Dear ZOS, the next time you DO design a Light Robe...

MornaBaine

Please make it like this:


Sleeves like those on the Orc:



And THIS neckline, used on the Bosmer Medium:


A fabric pattern and sheen comparable to upper tier Khajiit and Orc please!




So many of the "cloth" robes have really weird textures, in whole or in part, that do NOT take the dyes well and vividly. You can get no sheen and often the fabric itself looks like burlap and has a "dirty" under texture to it that shows through, especially with the lighter colored dyes. I would FAR prefer fabrics that look like silks or brocades as shown here but used THROUGHOUT the robe, not just in a few areas. The blue areas of the sleeve on the Orc robe are ideal.

And BONUS if you'd do some with THESE necklines but NO accompanying weird giant neck gear!








Oh...and NO hip, front or butt flaps. DEATH TO THE FLAPS! [snip]

Please, please, please consider these things on your next round of light robe design! Thank you!

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Serjustin19

MornaBaine wrote: »

Please make it like this:


Sleeves like those on the Orc:



And THIS neckline, used on the Bosmer Medium:


A fabric pattern and sheen comparable to upper tier Khajiit and Orc please!




So many of the "cloth" robes have really weird textures, in whole or in part, that do NOT take the dyes well and vividly. You can get no sheen and often the fabric itself looks like burlap and has a "dirty" under texture to it that shows through, especially with the lighter colored dyes. I would FAR prefer fabrics that look like silks or brocades as shown here but used THROUGHOUT the robe, not just in a few areas. The blue areas of the sleeve on the Orc robe are ideal.

And BONUS if you'd do some with THESE necklines but NO accompanying weird giant neck gear!









Please, please, please consider these things on your next round of light robe design! Thank you!

I agree with you. 100%. Good post.

MornaBaine

Oh...and NO hip, front or butt flaps. DEATH TO THE FLAPS! Please fire whoever is so desperately obsessed with those stupid things and get them the help they need.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

And stop putting hip flaps on ROBES!

rfennell_ESO

I'm for more boobs showing in female armor!

I don't even care if the person playing it is a guy.

Vote more boobs 2016! #make eso bustier.

AshTal

I agree with the death to flaps.
Also no more stupid shoulders.

Morimizo

Agree about the quality of the fabric, but also that they desperately need to fix their on-purpose, lazy 'boxification' of the new female sets.

RAGUNAnoOne

MornaBaine wrote: »

Oh...and NO hip, front or butt flaps. DEATH TO THE FLAPS! Please fire whoever is so desperately obsessed with those stupid things and get them the help they need.

THIS

Moonscythe

MornaBaine wrote: »

Oh...and NO hip, front or butt flaps. DEATH TO THE FLAPS! Please fire whoever is so desperately obsessed with those stupid things and get them the help they need.

Especially when the front/back flaps are under the jerkin as in Altmer light and continually clip in and out. Don't put pieces/parts where they must inevitably clip something else. I won't give my Altmer dual wielding NB axes, even though I like the axes, because they clip through her arms! It's as distracting as watching the plate armor move like cloth as the character breathes. Honestly, flexible plate? Really?

TheShadowScout

MornaBaine wrote: »

Oh...and NO hip, front or butt flaps. DEATH TO THE FLAPS! Please fire whoever is so desperately obsessed with those stupid things and get them the help they need.

I think such flaps make sense on ARMOR. Heavy armor, sure. Medium armor, yes. Perhaps even light armore jerkins...

But they make little sense on ROBES in my opinion... Every time I see some robe with hip/front/rear flaps I wince a little... and wish they would adjust those.

MornaBaine

Morimizo wrote: »

Agree about the quality of the fabric, but also that they desperately need to fix their on-purpose, lazy 'boxification' of the new female sets.

Well fortunately I think they are on that. The thread covering it is over 15 pages long now.

Ajaxduo

Flaps really need a toggle...

MornaBaine

TheShadowScout wrote: »

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MornaBaine wrote: »

Oh...and NO hip, front or butt flaps. DEATH TO THE FLAPS! Please fire whoever is so desperately obsessed with those stupid things and get them the help they need.

I think such flaps make sense on ARMOR. Heavy armor, sure. Medium armor, yes. Perhaps even light armore jerkins...

But they make little sense on ROBES in my opinion... Every time I see some robe with hip/front/rear flaps I wince a little... and wish they would adjust those.

This is my way of giving you more than one "agree!" I'm not at all sure why they decided to go the route they have on light robes. Virtually every one EXCEPT the khajiit ALSO looks as if they have additional leather and/or metal armoring to them. Now I think that look is cool in some cases but I also feel they really went overboard with it. And even teh khajiit have the stupid "armored" hip flaps once you get to a certain level with them. The one right about where the "fabric" actually starts looking really nice I think. Bleah! And why do the Altmer robes look like badly cured leather stitched together by hand with upholstery thread by a third grader???

Morimizo

MornaBaine wrote: »

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Morimizo wrote: »

Agree about the quality of the fabric, but also that they desperately need to fix their on-purpose, lazy 'boxification' of the new female sets.

Well fortunately I think they are on that. The thread covering it is over 15 pages long now.

I hope you're right....would be nice to log in and find the Trinimac robe actually looks like it fits, without the masochistic, ratcheted to rib-breaking under-corset squeezing her entire torso to 1/3 normal size.

Seriously, where am I supposed to put all my mead? Or my pie for that matter? I can't even show my face in Windhelm, for Talos' sake.

Thevampirenight

Yeah they do need to stop using the flaps on robes. As well as other armor peices, if they wanted to they could make them part of the belt which would make the most sense to me.
Also they need to use male model for male model, female model for female model. No more cutting corners they need to use both models period.
Optional toggle for shoulders as well would be good.
Vampires need to have fangs.

magnusthorek

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I'm for more boobs showing in female armor!

I don't even care if the person playing it is a guy.

Vote more boobs 2016! #make eso bustier.

THIS!

Nifty2g

You don't ask for too much `

helediron

I found an interesting combination for flap haters: Malacath medium seem to have the flaps in trousers. So, combining Malacath medium chest with light trousers does not have front/back flaps and only small side flaps.

full medium - full light with jerkin - medium chest with light trousers - same from rear - full size pictures

I personally like the flaps in armors. But at the same time i welcome variety.

ArchMikem

All well and good, but what we REALLY need is a Robe that isn't a dress.



I miss the Arch Mage Robes so INCREDIBLY much.

MornaBaine

ArchMikem wrote: »

All well and good, but what we REALLY need is a Robe that isn't a dress.



I miss the Arch Mage Robes so INCREDIBLY much.

I don't care for the big old shoulder/collar thingies but otherwise? These would be awesome to have!

helediron

helediron wrote: »

I found an interesting combination for flap haters: Malacath medium seem to have the flaps in trousers. So, combining Malacath medium chest with light trousers does not have front/back flaps and only small side flaps
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I personally like the flaps in armors. But at the same time i welcome variety.

Sometimes mad ideas come to mind. There must be flap lovers tasset appreciators out there, and for them i offer this: double flaps! Twice the better!

Notice how nicely the flaps clip to each oher. Medium malacath trousers with some flappy chest, Ebonheart heavy in this example. Other gear this&that. Sorry OP digressing again...

About the neckline and neck gear, a suggestion to ZOS: Soul Shriven, Malacath and Trinimac (just forget the jingle bells) have a neck gear shoulders. E.g. malacath actually duplicates it in medium chest. For some new set, leave that part out from chest piece, and make matching neck gear shoulders. Then we can mix&match. Here is a bad simulation.
Current Malacath medium (notice the "raincover" part around neck):

Current light shoulders - nearly identical to medium raincover part but without "medallion" and fur covers shoulders:

modified medium (slapped in rawhide bosmer medium top):

modified medium with shoulders:

(actually wearing the light shoulders on top of medium chest.)
The medium shoulders could have tight neckline and light shoulders somewhat wider. Then we have three options:
- With medium shoulders we have reasonable protective looking armor.
- With light shouders we have slightly open neckline.
- With e.g. Mercenary light shoulders, which are very small and on one side only, we have wide neckline, but numerical protection.
- And we could also go without any shoulder piece.

Kammakazi

ELDER FLAPS ONLINE

WalkingLegacy

@MornaBaine

Why do all the ESO ladies have East West chests?

notimetocare

So demanding... and leave my pseudo-tassets alone and stop calling them flaps. Tassets are a part of their armor design, the robes are armor not doll dresses.

Daraugh

Flapdoodles on Khajiit robes look like a cross between a circus tent and standing between a can that's been sliced top to bottom. Everything about Khajiit is agility and then we have giant circus tent flapdoodles banging around our hips.

And flapdoodles comes right out of a Loremaster article that preceded a number of new costumes we have now.

Kharnis

The hip flaps definitely have to go. Not just on future styles, but retroactively on the old styles, too. They're awkward looking, and detract from the aesthetics of the armours. One could argue the heavy styles could keep them, but I would rather just see them go completely.

The front and back flaps, though, I will argue should stay. They help to give the armours in the game an iconic look. Just like a pic of boulder-sized shoulders immediately makes you identify WoW armour, the front and back flaps would immediately identify TESO armour. Having a few armours within each style without them, though, would definitely go a long way to giving people choices for their looks. I'm not sure how viable a toggle for them to be turned on or off would go, but if that wouldn't work, then just having the option to create a few without them would make a lot of people happy, I suspect. Heck, maybe even go the route they did with robe/shirt crafting, only with flaps/no flaps.

But death to the hip flaps.

waterfairy

What armor is this?

LadyNalcarya

@Vigarr wrote: »

What armor is this?

Encasements of Anguish, rare dolmen drop.

MornaBaine

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

@MornaBaine

Why do all the ESO ladies have East West chests?

Great question! It drives me crazy. Fix it ZOS! LOL

moonio

My character is currently wearing the marksman set and well, there goes any fashion sense..
I had to find a free Imperial costume in the Alik'r Desert to cover it up and now I can't wear my guild's tabard.