Patch BUG: Sword style changed!

MacCait

Logged on after the patch today and noticed two things wrong:

1. My Swords have changed. I created two veteran 16 Legendary swords (dual wield) in the new Outlaw style. They looked awesome. I log on today and they have changed to a standard style. Can this be fixed? Veteran 16 Legendary gear is very expensive to make. Kind of annoyed they do not look the way I crafted them.
2. I seem to have dropped over 2000 in max magicka somehow.

Can anyone else confirm these glitches/bugs?
I'm PS4 EU

nordickittyhawk

what is standard style. i assume breton.

UltimaJoe777

This screenshot is taken from the natch potes thread:

Nestor

MacCait wrote: »

2. I seem to have dropped over 2000 in max magicka somehow.

Can anyone else confirm these glitches/bugs?
I'm PS4 EU

Your Mundus Stones got reset by the patch, so reacquire it or them.

Abeille

If it went from this shape:



To this shape:



Then it is not a bug, but a "fix".

The Outlaw Swords had the wrong style applied to them before (one that we assume is the "Dark Brotherhood" style, that wasn't released yet).

I think they should have waited until the Dark Brotherhood style was released and then fixing it by making the existing high level Outlaw Swords convert to the Dark Brotherhood style (therefore not changing their appearance, just the style item that is recovered when they are deconned).

acw37162

Holy crap I haven't logged in since the patch.

I specifically waited till I found this motif to craft and gold out my swords because I wanted this specific style.

No offense to the new look but it pales in comparison.

This truly sucks now I'm stuck with two swords I don't want and dislike the style of with materials and tempers I can't get back because someone made a coding error.

Switch them back please.

I just submitted a customer service ticket.

I will be told no.

I will unsub and delete the game.

These swords for my character represent hours of play time farming the motif, hours of play time gathering materials and tempers to make them gold for a style I specifically wanted for my character.

The crafting a style system is hard enough to make a charchter look how you would like to have it arbitrarily changed because of an error on the developers part.

It's been nice ESO, I'm not golding out two more swords to get a style I actually want to look it.

This is ridiclious

MacCait

This sucks!

Veteran 16 gear is expensive. I cannot currently craft another set and get them to Legendary.

The swords I crafted as shown above in someone elses post where specifically chosen because they look awesome.

Now I'm stuck with these swords that I do not like?

How can this be fixed? Refund of materials?

MacCait

Nestor wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

2. I seem to have dropped over 2000 in max magicka somehow.

Can anyone else confirm these glitches/bugs?
I'm PS4 EU

Your Mundus Stones got reset by the patch, so reacquire it or them.

Thanks. At least that is one issue fixed

Moonshadow66

MacCait wrote: »

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How can this be fixed? Refund of materials?

I don't think they refund any materials, unfortunately.
I had (and still have !) an ongoing bug on every crafting station that switches the levels/ranks 1 or more UPwards, most of the time I'm crafting something. It's horrible when crafting for writs, and it was, months ago, when I was only crafting VR15 items instead of 16 at that time, and suddenly ran out of mats because I didn't notice soon enough the bug hit again and wasted 10x the amount of mats... The CS said they won't refund anything. The bug hasn't been fixed in over a year either.

MacCait

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

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How can this be fixed? Refund of materials?

I don't think they refund any materials, unfortunately.
I had (and still have !) an ongoing bug on every crafting station that switches the levels/ranks 1 or more UPwards, most of the time I'm crafting something. It's horrible when crafting for writs, and it was, months ago, when I was only crafting VR15 items instead of 16 at that time, and suddenly ran out of mats because I didn't notice soon enough the bug hit again and wasted 10x the amount of mats... The CS said they won't refund anything. The bug hasn't been fixed in over a year either.

I wonder if they would be open to switching them to a style of our choosing? If thats even possible...

Silver_Strider

I crafted a few outlaw swords for people and got so much hate mail as a result, stating that I crafted the wrong item and that they wanted a refund. I proceeded to show them that it was in fact the outlaw swords style via video stream and they continued to b**** at me like it was my fault. I lost so much business because of that.

I need pain and suffering compensation please lol.

Joking aside, I do feel it's a bit unfair of them the change the style after so many people crafted the swords, even as a bug fix. They should have just changed the coding between the 2 styles and used the "fixed" style for the undetermined style and the bugged style for outlaw.

Moonshadow66

MacCait wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

MacCait wrote: »

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How can this be fixed? Refund of materials?

I don't think they refund any materials, unfortunately.
I had (and still have !) an ongoing bug on every crafting station that switches the levels/ranks 1 or more UPwards, most of the time I'm crafting something. It's horrible when crafting for writs, and it was, months ago, when I was only crafting VR15 items instead of 16 at that time, and suddenly ran out of mats because I didn't notice soon enough the bug hit again and wasted 10x the amount of mats... The CS said they won't refund anything. The bug hasn't been fixed in over a year either.

I wonder if they would be open to switching them to a style of our choosing? If thats even possible...

I think it should be possible, if not a style of your choosing, then at least switch it back to the way it was, no matter if it's DB style or any other. And I really hope for you guys that they will do that.

Pomaikai

The swords appear to look the same as VD swords, which is Abah's Landing style. I totally agree that ZOS needs to do something about this that's fair to all the people who spent a lot of gold on Vr16 gold weapons that no longer look like what it was they paid for.

Not cool ZOS. Not cool.

Inarre

I remember when they fixed the motif someone said the same "omg i spent so much money now i have tg swords that aren't tg style" unfortunately no matter what someone will be unhappy.

Valrien

Pomaikai wrote: »

The swords appear to look the same as VD swords, which is Abah's Landing style. I totally agree that ZOS needs to do something about this that's fair to all the people who spent a lot of gold on Vr16 gold weapons that no longer look like what it was they paid for.

Not cool ZOS. Not cool.

Similar, but not the same.

MacCait

Inarre wrote: »

I remember when they fixed the motif someone said the same "omg i spent so much money now i have tg swords that aren't tg style" unfortunately no matter what someone will be unhappy.

Its not as simple as 'no matter what someone will be unhappy'... In game we can only go by what we see. When I got the motif for the swords, I and many others thought they looked cool. We did not know they were not Outlaw style... Why would we even suspect they would not be? It says Outlaw style! They look awesome! Lets craft them!

Now, because someone somewhere recognised they were not actually Outlaw but another style, they decided to fix them... BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW they were broken?

So now anyone who crafted these is now stuck with a style of sword previously not displaying in the game and a style no one chose!

I wouldnt mind so much if it was lower level gear, but Veteran 16 Legendary? That's quite an inconvenience!

It would be nice to get this resolved someway or another

acw37162

I am so salty about this and not because of the change because of what the change represents

Someone in Baltimore walked into an office and said we have a problem the wrong sword design made it in the Outlaw Motif.
A meeting was held and this was probably weeks ago if not months ago.
A plan was made to address the mistake.
At no point, that I can find and I have not exhaustively looked, were playes warned of the mistake.
I could not find a public service announcement sticky thread in the main or crafting forums saying don't do this if you want this style we are going to change them.
At no point did they just turn off that specific motif so players would not spend hours farming the motif, the materials, tempers, or pay someone to make them.
Nope, none of that.
Did they fix it immediately after thieves guild launched on PC, nope.
Did they fix or warn players immediately after thieves guild launched on console, nope.
A month plus on console and two months plus on PC they just drop in a little one line patch note.

If anyone in the meeting expressed any concern over players who spent time, effort, and energy to acquire the motif and craft the sword they were either out voted or ignored.

This simple small change represent a total lack of concern for the players and the time they spend trying to enjoy the game.

It represents s giant middle finger saying we just don't care if that's the look you wanted and you spent time, effort, and energy to craft or aquire it.

We just don't care, we made a mistake, we fixed how we thought best if you don't like it we don't care.

So unbelievably ***.

waterfairy

The bug here was that you got to use the Dark Brotherhood style early.

MacCait

Vigarr wrote: »

The bug here was that you got to use the Dark Brotherhood style early.

Yes that was the bug or mistake... but it wasn't OUR mistake!

I didn't even know the dark brotherhood style was in the game yet

WatchYourSixx

Thats not the dark brotherhood style... lol. It even has the outlaw symbol on it... C'mon guys, dont be THAT naive.

MacCait

WatchYourSixx wrote: »

Thats not the dark brotherhood style... lol. It even has the outlaw symbol on it... C'mon guys, dont be THAT naive.

What are you talking about? Who is being Naive?

Think you misunderstood. The new sword has a the Outlaw symbol on it - yes! ...But before Patch, it wasn't even in the game... the Sword was the other curved scimitar looking sword (above). So after Patch the curved sword became the the sword with the symbol on it that nobody in game had seen before.

khele23eb17_ESO

They fixed a bug. Swords had the wrong style before. It was quite obvious as they looked nothing like other outlaw weapons or even swords at lower tiers within the outlaw motif. Mistakenly ZOS gave the top tier of outlaw swords the dark brotherhood motif.

Mettaricana

I skipped crafting this style since I knew something was up most people told me to go f@$# myself when I said its the wrong style then pc got it patched. now on ps4 I got hate mail on ps4 blaming me for reporting it I don't report crap I don't care enough anymore. Does help to check forums once in your life for info. I feel bad for the ones that golded them out can only hope eso either adds a convert weapon style or a make up item refund.

MacCait

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

They fixed a bug. Swords had the wrong style before. It was quite obvious as they looked nothing like other outlaw weapons or even swords at lower tiers within the outlaw motif. Mistakenly ZOS gave the top tier of outlaw swords the dark brotherhood motif.

It was not quite obvious to anyone. What does an outlaw weapon look like then? How are people supposed to look at this and say, hey, that doesnt look like a real Outlaw weapon! No one knew what it looked like as it hadn't been out before. Its just a motif. A designer for the game can make any sword or item look how they choose. The Akaviri swords do not look like Katanna's, while the Soul Shriven do... why? Because the designer made it that way. So for many of us there was no way of knowing it was not intended as part of the Thieves Guild DLC Motif.

Mettaricana wrote: »

I skipped crafting this style since I knew something was up most people told me to go f@$# myself when I said its the wrong style then pc got it patched. now on ps4 I got hate mail on ps4 blaming me for reporting it I don't report crap I don't care enough anymore. Does help to check forums once in your life for info. I feel bad for the ones that golded them out can only hope eso either adds a convert weapon style or a make up item refund.

Thats a shame man. No one deserves hate mail!

However, please don't suggest that it helps to check the forums once in a while. Your suggestion doesn't work!! Majority of the population does NOT use the forums. And for those of us that do use the forums, who has time to read every single post? I have been on here regularly and I didn't see anything posted about the swords being the wrong style and that it would be fixed later.

There will be a lot of people who just assumed this was the Outlaw style, like it, crafted it... and now have a style of sword they did not choose. I guess no problem for lower tier, but for Veteran 16 Legendary... thats an issue right there!

Duiwel

If you frequent the forums you would have known just after TG hit that people and even ESO Fashion's website reported that the outlaw swords were not correct and that they displayed the DB style.

I wanted 2 swords of that style too but didn't craft them because I KNEW they were going to fix it and I would regret having wasted the mats.

Some of you guys gambled and lost mate, it happens

MacCait

Duiwel wrote: »

If you frequent the forums you would have known just after TG hit that people and even ESO Fashion's website reported that the outlaw swords were not correct and that they displayed the DB style.

I wanted 2 swords of that style too but didn't craft them because I KNEW they were going to fix it and I would regret having wasted the mats.

Some of you guys gambled and lost mate, it happens

Nope. I have been here faily frequently and didn't know. I guess it all depends on what you mean by frequent. I only get on here every day or two. There was no gamble involved

MacCait

Just wanted to say that ESO Customer support managed to sort this out for me and I have to say I remain impressed with their customer service. Although I lost the style of the swords due to the patch, having the resources back to remake something else or wait for the sword style to be released again in DB was a BIG help. Never seen customer support like this in any other game, which makes me love this one all the more

NateAssassin

ZOS took my hipflaps away on my Khajiit robes, and then gave them back when I didn't want them back. I wish they would refund me.

KaleidoscopeEyz

You're going to unsub and delete the game over the appearance of your swords? First world problems. By the way, nobody cares.

MacCait

KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »

You're going to unsub and delete the game over the appearance of your swords? First world problems. By the way, nobody cares.

Either you are baiting becuase you are bored, or you really dont know what you are talking about. If you are going to take the time to comment on a post perhaps you should read the post you are commenting on. The post was never about unsubbing or deleteing the game or crying about anything it was originally about what was thought to be a possible bug. Look just two posts up!!

Buffler

MacCait wrote: »

Just wanted to say that ESO Customer support managed to sort this out for me and I have to say I remain impressed with their customer service. Although I lost the style of the swords due to the patch, having the resources back to remake something else or wait for the sword style to be released again in DB was a BIG help. Never seen customer support like this in any other game, which makes me love this one all the more

They offered me the exact same, although I have since refused.