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So I've just watched this video for the first time, interestingly posted on a spell craft thread.

So apart from the obvious spell craft that hasn't come into play (apparently due to a lead developer leaving?), what about these:

- Justice system, being able to play as a guard?
- Murkmire a new PVE zone of the Argonians to the right of Cyrodiil?

Have there been any similar discussions since then?
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  • Omg_Pwned
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    They re-evalutated the justice system and didnt found a good way to implement yet.

    Murkmire will come as dlc later this year ... its not announced yet.
  • Katahdin
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    The second part of the justice system was cancelled because it would be too exploitable and they didn't want to do that to the game.
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  • x_t7ink_x
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    Is there anyway of seeing what the Dev's are working on in the future or is it all just announced as and when their nearly finished and its being released?
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  • Katahdin
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    What little they have told us are in the "road ahead" or "year ahead" posts. Google "Eso the year ahead 2016" to find it.
    Edited by Katahdin on April 8, 2016 2:22PM
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    What little they have told us are in the "road ahead" or "year ahead" posts.

    thought so thanks
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  • Amos
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    Wow did i misinterpret this thread hard lol

    I thought you were talking about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWM8nfhYeXE&nohtml5=False

    I was reading the post and was like... man wtf? this has nothing to do with quakecon lol... this one has much to learn it seems.
  • Madness1
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    x_t7ink_x wrote: »
    Is there anyway of seeing what the Dev's are working on in the future or is it all just announced as and when their nearly finished and its being released?

    For future stuff it's generally a good idea to watch ESO Live on Twitch, keep an eye on events such as Quakecon, E3, Pax, Gamescom, ect, and of course keep an eye on the forums.

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  • x_t7ink_x
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    Madness1 wrote: »
    x_t7ink_x wrote: »
    Is there anyway of seeing what the Dev's are working on in the future or is it all just announced as and when their nearly finished and its being released?

    For future stuff it's generally a good idea to watch ESO Live on Twitch, keep an eye on events such as Quakecon, E3, Pax, Gamescom, ect, and of course keep an eye on the forums.

    HERE IS A LINK TO THE TWITCH CHANNEL

    HERE IS A LINK TO THE NEWS ON THE FORUMS

    Yeah I know. Twitch is not really what I was asking as it's more about what they have done and hot fixes
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  • ItsGlaive
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    x_t7ink_x wrote: »
    So I've just watched this video for the first time, interestingly posted on a spell craft thread.

    So apart from the obvious spell craft that hasn't come into play (apparently due to a lead developer leaving?), what about these:

    - Justice system, being able to play as a guard?
    - Murkmire a new PVE zone of the Argonians to the right of Cyrodiil?

    Have there been any similar discussions since then?

    Still waiting on the second part of the 'new and improved' NPC animations - ie body language and the rest of the face.
    Allow cross-platform transfers and merges
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    The second part of the justice system was cancelled because it would be too exploitable and they didn't want to do that to the game.

    It wasn't too exploitable, there's just too PvE carebears people that would cry if they got killed by another player after they went on a murderous rampage of NPCs.
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    Sallington wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    The second part of the justice system was cancelled because it would be too exploitable and they didn't want to do that to the game.

    It wasn't too exploitable, there's just too PvE carebears people that would cry if they got killed by another player after they went on a murderous rampage of NPCs.

    It depends if you're trying to gain one of the achievements I.E get away from a guard or collect a certain amount in bounty - I think i'd be pretty tipsy if someone came along and killed me half way through
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  • Egonieser
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    x_t7ink_x wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    The second part of the justice system was cancelled because it would be too exploitable and they didn't want to do that to the game.

    It wasn't too exploitable, there's just too PvE carebears people that would cry if they got killed by another player after they went on a murderous rampage of NPCs.

    It depends if you're trying to gain one of the achievements I.E get away from a guard or collect a certain amount in bounty - I think i'd be pretty tipsy if someone came along and killed me half way through

    Then you don't deserve the achievement if you are not willing to deal with consequences.
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  • Sallington
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    x_t7ink_x wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    The second part of the justice system was cancelled because it would be too exploitable and they didn't want to do that to the game.

    It wasn't too exploitable, there's just too PvE carebears people that would cry if they got killed by another player after they went on a murderous rampage of NPCs.

    It depends if you're trying to gain one of the achievements I.E get away from a guard or collect a certain amount in bounty - I think i'd be pretty tipsy if someone came along and killed me half way through

    That's just the thing though. People are actively trying to avoid interaction with other players, in an MMO. Which is why ESO is feeling (and being further developed) like a single player RPG with some grouping elements.

    If you wanted to go after achievements for being a thief/murderer, you should be prepared to face people trying to uphold the law. That's the kind of system that would have added so much depth and amazing gameplay.
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    Sallington wrote: »
    x_t7ink_x wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    The second part of the justice system was cancelled because it would be too exploitable and they didn't want to do that to the game.

    It wasn't too exploitable, there's just too PvE carebears people that would cry if they got killed by another player after they went on a murderous rampage of NPCs.

    It depends if you're trying to gain one of the achievements I.E get away from a guard or collect a certain amount in bounty - I think i'd be pretty tipsy if someone came along and killed me half way through

    That's just the thing though. People are actively trying to avoid interaction with other players, in an MMO. Which is why ESO is feeling (and being further developed) like a single player RPG with some grouping elements.

    If you wanted to go after achievements for being a thief/murderer, you should be prepared to face people trying to uphold the law. That's the kind of system that would have added so much depth and amazing gameplay.

    I'd love to steal an apple with my NB, wait for a player guard to come then proceed to rek his face. Such a shame they abandoned PvP side of justice system.
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    They have stated all future PVP will happen in cyrodill only. PVE areas will remain PVE areas. I really cant blame them while the majority might enjoy the role play aspect of a guard/thief relationship a few will use it to grief everyone else. There is just no way to do it without problems. I cannot blame them at all for getting rid of it. You want pvp with your pve there is always IC. The person doesnt need to steal anything either for you to kill them.
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    Sallington wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    The second part of the justice system was cancelled because it would be too exploitable and they didn't want to do that to the game.

    It wasn't too exploitable, there's just too PvE carebears people that would cry if they got killed by another player after they went on a murderous rampage of NPCs.

    Having the thieves den entrances camped by 20+ v16 enforcers 24/7 to catch anyone with a bounty would be very exploitable. You know that's what would happen. Players would be forced to log off if they had any kind of bounty whatsoever. If that happens enough, they might decide that it isn't worth playing at all.
    Edited by Katahdin on April 8, 2016 4:48PM
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    The second part of the justice system was cancelled because it would be too exploitable and they didn't want to do that to the game.

    It wasn't too exploitable, there's just too PvE carebears people that would cry if they got killed by another player after they went on a murderous rampage of NPCs.

    Having the thieves den entrances camped by 20+ v16 enforcers 24/7 to catch anyone with a bounty would be very exploitable. You know that's what would happen. Players would be forced to log off if they had any kind of bounty whatsoever. If that happens enough, they might decide that it isn't worth playing at all.

    Agreed. I know I would be pretty salty if I successfully escaped a guard only to find a zerg of guards waiting for me around the corner. The justice system PvP sounds good on paper but in reality it would be a disaster and I am glad they decided to not implement it.
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    The second part of the justice system was cancelled because it would be too exploitable and they didn't want to do that to the game.

    It wasn't too exploitable, there's just too PvE carebears people that would cry if they got killed by another player after they went on a murderous rampage of NPCs.

    Having the thieves den entrances camped by 20+ v16 enforcers 24/7 to catch anyone with a bounty would be very exploitable. You know that's what would happen. Players would be forced to log off if they had any kind of bounty whatsoever. If that happens enough, they might decide that it isn't worth playing at all.

    I guess no one has any confidence in ZOS that they'd be able to think around that very obvious problem.

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