Two years in now

Lynx7386

And still not even a glimpse of polearms or crossbows? And now spell crafting is out the window too.

Whatever you guys are doing with your time, it sure as hell isnt helping the game at all.

Sunburnt_Penguin

Yeah but we are getting "ongoing improvements to Cyrodil's performance" so, you know..

Dominoid

Spell crafting is not out the window. It's simply not on the 2016 docket.

UltimaJoe777

There's a fine line between what helps the game and what satisfies the player. As for Crossbows, Silver Bolt. Don't know why people don't accept that fact... I mean come on it is literally a crossbow attack, unless you morph it into the leash.

Lynx7386

Dominoid wrote: »

Spell crafting is not out the window. It's simply not on the 2016 docket.

Last I heard the developer in charge of the spellcrafting project was canned.

It seems like nothing is happening to this game, all the development work is going into crown store items. We cant get new features, we cant even get the bugs fixed, and so far every "expansion" or "dlc" has been vastly underwhelming, I cant help but expect nothing different from dark brotherhood.

It's always the same story, Zenimax tells us "great things are coming" and we get crap - but before we leave, they hook us in with another "great things are coming!"... the cycle repeats itself.

UltimaJoe777

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Dominoid wrote: »

Spell crafting is not out the window. It's simply not on the 2016 docket.

Last I heard the developer in charge of the spellcrafting project was canned.

It seems like nothing is happening to this game, all the development work is going into crown store items. We cant get new features, we cant even get the bugs fixed, and so far every "expansion" or "dlc" has been vastly underwhelming, I cant help but expect nothing different from dark brotherhood.

It's always the same story, Zenimax tells us "great things are coming" and we get crap - but before we leave, they hook us in with another "great things are coming!"... the cycle repeats itself.

"PAX-Roundtable-Thread wrote:

Q66: Jewellery and spell crafting, are there any plans to approach these in the future?

RL: That I can talk about? I can't talk about it. I love the idea of spellcrafting and jewellery crafting though we have to do it when it makes sense.

Bossdonut

In b4 no eta

susmitds

Come on, they did deliver poison crafting. Lets just not get too greedy and want it all in a hurry. This kind of mentality breaks games. Let them balance the current combat options first, before adding anything new.

C0wrex

susmitds wrote: »

Come on, they did deliver poison crafting. Lets just not get too greedy and want it all in a hurry. This kind of mentality breaks games. Let them balance the current combat options first, before adding anything new.

That and they did say that they are working on a player housing system. Spellcrafting is also being considered so it's a big plus!

And I agree with susmitds, we should be patient! )

Wifeaggro13

Dominoid wrote: »

Spell crafting is not out the window. It's simply not on the 2016 docket.

the developer in charge of it and many other features was simply fired so ya its out the window

C0wrex

Wifeaggro13 wrote: »

Dominoid wrote: »

Spell crafting is not out the window. It's simply not on the 2016 docket.

the developer in charge of it and many other features was simply fired so ya its out the window

Actually, the developers mentioned during PAX that they were considering spellmaking so I don't think that it is 'completely' out of the window.

They could be thinking on how it would affect the meta of the game. I mean, spellmaking in Oblivion and Morrowind were freaking amazing but if they don't find a way to keep it balanced in ESO, the system would break the entire game hahaha )

WldKarde

At least wait until the Natch Potes come out until crying doom and gloom.

Just because everything people want doesn't happen in 32 1/2 seconds doesn't mean that ZOS isn't working on it.

Good grief people... do you want a good game for years to come...


or just instant gratification that won't be as good as it could be with a little more time?


I'd rather wait, and give ZOS a chance to do it right.

Lynx7386

WldKarde wrote: »

At least wait until the Natch Potes come out until crying doom and gloom.

Just because everything people want doesn't happen in 32 1/2 seconds doesn't mean that ZOS isn't working on it.

Good grief people... do you want a good game for years to come...


or just instant gratification that won't be as good as it could be with a little more time?


I'd rather wait, and give ZOS a chance to do it right.

I've been waiting for about 4 years now for ZOS to do it right, and they havent. Following this game since before it even got into beta, back when it was on the bethesda forums.

I'm sorry but I've been disappointed at every turn with the way zenimax is handling this game. It had high potential, and none of that potential has been realized.

Gidorick

My most honest and sincere response to this @Lynx7386 is quite simply...

AlnilamE

Polearms or crossbows? What???

C0wrex

Adding a crossbow weapon skill line would be freaking sweet though.

Sausage

Zen said themselves its important to add more skills to the game but nothing after 2 year, thats why I think Expansion might be coming. The thing is more weapon skills theres, longer players are likely to play, at least I would play more if there was more weapon skills. Expansion is confirmed, come on, lvl50 and these skills forever? No way.

Nifty2g

Lynx7386 wrote: »

And still not even a glimpse of polearms or crossbows? And now spell crafting is out the window too.

Whatever you guys are doing with your time, it sure as hell isnt helping the game at all.

It's good that spell crafting is out, there is no way in hell you can ever balance spell crafting. Be glad.

We dont need crossbows or polearms id rather they fix the *** lag

Mettaricana

I'd rather have one dlc expansion a year that adds like 4-6 vet dungeons like 3 trials arena pvp modes new weapons and a few new zones with a long multi zone huge story and new main final boss new enchants raise cp caps by like 200 and then sell mounts throughout year to keep the lights on. Then spend the year balancing and feed back etc. Will working on next dlc

newtinmpls

Nifty2g wrote: »

It's good that spell crafting is out, there is no way in hell you can ever balance spell crafting.

Hmmmmm...

Saw you post and being a stubborn sort I immediately tried to think what could I "spellcraft" in the game that would not unbalance it?

Maybe it would all be cosmetic:

-minimal effects instead of standard looking stoff for "secret" casters?
-choice of colors for various magicks (and maybe for pets?)
-Some kind of "change XX instant to YYY DoT" sort of tradoff?
-

Rylana

WldKarde wrote: »

At least wait until the Natch Potes come out until crying doom and gloom.

Just because everything people want doesn't happen in 32 1/2 seconds doesn't mean that ZOS isn't working on it.

Good grief people... do you want a good game for years to come...


or just instant gratification that won't be as good as it could be with a little more time?


I'd rather wait, and give ZOS a chance to do it right.

Except a lot of these things we are talking about are 2 1/2 YEARS in the making. Hell even Dark Brotherhood was talked about in beta by the devs.

Did you know IC was SUPPOSED to be patch 1.4 in September 2014, and not after F2P almost a year later? yeah, its that kinda thing that makes us angry. it was there, ready to go, but held back for a moneygrab.

Bearded_Gorilla

ESO is only young still, it would be better to give them time before they add new features and weapons so at least it's done well and then there's no major bug fixing and rebalancing once their out causing more bad feelings in the community.

If i'm honest they need to balance ranged weapons mainly bows on par to melee before new features and weapons are added in.

TheShadowScout

Lynx7386 wrote: »

And still not even a glimpse of polearms or crossbows? And now spell crafting is out the window too.

Spellcrafting is sort of on indefinite hold the way I hear it... not out of the window, but not currently worked on, since they have other stuff to spend their time on. I'm okay with that, the concept sounded tricky enough to balance, so... and there -are- other things I wanna see way more then spellcrafting.
...
...like crossbows as alternate weapons for archers, or polearms as new skill line! And all the other Additional Weapon Skill Ideas as well...

UltimaJoe777

newtinmpls wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

It's good that spell crafting is out, there is no way in hell you can ever balance spell crafting.

Hmmmmm...

Saw you post and being a stubborn sort I immediately tried to think what could I "spellcraft" in the game that would not unbalance it?

Maybe it would all be cosmetic:

-minimal effects instead of standard looking stoff for "secret" casters?
-choice of colors for various magicks (and maybe for pets?)
-Some kind of "change XX instant to YYY DoT" sort of tradoff?
-

Or maybe spellcrafting could be for Staves like poisons are for Weapons?

Woeler

Yes, crossbows is going to save the game.
/s

C0wrex

I sure hope Spellcrafting isn't out of the window!!! :O Sounds like a pretty cool system to have (If they get it to work )

binho

How can they do spell crafting when the game is based on specific classes?!

Callous2208

Mmo spellcrafting-Deltia or Sypher or some other guy figures out what the best one is for my class. I google this info and make it. Now I have a new skill, and so does everyone else. Why is this so inticing to everyone? I get the feeling some of you think you're gonna get to relive your Morrowind glory days and craft some op combination that no one else is using. Not gonna happen. This is an mmo.

runagate

Datamined Spellcrafting:

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2xpn39/data_mining_spellcrafting_what_is_it_and_what_are/

Shadesofkin

I'm fairly happy with the stuff I've gotten 2 years in. I'm not thrilled by choices that have been made, and I am still awaiting the day they figure out how to give me Unarmed and the Racial Ultimates, but yeah...I'm ok with everything as a general rule.

If I have any complaints it's that I still see Normal Vault of Madness but no Veteran (and not that lazy Veteran like ICP And WGT where it's the identical storyline). I am concerned that our last 2 4-man dungeons are nearly a year old and used lazy design choices for the narrative (guys, just hire someone who does Dungeonmastering, he'll write the plots).

UltimaJoe777

runagate wrote: »

Datamined Spellcrafting:

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2xpn39/data_mining_spellcrafting_what_is_it_and_what_are/

Honestly looks more like someone's concept than a datamine.