Should pvp rank be account wide?

xxslam48xxb14_ESO

Shouldn't it be account wide? Only issue I can see with this is it would allow your new characters to have a couple extra skill points, but I doubt that would cause any real problems anyways. I would really like to hear a good reason why rank shouldn't be shared.

OtarTheMad

other

It should be account wide but based on faction.

So all my AD characters would be one rank but my EP characters would be a different one.

Mojmir

other

No but ap should

TheRubiksCube

no

Let's say I got grand overlord on my Templar (which is something I plan on eventually getting), but then I decide I want to play something else like a nightblade. I'll be a walking target if I do so, and I know my nightblade is pretty squishy. I'll basically be giving the achievement away for free. I made my nightblade have very high damage, but low recovery. Whereas with my Templar I can handle multiple people being on me (decent/good recovery and sustain, but low/moderate damage), and I'm not rolling alone as one.

The funny thing is that my nightblade (captain grade 1) has a higher alliance rank than my Templar (first sergeant grade 2).

xxslam48xxb14_ESO

YES

TheRubiksCube wrote: »

Let's say I got grand overlord on my Templar (which is something I plan on eventually getting), but then I decide I want to play something else like a nightblade. I'll be a walking target if I do so, and I know my nightblade is pretty squishy. I'll basically be giving the achievement away for free. I made my nightblade have very high damage, but low recovery. Whereas with my Templar I can handle multiple people being on me (decent/good recovery and sustain, but low/moderate damage), and I'm not rolling alone as one.

The funny thing is that my nightblade (captain grade 1) has a higher alliance rank than my Templar (first sergeant grade 2).

Man who cares if it would make getting an achievement easier that doesn't even matter. You really going to lose sleep or something over someone getting an achievement off killing you? Eventually lots of people are going to have that rank anyways so its going to be easy regardless.

I would really like to have it on new characters because then it would be less of a grind to get the skill points associated with rank. Grinding is just really annoying to me and any way to reduce it is good id say.

TheRubiksCube

no

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

TheRubiksCube wrote: »

Let's say I got grand overlord on my Templar (which is something I plan on eventually getting), but then I decide I want to play something else like a nightblade. I'll be a walking target if I do so, and I know my nightblade is pretty squishy. I'll basically be giving the achievement away for free. I made my nightblade have very high damage, but low recovery. Whereas with my Templar I can handle multiple people being on me (decent/good recovery and sustain, but low/moderate damage), and I'm not rolling alone as one.

The funny thing is that my nightblade (captain grade 1) has a higher alliance rank than my Templar (first sergeant grade 2).

Man who cares if it would make getting an achievement easier that doesn't even matter. You really going to lose sleep or something over someone getting an achievement off killing you? Eventually lots of people are going to have that rank anyways so its going to be easy regardless.

I would really like to have it on new characters because then it would be less of a grind to get the skill points associated with rank. Grinding is just really annoying to me and any way to reduce it is good id say.

Really don't want this to turn into some long forum debate, but I do care enough not to give an achievement away so easily. Things should be earned and not made easier to get, and to me that challenge makes things more interesting. So that's why I'll disagree, and I agree not everyone is the same. You can go ahead and have the last word since it looks like we're going to have to agree to disagree on this.

NovaShadow

other

Yes, but faction only and only post-v1 so there's no instant advantages in non-vet.

AP should also be shareable, like stones/gold, it needs to be deposit able in the bank.

HoloYoitsu

other

I want to say acct wide, but I bet ZOS would mess up on coding that too and introduce more bugs.

Emma_Overload

YES

Yes, since AP rank is really an achievement by the player, not an achievement by the toon. And before anyone mentions it... YES, I think they should do the same thing for Undaunted.

incite

no

Ofc not , how unlogic to even suggest it

RoamingRiverElk

About the rank 50 achievement. Indeed it would NOT be fun to always get focused in PvP just because of the achievement hunters, no matter which character one played.

KenaPKK

no

This is the same logic as a kid receiving his army officer father's rank by association.

PvP rank shows commitment to a single character. Embrace that.

xxslam48xxb14_ESO

YES

KenaPKK wrote: »

This is the same logic as a kid receiving his army officer father's rank by association.

PvP rank shows commitment to a single character. Embrace that.

No, I really don't see the comparison with that. I mean this is a video game and you are trying to compare it to real life. It isn't any weirder then sharing cps between characters. All my new characters have tons of cp they didn't earn, yet there they are for some mystical reason.

KenaPKK

no

Returning to point out that this stupid suggested change is just another way carebears want to dumb down the game and make all the accomplishments easy to get. Let the hardcore PvP and PvE players keep some things worth working for. Good grief.

xxslam48xxb14_ESO

YES

KenaPKK wrote: »

Returning to point out that this stupid suggested change is just another way carebears want to dumb down the game and make all the accomplishments easy to get. Let the hardcore PvP and PvE players keep some things worth working for. Good grief.

WHAT?!! We would all have to still get the rank on at least one of our characters, what are you going on about? Wait are you being sarcastic? oh.......... my bad its kinda hard to tell on the internet lol.

KenaPKK

no

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

This is the same logic as a kid receiving his army officer father's rank by association.

PvP rank shows commitment to a single character. Embrace that.

No, I really don't see the comparison with that. I mean this is a video game and you are trying to compare it to real life. It isn't any weirder then sharing cps between characters. All my new characters have tons of cp they didn't earn, yet there they are for some mystical reason.

It's an mmo. Parts of it are structured to mimic real life. It's called immersion, and no matter how much we all joke about "omg you're breaking my immershunz," we wouldn't enjoy mmos without it. If you don't like that, then you're playing the wrong genre.

"Hey guys, let's develop a military war in our game, but let's not model it after real life war at all." -- said no video game dev ever.

CPs are account wide to reward the player for overall play experience. This was communicated as their purpose when they were implemented.

Alliance War rank is specific to the character in order to indicate each character's individual contributions to the Alliance War, just like individual members of the military. This was communicated as its purpose when the game launched. Hardcore PvPers are recognized for their ranks on their main characters, and for having multiple high ranked characters (which is really hard to accomplish and takes a lot of time and commitment).

newtinmpls

KenaPKK wrote: »

This is the same logic as a kid receiving his army officer father's rank by association.

.

Well, there are a lot of people who would go for that.

I'm not one of them.

xxslam48xxb14_ESO

YES

KenaPKK wrote: »

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

This is the same logic as a kid receiving his army officer father's rank by association.

PvP rank shows commitment to a single character. Embrace that.

No, I really don't see the comparison with that. I mean this is a video game and you are trying to compare it to real life. It isn't any weirder then sharing cps between characters. All my new characters have tons of cp they didn't earn, yet there they are for some mystical reason.

It's an mmo. Parts of it are structured to mimic real life. It's called immersion, and no matter how much we all joke about "omg you're breaking my immershunz," we wouldn't enjoy mmos without it. If you don't like that, then you're playing the wrong genre.

"Hey guys, let's develop a military war in our game, but let's not model it after real life war at all." -- said no video game dev ever.

CPs are account wide to reward the player for overall play experience. This was communicated as their purpose when they were implemented.

Alliance War rank is specific to the character in order to indicate each character's individual contributions to the Alliance War, just like individual members of the military. This was communicated as its purpose when the game launched. Hardcore PvPers are recognized for their ranks on their main characters, and for having multiple high ranked characters (which is really hard to accomplish and takes a lot of time and commitment).

Source? I mean saying that they "communicated" those purposes to us implies that some sort of evidence from the devs own mouths must exist somewhere right? I can't be expected to trust your word on that with no shown proof. Doesn't really matter either way though things can change if we ask for them and people with multiple high ranks can be compensated appropriately if it gets implemented.

More things shared between characters the better I say! Momentos got shared, mounts, pets, cps, and costumes(some of which require a lot of time to get too). Next they should share achievements, ranks, titles, and maybe even skill points(cause lets face it no one likes gathering all those stupid skyshards every time they make an alt).

Sugaroverdose

other

Only if undaunted also become account-wide

Derra

other

Titles should be character based.

All unlocks should be accountwide. Same goes for undaunted.

DisgracefulMind

other

Faction-wide on your account. So if I have a rank 26 DC and a rank 24 DC and a rank 23 DC, it should be combined to accumulate my proper ranking in DC. I think that puts it at, what? 35 or something, I forget the math when we added it all up awhile back. I think it'd be completely fair to allow that.

zZzleepyhead

no

I enjoyed entering Trueflame at PvP rank 13

VoiDGhOs7

other

Won't happen because they want players to grind everything.Starting from levels and ending with crap rng for gear.

ValarMorghulis1896

other

AP yes, rank no.

Lord_Hev

YES

After some re-consideration. I'd actually prefer faction wide rather then account wide. Faction wide makes the most logical sense, as your alts collectively demonstrate the effort you put into said alliance. So faction wide would be less grindy while still accurately showing where you put in the most work to show off.


Why are we not allowed to change votes on forum polls?

SlayerTheDragon

YES

You know how to pvp, or you don't. That is all that counts.

Xsorus

Honestly with how the system currently is I think faction wife is fine; if it was like daocs realm ability system id say no.. But since it's just skill points I don't see an issue

I'm also a huge believer in making Alts something you want to level; because when you make alt friendly games you keep people playing the game longer and not getting bored

Sallington

other

They should be "Alliance-wide".

I think they should be shared among your toons in the same alliance.

Lexxypwns

no

Before the changes to AP gains and the reduction in AP needed for alliance war skills, I'd have said yes. However, now, its just too easy to get AP and too easy to unlock your skills and passives

SneaK

Now that the skill line is easily accessible there is no reason for Alliance Ranks to be account wide.

Katahdin

YES

Should have picked "other"

AP should be bankable and shared among characters.

I am fine with ranks being per character