Fight for only one alliance in cyrodiil

Nox31

You should only be able to fight for one alliance in cyrodiil and not make other characters for the opposing alliances once you have selected your side

dsalter

Yes

pure bias on my end cause i fight for the pact and only the pact

Xundiin

No

It used to be like this and for me as an altoholic that plays in multiple factions, it would push my non vet characters into vet campaigns because I wouldn't be able to join BWB. Or Use a server that doesn't have a high pop to PVE Cyrodiil and collect the various things like Sky Shards.

Eshelmen

My PVP guild won't stand for it. But it makes me laugh when I see EP players get MOPPED up by blues or yellows. Then they'll log off, then log on to their DC or AD toon and join in against us. Lol
But whatever. Do what you want. I'm here to enjoy the game for what it is, not hate the players who give excuses.

kevlarto_ESO

Yes

Yes this a three faction war pick a side and stick with it, can still play multiple factions there are other campaigns, just not all in the same campaign.

With things like they are now there is no faction pride, no campaign pride, part of the population imbalances are caused by people swapping to the "winning" faction, leaving the other factions low. I hate seeing people out there on their enemy faction toon then see them a few minutes later in friendly zone chat, collusion and faction swapping is as harmful for long term pvp health as the lag is.

One thing they have done is make personal gain greater than factional gain this is suppose to be a factional based war, personal gain should come with factional gains.

But it is to late to fix this and this what we are stuck with, my only hope for good three faction warfare done right will be Camelot Unchained, you will not have multiple toons in the same battle unless you buy another account.

Three faction warfare here is been made a joke, by this, I still pvp and still have fun despite this but it could be a lot better.

NewBlacksmurf

Yes

Yes for PvP but any character made for PvE alliances shouldn't matter so No there.

Destruent

No

As long as you cannot fight people in your own alliance (duels against friends/guildmates )you should be able to create characters in all 3 alliances.

actosh

Yes

Accounts should have been factionlocked from the start. Also the gw2 5guildsystem was a dumb idea.

MattT1988

No

I've got friends I like to game with in both Pact and Dominion. Most of my characters are Pact including my main, but I created a Dominion character so I can play with them. Nothing wrong with it. The only barrier that should be in place is my Dominion character shouldn't be on the same campaign as any of my Pact characters. Which would be fair enough, because spying and other dodgy scumbag behaviour.

actosh

Yes

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

Yes this a three faction war pick a side and stick with it, can still play multiple factions there are other campaigns, just not all in the same campaign.

With things like they are now there is no faction pride, no campaign pride, part of the population imbalances are caused by people swapping to the "winning" faction, leaving the other factions low. I hate seeing people out there on their enemy faction toon then see them a few minutes later in friendly zone chat, collusion and faction swapping is as harmful for long term pvp health as the lag is.

But it is to late to fix this and this what we are stuck with, my only hope for good three faction warfare done right will be Camelot Unchained, you will not have multiple toons in the same battle unless you buy another account.

Three faction warfare here is been made a joke, by this, I still pvp and still have fun despite this but it could be a lot better.

Since i loved daoc i thought about gettin camelot but.....i also like pve so i may end up with bless online ^^

Muizer

No

I used to play Red Baron 3D on-line. Everybody was free to pick either the Allied or German side and, allthough those belonging to a squadron might want to stick with that side, it was actually considered good behaviour to join the weaker side. If things got unbalanced due to people leaving, people would even change sides to even out the numbers. That's all because there were no perverse stimuli for people to switch to the winning side and people cared more about the whole experience than any personal character progression (which the game just didn't have. It was just about who was more skilled with the same tools).

That people don't do this in Cyrodiil, and are even tempted to switch from low number to high number factions is testimony to a failed reward system. That's what should be tackled IMHO.

kevlarto_ESO

Yes

actosh wrote: »

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

Yes this a three faction war pick a side and stick with it, can still play multiple factions there are other campaigns, just not all in the same campaign.

With things like they are now there is no faction pride, no campaign pride, part of the population imbalances are caused by people swapping to the "winning" faction, leaving the other factions low. I hate seeing people out there on their enemy faction toon then see them a few minutes later in friendly zone chat, collusion and faction swapping is as harmful for long term pvp health as the lag is.

But it is to late to fix this and this what we are stuck with, my only hope for good three faction warfare done right will be Camelot Unchained, you will not have multiple toons in the same battle unless you buy another account.

Three faction warfare here is been made a joke, by this, I still pvp and still have fun despite this but it could be a lot better.

Since i loved daoc i thought about gettin camelot but.....i also like pve so i may end up with bless online ^^

I enjoy pve as well, I thinking if Camelot works out it will be my pvp game and some other game will be my pve game, might just still be right here in ESO, I like this game a lot and hope they have some improvements in by the time CU launches, which is still a year out.

VDoom1

Yes

Yes I agree with this. It feels kinda strange to make one of the alliances you have a character in conquer the map. Then you just switch character and do the same but with a different alliance. Its kind of weird really. Plus you never get a sense of loyalty to any alliance. Since you just switch around. Its basically like your always a traitor to 2 alliances all the time, if you got characters in all 3 of them. Besides, this is a war. If any kind of realism is desired then you should not be able to just switch alliance in Cyrodiil all the time.

Also, am I the only one who wants to side with the Imperials? Kinda sucks a bit that as my main is an Imperial, why cant an Imperial fight along side fellow Imperials? I hate when I ride past an Imperial camp somewhere in Cyrodiil and they attack. Im like "Im one of you! Stop attacking me!".

Reevster

Easy fix, just limit one char per account to PvP /one campaign. 30 days of not being able to "switch" sides. Might help with the lag to, then again maybe not lol.

Or all chars on a account, once you lock in to a campaign none of your other chars in that account can fight for another faction.

Thornen

No

Voted no having alts keeps the game healthy, although I am all for a 1 hour campaign lock where you can't use a character from a different faction on a campaign you had just played on.

TequilaFire

Seems to be only one alliance in Cyrodiil lately anyway - AD.
Where is all of EP?

Silver_Strider

While I don't agree with placing a limit on what people can join PvP (there are skills, skyshards, achievements, etc. to consider) at the very least, you should not be able to have characters of different alliances in the same Campaign. I hate having someone on my team drop group only for them to reappear alongside the rival faction on another character.

I have a guild solely for EP members for PvP. Now, if you say you want to do some dueling with other guild members, I say fine, however, when I see you fighting alongside the enemy against us as we make a push for something, that is when you get the boot. I have to deal with boosters aiding their friends from rival factions to increase their leaderboard status, people that exploit bugs in the game and idiots that think it's a smart idea to live stream their PvP experience. The last thing I need are conflicts between guild members for working against the cause.

VDoom1

Yes

TequilaFire wrote: »

Seems to be only one alliance in Cyrodiil lately anyway - AD.
Where is all of EP?

Depends on where you are. In Trueflame EP has a large presence.

Bislobo

Yes

Agreed, in fact i would love to be able to choose a faction for all my characters. But any sort of faction change would do, even if it is only via crown store.
Here's my example:
I have two v16 characters in Dagerfall Covenant and i play 90% of the time with those characters. My first character and my favorite one is my v16 Templar but i made a terrible mistake by choosing Aldmery Dominion for that character. Right now all my guilds belong to DC, all my friends are DC players, i am even used to the zone chat of the Covenant! Two years passed by and i am already used to see the old DC players in chat. Every keep we capture there is a guy claiming "KFC now open at Brindle" all those things man... And it's a shame that i have my 1st character parked just becouse i made a mistake the day i installed the game. I can't even play with that character in cyrodiil becouse i feel that i am betraying the Covenant.

Svalinn

No

EVery single character is like a new person in the ESO world so every one fight and will keep fighting for his/her own alliance. even lore-wise would be a great mistake to lock a player, and not the characters, in one single alliance.

susmitds

Yes

Bislobo wrote: »

Agreed, in fact i would love to be able to choose a faction for all my characters. But any sort of faction change would do, even if it is only via crown store.
Here's my example:
I have two v16 characters in Dagerfall Covenant and i play 90% of the time with those characters. My first character and my favorite one is my v16 Templar but i made a terrible mistake by choosing Aldmery Dominion for that character. Right now all my guilds belong to DC, all my friends are DC players, i am even used to the zone chat of the Covenant! Two years passed by and i am already used to see the old DC players in chat. Every keep we capture there is a guy claiming "KFC now open at Brindle" all those things man... And it's a shame that i have my 1st character parked just becouse i made a mistake the day i installed the game. I can't even play with that character in cyrodiil becouse i feel that i am betraying the Covenant.

Pretty much the same as my story in Aldmeri Dominion. Made my first character for EP, mainly for the Skyrim and Morrowind love and found myself struggling with the character. However, after struggling with first few quests, decided to try out a different race. Not having the explorer's pack at that time, was forced to join AD. But in the end, I ended up loving the zone and the alliance in general. Now, all my 11 characters over PC and PS4 are all AD. However, sometimes, I am forced to create temporary toons in other alliances to duel some of my AD pals.

Bislobo

Yes

Svalinn wrote: »

EVery single character is like a new person in the ESO world so every one fight and will keep fighting for his/her own alliance. even lore-wise would be a great mistake to lock a player, and not the characters, in one single alliance.

So if every single character is like a person in Elder Scrolls, people at any giving time can change their minds. So here is my simple suggestion, don't know if it was suggested before... After the end of your Home campaign, you would be able to change your faction for like 10.000 AP. I would happily pay that or even more to change my Templar to DC.

Svalinn

No

Bislobo wrote: »

So if every single character is like a person in Elder Scrolls, people at any giving time can change their minds. So here is my simple suggestion, don't know if it was suggested before... After the end of your Home campaign, you would be able to change your faction for like 10.000 AP. I would happily pay that or even more to change my Templar to DC.

Yes agree with this BUT i'd give the choice after copmleting the Cadwell Gold achievement and not at the end of the first main one.

Lore-wise it would be wise since well.. when you complete cadwell gold it means you got to experience all the alliances and it's just "realistic" that you find out that one motives for fighting are better then others and such... expecially since you get to see first-hand the "bad part" of your own faction.

Now my only question is.. if you feel this way why did you pick "yes" as an answer for the poll? xD

TequilaFire

VDoom1 wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Seems to be only one alliance in Cyrodiil lately anyway - AD.
Where is all of EP?

Depends on where you are. In Trueflame EP has a large presence.

I am on PS4 NA no Trueflame, we have Thornblade usually but even it was all yellow this morning.

milkbox

No

I don't think honor is something you can enforce. I have vet characters in all factions, but I will only fight for EP.

I'm glad I got the chance to really experience other factions (and I don't mean Cadwell's ghost-town version). Zone chats in AD and DC have a different flavor, and I wouldn't want to be permanently locked away from 2/3 of the game's population. If a guild is running an AD or DC PvP night, they know I won't come. Otherwise, I like being able to be up for anything.

Shadeaux

On Xbox, it's no longer any fun to play EH, because there are simply too many people playing AD. Then, when you add in the number of times blue and yellow obviously team up, it's just not any fun.

Even if the number is even at a peak time, the sheer number of AD that play around the clock ensures they keep the map, scrolls, and associated bonus. It appears they can do this on most of the servers at once. So, not only is EH outnumbered, but they are weaker due to this.

I wonder what these people will do once there isn't any red to kill?

Personally, I think it started by people gravitating to the AD races and not wanting to pay extra for Imperial edition. This is the unintended side effect of that money-grab by Zenimax.

Serjustin19

No

What if your favorite campaign and only campaign you can go to. Is one sided faction. For example PS4 EU Scourge. It is all AD. What if I wanted to help out the hurting faction. So for example what if I grew bored form having everything? I now choose to fight for Daggerfall. To make Scourge more balance and Ebonheart are still doing good also.

Svalinn

No

Shadeaux wrote: »

On Xbox, it's no longer any fun to play EH

EH?

sekou_trayvond

No

Hmmmmm

Interesting thought, OP.

My "problem" with Alliance selection has to do with it being tied to what area of the map we decide to start a character in, which is weird. To me anyway.

I run an Altmer that is in EP. He has zero desire to shed blood for the Pact. It'd be really cool if he could go fight with the Dominion.

(I knew all the consequences of my character choices up front, of course. #RoleplayReasons)

AntMan100673

No

You should be able to play for all alliances. I can see there could be issues with people switching from the losing to winning side so maybe put an AP cost on switching alliances in the same campaign same as the AP cost for changing home campaign before it ends

Thevampirenight

No

Reason why they got rid of campaign restriction is because of the coding, and to help with the lag with cyrodill. It would be a stupid thing to make cyrodill one faction per account. Also it would really hurt them because many will leave the game if they did something that stupid. No thanks, I rather we being able to be in the same campaign with different characters, then for them to switch it back to the coded system that did nothing to stop spying and all that stuff because a lot of people have alt accounts or be restricted by account to be one faction. It helped with the problem sure but in real life wars spies and turncoats are real and basically part of any war really deal with it lol.