taking the node I see you working for, I'm an oblivious dork who just takes whatever I wantI work hard to steal your nodes
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Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭A) I'm female and I notice more males take the nodes I worked forI am not sure what this thread is trying to prove, but have a feeling it is designed to be inflammatory.
How so? Men might feel like ladies feel entitled to take, with the ladies first attitude, ladies may feel like men take the nodes because they feel entitled to, there could be no common thread between any of it, I am just curious how it is on all sides.Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!0 -
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✭How do you know the gender of the player behind the toon? Is there an add-on for that?PC | EU1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭A) I'm female and I notice more males take the nodes I worked forFriedEggSandwich wrote: »How do you know the gender of the player behind the toon? Is there an add-on for that?
If you notice it says character gender not player genderGrand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!0 -
Epona222✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »I am not sure what this thread is trying to prove, but have a feeling it is designed to be inflammatory.
How so? Men might feel like ladies feel entitled to take, with the ladies first attitude, ladies may feel like men take the nodes because they feel entitled to, there could be no common thread between any of it, I am just curious how it is on all sides.
What the heck... just no, you're going down a rocky road. Also the equivalent term to 'men' is 'women', not 'ladies'. Ladies are women who have been knighted or something.GM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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✭✭✭...what?o.O
What on Earth makes you think the jerk going for that node gives a damn about your gender? They want that node, they don't want you... Heck I highly doubt they even glance at your char at all(not to mention char's gender=/=player's gender). Alternatively, how'd YOU know their gender?
Not sure why make such a poll but this seems somehow biased to me...4 -
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✭Sheezabeast wrote: »FriedEggSandwich wrote: »How do you know the gender of the player behind the toon? Is there an add-on for that?
If you notice it says character gender not player gender
You want to know if players choose to node steal based on character gender? Why?PC | EU1 -
Nénlindë✭✭✭F) I'm that jerk taking the node I see you working for, I'm an oblivious dork who just takes whatever I wantSheezabeast wrote: »I am not sure what this thread is trying to prove, but have a feeling it is designed to be inflammatory.
How so? Men might feel like ladies feel entitled to take, with the ladies first attitude, ladies may feel like men take the nodes because they feel entitled to, there could be no common thread between any of it, I am just curious how it is on all sides.
What the heck... just no, you're going down a rocky road. Also the equivalent term to 'men' is 'women', not 'ladies'. Ladies are women who have been knighted or something.
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Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭A) I'm female and I notice more males take the nodes I worked forFor the last time, this only applies to your characters gender not yours! I won't say this again or contribute to drama, this is an open ended discussion for people to compare playing as male or female and if they feel taken advantage or not by the opposite gender or if it is not a factor. There is no bias.
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pelennor_fields✭✭✭F) I'm that jerk taking the node I see you working for, I'm an oblivious dork who just takes whatever I wantBazinga!1
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Lenikus✭✭✭✭✭F) I'm that jerk taking the node I see you working for, I'm an oblivious dork who just takes whatever I wantEeyup.
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✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »For the last time, this only applies to your characters gender not yours! I won't say this again or contribute to drama, this is an open ended discussion for people to compare playing as male or female and if they feel taken advantage or not by the opposite gender or if it is not a factor. There is no bias.
...no offence, but why'd they care about your char gender? Can you seriously see a player be like "oooo a free node! Ohhhh wait this is a female toon! No I don't steal from female toons, I only steal nodes from male toons!" or vice versa?._.
Wait, you said it's mostly male toons stealing from your female toon in your experience. So..."ooo a free node! No, I can't just take it, can I? Oh nvm it's a female toon! Sure I can! ...wait, I'm on my female toon too. Shoot. Almost forgot I only steal nodes on my male one."0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I'm female and don't notice a gender discrepancy, they equally grab nodes I worked forThe only thing I notice about people who steal nodes is that they usually name their characters something stupid or edgy (or both).Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.1 -
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✭✭✭✭I have noticed a SLIGHT gender bias in that when I am playing a cute female character I note a slight increase on overtly friendly/gentlemanly acts on the part of some peeps.... tends to be male characters ... no idea what player gender is
OTOH there is also an increase in ..... jerky sexist insulting behavior by male characters who I suspect may be played by younger male persons (but I could be wrong about that). Part of what fuels my suspicion is when I have got a particularly dorky/sexist/insulting remark in chat, my husband has been known to sigh and comment that he was like that in early adolescence and he encourages me not to take it seriously. Which is good advice in general.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis2 -
pelennor_fields✭✭✭F) I'm that jerk taking the node I see you working for, I'm an oblivious dork who just takes whatever I wantTis a rare delight to harvest nirncrux and salty tears at the same time...
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✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »I am not sure what this thread is trying to prove, but have a feeling it is designed to be inflammatory.
How so? Men might feel like ladies feel entitled to take, with the ladies first attitude, ladies may feel like men take the nodes because they feel entitled to, there could be no common thread between any of it, I am just curious how it is on all sides.
What the heck... just no, you're going down a rocky road. Also the equivalent term to 'men' is 'women', not 'ladies'. Ladies are women who have been knighted or something.
chill
I am perfectly chilled, that doesn't stop me from thinking that this thread is bizarre GM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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Burning_Talons✭✭✭✭✭F) I'm that jerk taking the node I see you working for, I'm an oblivious dork who just takes whatever I wantNuh uh uh, Gotta be quicker than that!0
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✭✭✭✭✭A) I'm female and I notice more males take the nodes I worked forIts a fact that in gaming, sexism exists to some degree. There's nothing wrong with discussing this from all points of view. If this was biased I would not have considered it from both sides, or that there may be no correlation. I had hoped for a mature discussion. Guess I was wrong. Sociology is fascinating to me and I genuinely wanted to see all sides.Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!0 -
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