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Vma Sorc Question - Final Boss Fight

VizigothAlaric
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So after 1256 hours in the game i finally decide to start Vma with my mag sorc for the first time. After watched mechanics and spend 13hours, 2 stacks of soul gems and over 35k gold for fix my gear ( might be my bad i was slow when i begin first now i die rarely and now play much more faster thanks to zos ofc ) i am finally at the last boss of Vma.

Here is the question ( and yes ik some sorc players not even using single sigil ) ;

After boss spawns at the middle i am starting to damage it and after he spawns first healer i am taking the defense (or reflect) sigil so while hes doing medium skull attacks i can kill healer fast with overload and after that healer i can kill the guard and than i am droping his health under %70. After that hes teleporting upstairs so far so good right!

But after that , there is 2 wave of mobs guard and some blue pets my problem is ;
Now i have only %240 overload left and i can deal with first wave of mobs and guard after boss went upstairs. But I cant handle the second wave of mobs and guard. Even when i have 32k shield to protect me. Because at that point every single things on me and also guard starting to use his fire breath on me while those pets tryin to make me knock down. So according to the tactics i should kill healer and kill mobs guard and go upstairs. So what i am doing wrong at that point ? Should i use another sigil ? Or am i doing not enough damage at that point ? And i managed to go upstairs 2 or 3 times for destroy crystals i wonder if i can stay there as much as i want if i can dodge roll boss's skull attack and if i can use shield or lets say i need to destroy 2 of the crystals and go down relax and go up again ? Can someone explain to me what i am probally doing wrong ? Because i know after those hours i solved and managed to get in to the final boss fight and i wanna finish it maybe even farm later for vma weapons.

(I am using 2 kena divines and infused or engine guardian x2 infused julinos set all gold and torugs nirned staff)

Thank you
Vizi - PC EU
  • andryuhav
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    As far as I understand from what you said - your DPS is low, and here is why:

    Usual mechanics for an average DPS is - burn the boss till he teleports, ignore the healer, kill the crematorium guard, dps the boss till he teleports. Usually, the boss teleports away before the second guard is spawned. After that - kill the blue mob next to a glowing run and teleport yourself upstairs.

    So, when you are using a defense sigil, you should already have enough DPS for this, as the boss starts to burn himself.
    It takes practice. Tons of practice. But after the initial kill, you'll be able to do this with your eyes closed.

    My advice - take a look at youtube videos, there is a bunch.
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Hey,
    I wouldn't recommend to use any sigil before going upstairs. Otherwise I doubt you'll be able to survive long after destroying the crystals. But let's start with the beginning of the fight:
    I dps him untill he ports away from the middle. I follow him, bash him to interrupt to constant skull throwing and kill the healer. Then I kill the deadroth and damage the boss untill he ports upstairs. At this point you'll get a clannfear, a healer and if your dps was low another deadroth. I usually ignore the healer and just kill the clannfear on the glowing portal stone to be able to go upstairs.
    Upstairs you have to watch for three things while destroying the crystals. Move out of the meteors, block (or dodge) the big skulls and hide behind the moving stone wall when it's up. If you fall down before all crystals are destroyed, you'll get another healer and deadroth aswell as a clannfear that you have to kill on the glowing portal stone.
    After destroying the crystals it's imo a good time to collect sigils. Then I only damage the boss and make sure I collect all yellow ghosts before they reach the boss. When the next deadroth spawns I stun everything with the ghost explosion and just finish the boss.
  • darkstar2084
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    sigil of healing might be more useful as it will help you survive the first deaodroth and boss together, after the crystals platform defense one for when he does the barrage attack to bounce it back instead of interrupt, probably want to use overload here to dps with no ability to interrupt that attack except bash.
  • Haquor
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    1) burn boss hard
    2)when he ports take defensive sigil and kill healer
    3)kill guard
    4)burn boss to 70% (ignore healer)
    5)when boss goes up, pull glowing clannfear type mob to glowing platform and murder it and go up.
    6) Destroy crystals fast and get knocked down
    7) interrupt bosses crystal skull attack asap and take haste sigil and power sigil
    8)COLLECT ALL YELLOW GHOSTS
    9)use spectral explosion synergy and kill adds and focus boss
    10) take remaining sigil anmd COLLECT ALL YELLOW GHOSTS
    11) Use spectral exlosion and focus boss with overload/execute

    HOT TIPS
    -In that third phase after you kill crystals the ghosts are the key.
    -NOT getting knocked down off platform is key. I even use overload to melt the crystals so you dont have to face anymore adds down the bottom before you get ported up again.
    -ensure you use boundless storm to make sure you habe speed to zip around and get ghosts... or to stay behind the obsidian shield up top so you dont get knocked off
  • Valrien
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    Your DPS is low. Are you using dual swords of Torug's Pact? Dual swords increase Overload damage by a ton.

    Other than that you seem to have a good grasp. The healer is fairly useless to focus down. The guards you can either Overload or Force Pulse down. If you need a build take a look at Yolo Wizard on Tamrielf Foundry. It's the same as mine.
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  • VizigothAlaric
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    Thank you so much guys i was seeking these informations. @lolo_01b16_ESO @darkstar2084

    Yes i was excatly trying this tactic @Haquor but i was tryin to kill every single thing after boss port upstairs i know how to do it correctly now i ll try like this.

    @Valrien I was using duel wields but i droped after couple of attemps i was trying to figur out with trying different ways. But i ll use it again probally i might lost dps cuz of that.

    i ll practice more i think i get the some of the parts better now.
    Vizi - PC EU
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Sword bar is only for buffs and overload. Use staff for anything else on a sorc.
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  • Joy_Division
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    Vizigothxv wrote: »
    So after 1256 hours in the game i finally decide to start Vma with my mag sorc for the first time. After watched mechanics and spend 13hours, 2 stacks of soul gems and over 35k gold for fix my gear ( might be my bad i was slow when i begin first now i die rarely and now play much more faster thanks to zos ofc ) i am finally at the last boss of Vma.

    Here is the question ( and yes ik some sorc players not even using single sigil ) ;

    After boss spawns at the middle i am starting to damage it and after he spawns first healer i am taking the defense (or reflect) sigil so while hes doing medium skull attacks i can kill healer fast with overload and after that healer i can kill the guard and than i am droping his health under %70. After that hes teleporting upstairs so far so good right!

    But after that , there is 2 wave of mobs guard and some blue pets my problem is ;
    Now i have only %240 overload left and i can deal with first wave of mobs and guard after boss went upstairs. But I cant handle the second wave of mobs and guard. Even when i have 32k shield to protect me. Because at that point every single things on me and also guard starting to use his fire breath on me while those pets tryin to make me knock down. So according to the tactics i should kill healer and kill mobs guard and go upstairs. So what i am doing wrong at that point ? Should i use another sigil ? Or am i doing not enough damage at that point ? And i managed to go upstairs 2 or 3 times for destroy crystals i wonder if i can stay there as much as i want if i can dodge roll boss's skull attack and if i can use shield or lets say i need to destroy 2 of the crystals and go down relax and go up again ? Can someone explain to me what i am probally doing wrong ? Because i know after those hours i solved and managed to get in to the final boss fight and i wanna finish it maybe even farm later for vma weapons.

    (I am using 2 kena divines and infused or engine guardian x2 infused julinos set all gold and torugs nirned staff)

    Thank you
    • Save your soul gems. Rez at wayshrine.
    • Grab the power sigal as soon as the fight starts.
    • You dont have to kill the healer. I Rune Prison it.
    • Kill the first clannfear that spawns next to a glowing portal. That's all you have to do to get upstairs.
    • If the Second Daedroth spawns before you go upstairs, that is going to be a problem. This is all timed (why you grab the power sigal and do not waste time or ultimate killing the healer).
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Another point. Don't waste overload on vma. I kill the argonian with normal attacks and only use it on round 8 on the last boss as takes seconds to kill it. Ash titan don't bother just grab power sigil, LL down and weave and frag it down and grab the defensive sigil as soon as adds spawn at like 30% health. Then on the boss don't use it on the cram guard. Takes like 5s to burn them down and it'll be wasted if you wipe.

    On the crystals, always go right, LL on the first one and then go to the next, weave it down and repeat, on the 3rd wall phase you'll need boundless storm to keep up with it properly, and then overload any crystals down as the 4th wall is impossible to keep up with.

    Again only use overload on the lass boss once you've got the 3 ghosts, the zap the crem guard, grab power sigil and finish it off. If done properly you can do this with only having to kill the 1st summoner, the 2nd one can generally be ignored if you're quick.
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    1001CP
    8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
    Master Angler
    Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
    Tamriel Hero
    Grand Overlord
    Every Skyshard
    Down With BOP!
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