Issue with Evil Hunter and it's morphs.

Lenikus

I wanted to know about community* on this one.. i mean, they are removing damage from that skill, completely removing it from the game, and instead replacing it with a "Stamina Magelight", to say the least.
Just want to make this so you'll choose : Yay or nay for "fixed" (removed) camo hunter.

Lenikus

Nay, they could've simply remove the random proc on teh camouflaged morph, and that'd fix the 'double proc' already.

Voted and posted on my own thread 'cuz i wanted it to go back to the top of listings ;3

RAGUNAnoOne

Undisclosed unbiased opinion ; Explain...

nothing we say is going to change zenimaxs mind unless we say we like the change

Lenikus

Nay, they could've simply remove the random proc on teh camouflaged morph, and that'd fix the 'double proc' already.

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

nothing we say is going to change zenimaxs mind unless we say we like the change

That's actually true, but since they are bound to nerf poisons , which replaced the camo hunter, i'd think i leave this thread here so they'd see that the 'assassin' role in pvp is still one very popular, and if casuals get one-shot'd, they' can just go to teh non cp campaings that will pop in

Ra'Shtar

Undisclosed unbiased opinion ; Explain...

They might have nerfed this specific skill but they buffed so much more, stamina classes are way better net patch than they are right now.

Lenikus

Nay, they could've simply remove the random proc on teh camouflaged morph, and that'd fix the 'double proc' already.

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

They might have nerfed this specific skill but they buffed so much more, stamina classes are way better net patch than they are right now.

If you go that far, then the skill itself wasn't even nerfed, you call that a huge buff for vampires this patch.

Judas Helviaryn

Yay. Camo hunter was OP and needed to be removed, i don't think it was fair that i needed to invest into hp to not die.

Biased poll is biased.
RIP Camo Hunter, loved ye were not.

Lenikus

Nay, they could've simply remove the random proc on teh camouflaged morph, and that'd fix the 'double proc' already.

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Biased poll is biased.
RIP Camo Hunter, loved ye were not.

Heeey...
I had an un-biased option available !

Necrelios

Yay. Camo hunter was OP and needed to be removed, i don't think it was fair that i needed to invest into hp to not die.

Actually I was wishing we had a stamina version of radiant magelight, and now we do. It's like they read my mind sometimes, kinda spooky.

Lenikus

Nay, they could've simply remove the random proc on teh camouflaged morph, and that'd fix the 'double proc' already.

Necrelios wrote: »

Actually I was wishing we had a stamina version of radiant magelight, and now we do. It's like they read my mind sometimes, kinda spooky.

That's a valid point, but we don't get the empower, really... i'll still use radiant, tho', bigger radius and i don't wanna spend roll dodge resource if things go bad

phaneub17_ESO

Undisclosed unbiased opinion ; Explain...

I mainly use it for the slotted critical strike rating and while the bonus is great for openers at the start of fights with your own bonus damage, but not much else. Unless you're a nightblade who can jump back into stealth mid-combat, or have enough champion points filled out, Evil Hunter for longevity seemed to be the better morph overall. This change gives you a PvE morph with Evil Hunter and a useful PvP morph with Camouflaged Hunter while still having the slotted crit bonus.

UltimaJoe777

Pretty funny no one has caught the title error. Expert Hunter is the base form and Evil Hunter is a morph

Vaoh

Lenikus wrote: »

I wanted to know about community* on this one.. i mean, they are removing damage from that skill, completely removing it from the game, and instead replacing it with a "Stamina Magelight", to say the least.
Just want to make this so you'll choose : Yay or nay for "fixed" (removed) camo hunter.

Could you please post a few screenshots of the old skill vs. the new skill in your original post? Would be really nice to get the side by side comparison in this poll

Ra'Shtar

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Lenikus wrote: »

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

They might have nerfed this specific skill but they buffed so much more, stamina classes are way better net patch than they are right now.

If you go that far, then the skill itself wasn't even nerfed, you call that a huge buff for vampires this patch.

Balancing the game skill by skill without taking into account how it affects the whole game its what caused so much balance issues in the first place, you can't just tweak a skill and not think about the place the skill has in the game as a whole.

Lylith

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

Lenikus wrote: »

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

They might have nerfed this specific skill but they buffed so much more, stamina classes are way better net patch than they are right now.

If you go that far, then the skill itself wasn't even nerfed, you call that a huge buff for vampires this patch.

Balancing the game skill by skill without taking into account how it affects the whole game its what caused so much balance issues in the first place, you can't just tweak a skill and not think about the place the skill has in the game as a whole.

sadly, it seems you can.

i agree, though, it should never be done. skills don't exist in a vacuum.