Enough is enough.

bountyspiter

Crown store was kinda fun for a while. Showing off your new costume or pet or whatever was cool. But enough is enough. These endless supplies of new costumes and mounts and pets are starting to annoy people. And the knowledge that this company makes SO MUCH money by selling them and that money just end up in their pockets never being invested into making the game better, into fixxing the lag, the limitless bugs, giving us DLCs that are actually more than 3 hours of new content is even more annoying.

So I wanted ZOS to know that I will never again buy anything from the crown store. I'm too fed up with this whole milk drinking process they use. No more money for you greedy people. I will also cancel my subscription. I've been a fool not to have done it already. Should have know the way this game is gonna go down ever since tamriel unlimited launched. Currently in the proccess of gradually abandoning this game. Hurray to all of you incompetent people at ZOS. HURRAY HURRAY.

emily3989

Wow, so if a company is producing a product that people are buying and they are making a profit, they need to ... what exactly?

When they start losing money from the game due to lack of subs/expansion purposes, and only then, will you see a change.

vamp_emily

I'm not sure how much costumes cost but no digital costume should cost more than $2.00 (US). I think I seen someone say that increasing riding skills to the max cost around $200 (US) that is kind of crazy if u ask me.

So between the initial cost of the game, subs, the dlcs, costumes, mounts, and other things on the crown store. I am sure they are making allot of money.

Not complaining that they are making money, but they are clearly overcharging ( in my opinion ).

I think they should lower the cost of costumes so more people will buy it. A happy customer goes along way

MacCait

I like the costumes and mounts. I have bought quite a few. Some of the packs are quite reasonable, 700 crowns for 3 costumes. But 2000 crowns for 1 costume? In the Uk thats about £10, which is currently $14 USA. £10 for a digital costume that looks ok at best? Even if it looked absoluetely amazing... £10 for one digital costume? That together with the £25 ($35 USA) assistants that do not do much but offer one service... what going on? Thats just getting out of hand!

Old_Greeg29

They make the crown store items expensive, because they are encouraging you to get most of the crown items yourself. For example, the motifs. They cost 5,000 crown points. That means you need to buy 5,500 crowns equaling 39.99. You can take the easy route and buy the motif, but thats a huge slap in the face for those that are working hard, and dedicating their time to get those motifs therefore making them expensive makes it so people dont feel as if Zenimax is just making everything "Pay to Win" as most people say.

MacCait

Old_Greeg29 wrote: »

They make the crown store items expensive, because they are encouraging you to get most of the crown items yourself. For example, the motifs. They cost 5,000 crown points. That means you need to buy 5,500 crowns equaling 39.99. You can take the easy route and buy the motif, but thats a huge slap in the face for those that are working hard, and dedicating their time to get those motifs therefore making them expensive makes it so people dont feel as if Zenimax is just making everything "Pay to Win" as most people say.

Sorry do not agree with this. Yes that may be true for motifs, but you cannot buy the other items in game so this theory/excuse does not hold true.

This IS a business, and any business needs to make money. I have no problem with that. In fact I support the game because its such a great game and I love it. I don't mind reasonable crown store prices. I have bought many mounts and costumes, and I subscribe to ESO plus. What I think is wrong is when prices start to get out of hand like recently, with these costumes and assistants.

Old_Greeg29 wrote: »

They make the crown store items expensive, because they are encouraging you to get most of the crown items yourself. For example, the motifs. They cost 5,000 crown points. That means you need to buy 5,500 crowns equaling 39.99. You can take the easy route and buy the motif, but thats a huge slap in the face for those that are working hard, and dedicating their time to get those motifs therefore making them expensive makes it so people dont feel as if Zenimax is just making everything "Pay to Win" as most people say.

I also don't think the game is 'pay to win'. A motif is not going to make you win anything. Even the soul gems and food etc are not over powered compared to syuff you can make in game. I do know other games that are pay to win and cannot see how ESO is on this level. The crown store is mostly for convenience and aesthetically pleasing items, vanity stuff.

I just think that its dangerous ground when a company starts to push prices higher and players actually start paying the prices. It sets a dangerous path where a company can get greedy and continue to push prices and players get disgruntled (apart from addicts who will pay any amount to have something) and then the whole game starts to go down hill. I just really hope that doesn't happen with ESO

Danikat

If money from the crown store is not being invested back into the game how have they been paying their staff for the past year? Unless you believe the people who still pay a subscription are enough entirely on their own to keep the game running and pay for the development of all the new content that's come out.

vamp_emily wrote: »

I'm not sure how much costumes cost but no digital costume should cost more than $2.00 (US). I think I seen someone say that increasing riding skills to the max cost around $200 (US) that is kind of crazy if u ask me.

I agree that's extremely expensive for what you get. Fortunately you also have the option to pay with in-game gold, it just takes longer, and at least it doesn't get progressively more expensive like bank and bag upgrades do.

Other items in the crown store I think are more reasonable, like the packs of costumes for 700 crowns (which works out to about £3 if you buy the 5,500 crown packs).

For me it's a simple matter of looking at the price of each item and deciding if I think it's worth it. Some things I think are reasonably priced, others are far too expensive and I wouldn't get it even if I wanted it (like the single costumes for over 1,000 crowns) and very occasionally an item falls into the 'expensive but worth it' category. Like the clouded-leopard senche which cost £10.90, more than I'd usually spend on a mount but I love having it.

Utildai

I disagree OP... We need more stuff... You personally don't have to buy a single thing...

TheShadowScout

bountyspiter wrote: »

Crown store was kinda fun for a while... And the knowledge that this company makes SO MUCH money by selling them and that money just end up in their pockets never being invested into making the game better, into fixxing the lag, the limitless bugs, giving us DLCs that are actually more than 3 hours of new content is even more annoying.

Imagine if they used the money from the crown store for that sort of thing instead of paying their server upkeep, their staff, and -gasp- showing a profits to the suits in charge of their company. You know what would happen? The suits in charge would pull the plug on the servers because the venture was "unprofitable". That's what you'd get if you'd get what you say you want.

Me, I am quite happy that they keep adding stuff to the crown store, which I may or may not buy depending on how much it interests me, and spend the profits equally between all things they need paying for ESO to be around for a long time to come.

JamilaRaj

Danikat wrote: »

If money from the crown store is not being invested back into the game how have they been paying their staff for the past year? Unless you believe the people who still pay a subscription are enough entirely on their own to keep the game running and pay for the development of all the new content that's come out.

I think upkeep itself is relatively cheap and does not require awful lot of subscribers. Some games such as DAoC or Asheron's Call apparently have tiny userbase, yet somehow live on/survive.

emily3989 wrote: »

Wow, so if a company is producing a product that people are buying and they are making a profit, they need to ... what exactly?

When they start losing money from the game due to lack of subs/expansion purposes, and only then, will you see a change.

Nah, they will rather go bankrupt than change their sick ways. P2W to the last breath.

Kainos98

Utildai wrote: »

I disagree OP... We need more stuff... You personally don't have to buy a single thing...

I couldn't agree more lol. Shop could always use more imo, if people wanna support the game and buy stuff, let em.

Bofrari

It don't really matter honestly just because you quit buying and subbing dont mean the 1000s or tens of thousands are going to they won't even notice not trying to be mean it's just the truth.

Bofrari

You'd be about as affective as going upto Wal-Mart and saying hey I quit shopping here guess what they will still be there and being making plenty of money.

LindsC

Why do you think that people will care if you don't buy anything from the crown store/cancelling your subscription?

Levi

I like the Crown Store. I don't think other things should be put on hold to pump more things into the Crown Store, but I think it is a great way to support the game if you don't want to pay for a subscription. I think they have done a good job with it, too. Nothing in there is necessary to to do well in the game, but there are some cool things in there.
If they don't make a profit of some kind, they stop making DLCs. I don't want that to happen. There is so much more in Tamriel left to see, so I'm happy to support them by buying a few things out of the Crown Store when I see something I like.

ThePMSBeast

A total Troll and a bad one at that. blah blah, uninstall have a nice day .

ChrissR

Yeah it is very expensive.. but its a fun game, and you dont have to buy the DLC's

vyrusb23

bountyspiter wrote: »

And the knowledge that this company makes SO MUCH money by selling them and that money just end up in their pockets never being invested into making the game better, into fixxing the lag, the limitless bugs, giving us DLCs that are actually more than 3 hours of new content is even more annoying.

Heaven forbid a company makes money.

You're implying that the money that they make from the Crown store goes directly into the employees pockets, ie. it is ALL profit? You're so mind boggling ignorant it hurts my brain. Please take steps to educate yourself before you make a fool of yourself on a public forum. It will go a long way towards making you look at least semi-intelligent.

ChrissR

vyrusb23 wrote: »

bountyspiter wrote: »

And the knowledge that this company makes SO MUCH money by selling them and that money just end up in their pockets never being invested into making the game better, into fixxing the lag, the limitless bugs, giving us DLCs that are actually more than 3 hours of new content is even more annoying.

Heaven forbid a company makes money.

You're implying that the money that they make from the Crown store goes directly into the employees pockets, ie. it is ALL profit? You're so mind boggling ignorant it hurts my brain. Please take steps to educate yourself before you make a fool of yourself on a public forum. It will go a long way towards making you look at least semi-intelligent.

Savage girl

BlackguardBob

ZoS scrapped the ill conceived compulsory monthly sub a year ago and produced the Crown Store to make money through voluntary contributions.

When they were demanding money from everybody every month all we got was another 30 days of ESO. There was no DLC and we were promised this every 4-6 weeks. They took buckets of dosh from us and gave us nothing but Craglorn.

Since they stopped this practice of no-pay-no-play and introduced the Crown store, all contributions are voluntary and look at all the regular DLC we are getting now.

Every person that shops at the Crown Store is keeping this game going for all the people playing ESO:TU including those that make no financial support to ZoS beyond the initial purchase of the game.

Our fun time is ZoS' work time. You cannot blame them for trying to raise revenue. ESO is not a charity and if you don't want to spend money that's great. If you do want to spend money that's also great.

What isn't great @OP is moaning here on the forums as if it is going to have any positive impact. It is like a person looking in a shop window, not seeing what he likes and then goes into the shop and gives the owner a piece of his mind! Really!

vyrusb23

ChrissR wrote: »

vyrusb23 wrote: »

bountyspiter wrote: »

And the knowledge that this company makes SO MUCH money by selling them and that money just end up in their pockets never being invested into making the game better, into fixxing the lag, the limitless bugs, giving us DLCs that are actually more than 3 hours of new content is even more annoying.

Heaven forbid a company makes money.

You're implying that the money that they make from the Crown store goes directly into the employees pockets, ie. it is ALL profit? You're so mind boggling ignorant it hurts my brain. Please take steps to educate yourself before you make a fool of yourself on a public forum. It will go a long way towards making you look at least semi-intelligent.

Savage girl

I call 'em like I see 'em these days.

Xellos77

bountyspiter wrote: »

Crown store was kinda fun for a while. Showing off your new costume or pet or whatever was cool. But enough is enough. These endless supplies of new costumes and mounts and pets are starting to annoy people. And the knowledge that this company makes SO MUCH money by selling them and that money just end up in their pockets never being invested into making the game better, into fixxing the lag, the limitless bugs, giving us DLCs that are actually more than 3 hours of new content is even more annoying.

So I wanted ZOS to know that I will never again buy anything from the crown store. I'm too fed up with this whole milk drinking process they use. No more money for you greedy people. I will also cancel my subscription. I've been a fool not to have done it already. Should have know the way this game is gonna go down ever since tamriel unlimited launched. Currently in the proccess of gradually abandoning this game. Hurray to all of you incompetent people at ZOS. HURRAY HURRAY.

Yup. Right into their pockets. I'd ask for your source of knowledge but I'm not going to bother. Also, along the same line I suppose these forums and website are free to maintain, the DLC is released out of the kindness of someone's unpaid heart, and patches to make adjustments and improvements are simply.. illusions?

I'm sure you're loss of $15 per month will bankrupt the company.