DK/NB jumping up to KEEP walls

MacCait

Serious question...

When Dragonknights and Nightblades leap or teleport up onto the walls of the Keep that is under siege... is this a glitch? or is this meant to be as part of Keep sieging tactics?

When I started playing in June, I don't think it was possible... but now it is a regular occurrence.

So Glitch or working as intended?

Jaronking

I know DK cab because of Dragon Leap but I only know NB can jump in behind a enemy not jump from the front door postern to the inner keep.If anyone know how to as a NB because I have not seen it on Xbox.Also OP I heard Werewolf's can also jump into keeps as well.

ostrapz

Ive only seen dk leap from outer wall to top of the keep. Ambushing in keep is really common though and i elieve its been like that for awhile. I doubt its intended they probably just dont know how to fix it. I personally dont mind it as a bug but it might be because imma nightblade

MacCait

So Dragonknights leaping onto the battlements from outside is actually a glitch?

Vaoh

I see it as a fun mechanic that makes seiges more interesting! There are other skills to infiltrate a keep you know...

One of my favorite things to do is to run solo and skim the side of a zerg. Attract them over to you 1 at a time, 3 at a time, etc. Kill them all. As soon as there are too many players chasing, you either:
1. Maneuver around rocks if there is a chance at getting lucky and killing them.
2. Run to a door in your keep and purposely enter/exit the door until a Nightblade teleports inside the keep after you. Then kill him alone and go after his friends afterward.

vortexman11

Anyone can leap onto a keep wall, just get propelling shield and become a werewolf.

MacCait

LOL so no one actually knows if this is an intentional mechanic, or a glitch?

I actually don't care which, just wanted to know

AriBoh

ZoS themselves don't know. One moment you get a green post saying its intended. Next patch they are adjusting keeps to try and stop it happening.

dodgehopper_ESO

It use to be a lot easier.

MacCait

AriBoh wrote: »

ZoS themselves don't know. One moment you get a green post saying its intended. Next patch they are adjusting keeps to try and stop it happening.

LOL gotta love that... not even the devs know. Its a mystery

Van_0S

Jaronking wrote: »

I know DK cab because of Dragon Leap but I only know NB can jump in behind a enemy not jump from the front door postern to the inner keep.If anyone know how to as a NB because I have not seen it on Xbox.Also OP I heard Werewolf's can also jump into keeps as well.

The 2 known glich
For DK watch Etaniel video
[link]https://youtu.be/oKvAIUs6tdA[/link]

For NB its when the target gets inside a door at that time a NB uses ambush then the NB gets ported inside the enemy keep with that enemy player.

leepalmer95

You can do it as a nb as well, theres a trick to it

Lotus/ambush.

I did have a funny moment when i played my nb where they was a group of 10~ people all above one of the inner keep postern walls, anyway i lotus up there with proxy + tether and vd and killed about 15 people. Went around ganking on the top of the wall and managed to stop the people at the top pouring oils when the wall fell Was an easy keep take.

mchermie

Its working as intended

Junipus

Can ambush in from the outer wall to the inner keep on certain keeps, namely the home keeps that aren't in the inner circle. Can DK leap the same, but also from the outer wall next to the shorter wall above the postern door.

Can also leap from the rocks just north of bleakers into the outpost if someone's standing there.
Can leap/ambush from the northern stairs at Aleswell farm into the keep if it has the extended corner.
Can also jump on horse into the north-east corner of Rayles if it has the extended corner.

Can leap/ambush on quite a few resource towers, most notably Chalman mine and Alessia lumber.

Talcyndl

AriBoh wrote: »

ZoS themselves don't know. One moment you get a green post saying its intended. Next patch they are adjusting keeps to try and stop it happening.

This.

At release, leaping up to walls was intended (or the Developers were REALLY clueless). DKs also could chain pull people off walls (and get pulled up when the chains was reflected).

This system was (not surprisingly) abused by cross faction players/guilds who assisted friends in taking keeps without sieging and getting past the scroll gates (which was also done via the guards).

ZOS has been changing skills, moving rocks and even eliminating gate wall guards ever since.

Master_Kas

Talcyndl wrote: »

AriBoh wrote: »

ZoS themselves don't know. One moment you get a green post saying its intended. Next patch they are adjusting keeps to try and stop it happening.

This.

At release, leaping up to walls was intended (or the Developers were REALLY clueless). DKs also could chain pull people off walls (and get pulled up when the chains was reflected).

This system was (not surprisingly) abused by cross faction players/guilds who assisted friends in taking keeps without sieging and getting past the scroll gates (which was also done via the guards).

ZOS has been changing skills, moving rocks and even eliminating gate wall guards ever since.

Ferocious leap working straight up from the ground to the outer walls Ahh nostalagia

MisterBastahrd

It's gonna be fun if they remove pathfinding from charge attacks... then EVERYONE gets to sneak inside a keep because they won't fix this obvious flaw

Talcyndl

Master_Kas wrote: »

Ferocious leap working straight up from the ground to the outer walls Ahh nostalagia

That change and the change to chains made keep battles SO much less interesting. Now it's siege and bow users.

DignifiedMouse

Why would it be a glitch? if the player can find a height to where either dragon leap or ambush is able to be used and get you into a keep is def more a mechanic than anything.

Eirella

DignifiedMouse wrote: »

Why would it be a glitch? if the player can find a height to where either dragon leap or ambush is able to be used and get you into a keep is def more a mechanic than anything.

^This. Don't see how this could be considered a glitch, especially dragon leaping on silly people standing right on the edge of keep walls.

Talcyndl

DignifiedMouse wrote: »

Why would it be a glitch? if the player can find a height to where either dragon leap or ambush is able to be used and get you into a keep is def more a mechanic than anything.

Although ZOS spent a bit of time removing various terrain features to prevent it. Granted, they did a half-@ssed job of it and seem to have now given up. But, for a while they clearly didn't want DK's leaping into keeps.

Baconlad

THEY DONT CARE ABOUT CHAINING OR JUMPING UP to a keep...they claimed so in one of the eso lives. They only did not agree with players jumping up to NPC guards to stealth flip keeps. It can still be done where you have an alt go into a keep to DL/ ambush but its not a big deal. It should be allowed imo

zuto40

nightblades can but they need reach 2, and only on certain keeps can they do it from my experiance as one