Grinding and etiquette

Asherons_Call

In response to the negative/argumentative thread on people not knowing how to grind (without offering suggestions) , I thought I would put up a quick post to help some newer players that don't know how and to give a few tips. I have become fairly proficient in grinding over the past several games over the years, and have compiled a lot of info in my head. Most of this is universal and doesn't apply to any one game.

1. One great thing about ESO is that you only have to "tag" the mob to get full XP. Run through a group of enemies and AOE once or twice to tag them. This gives other players a chance to get their hits in as well. Everyone gets full XP, everyone happy, no one gets mad and rages at you, follows you around just to make you mad, etc.

2. All delves are set up in a circle, so just find an empty delve at your level and run the loop. After a few rotations you will begin to memorize the time, location and number of mobs that spawn and can adjust your path accordingly. If you feel this particular delve is not netting you enough XP, move to another one.

3. Make note of the type of drops you get along with any chest/node locations. Animal mobs will drop crafting mats while humanoids will drop gold. Grind mobs that drop what you need the most. Some delves will net you less XP but will be rich in chests and nodes.

3. If there are too many players on your current loop, find another loop or ask if you can join. Remember, XP degrades when you have three or more party members so coordinate with those around you and set yourselves up in groups of two. If you're not a people person (like me) just find another area. It can get frustrating but don't take it out on them. They're playing the same game as you. There are multiple locations for every level, so get out there and explore! The more knowledge you have of scouted locations the quicker you can relocate if you feel overcrowded.

4. Quote from Gandalf "Keep it secret, keep it safe". Never disclose your grinding spots online. That defeats the purpose. Tip your cap to other players who found the same spot as you know the work involved in finding them.

5. If the mobs are taking too long to take down or if you are at any time at risk of dying, you are in the wrong spot. Save this location for later when you are stronger. Grinding is all about speed and efficiency.

6. ESO-specific: there are certain areas that are scaled to your level (Wrothgar, hews bane). These are the few and far between areas where max level characters can grind champion points. Out of courtesy to higher level players, if you are not max level please do not grind these areas. You will understand why this is important once you hit max level yourself.

Feel free to contribute your tips and ideas! I will continue to add to this list

Miszou

lol

jzholloway

If people would only realize this... sadly it seems some people intend to screw things up on purpose.

Lightninvash

best way to grind run a circle opposite of everyone else and share the xp ofc

DRXHarbinger

.6 you really think anyone who isn't vet16 is going to keep away from wrothgar public dungeons whilst you grind champ points for the all important....0.1% gain per point??? Not sure if srs or trolling but I'll keep running and spinning in circles through the lot of you for now and take the xp for myself.... I'm sure you'll understand the grind to max level is much more frustrating than the grind of those whom are simply bored stiff to grind champ points with nothing better to do in the game.

Things I like about eso...steel tornado, jabs, pulsar. Serving to annoy the "community" since April 14.

Gargath

Well, this is mmo with open worlds available to everyone, so when it comes to grinding or doing any other actions - first come first served. You can't ask others to leave if you wish to grind alone or you can't ask someone who is playing in his own style, to follow your style, to avoid making you unhappy. Instead, if you are unhappy with someone, leave the area and go somewhere else. Your 'code of conducts' may not be the best for everyone and it must not be.

And btw you don't seem to be very social when you recommend to keep in secret the grinding area only for yourself. When you stop grinding in some area, why can't you announce this place online to anyone willing to use it too. It's more friendly attitude.


As for me, I recommend a great grinding place in Coldharbour, available for everyone.
Grinding mobs: group of Ogrims lvl 44, slow and clumsy.
Area: Tower of Lies (quest hub), N-W from Hollow City.
Each Ogrim gives 1150 XP with Jubilae Cake and Psijic Ambrosia. Can draw attention and kill fast up to 5-6 Ogrims together so more than 5-6k XP comes in seconds. Respawn is incredibly fast, new Ogrims come even before bodies are removed .
Grinding this area is up to vet1, then XP from this area is gone.
I started there on lvl45 and reached Vet1 in little more than 1 hour! Probably even lower lvl can start there.
I was playing magicka templar with AOE class skills only, very effective.
I don't keep it for myself - hope others will use this grinding place for their own benefit .

Asherons_Call

Such well thought out responses! Keep them coming!

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

.6 you really think anyone who isn't vet16 is going to keep away from wrothgar public dungeons whilst you grind champ points for the all important....0.1% gain per point??? Not sure if srs or trolling but I'll keep running and spinning in circles through the lot of you for now and take the xp for myself.... I'm sure you'll understand the grind to max level is much more frustrating than the grind of those whom are simply bored stiff to grind champ points with nothing better to do in the game.

Things I like about eso...steel tornado, jabs, pulsar. Serving to annoy the "community" since April 14.

Yes, I for one leave the scaled areas to my V16 and stick to lesser known delves for my alts. I know it may seem surprising to you but there are some courteous players out there. (Dying breed admittedly but they're out there)

D0ntevenL1ft

On contrary to number one.. In my recent grinding I have not been getting full xp if you just tag a monster. The xp has dropped considerably with even one more person at the spot to share it with.

Acrolas

I haven't even used an entire cake serving on a character and I'm already more fed up and bored with the game than before the event began.

So I guess thanks everyone for making extra work more attractive than a few hours of so-called entertainment...

Asherons_Call

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

On contrary to number one.. In my recent grinding I have not been getting full xp if you just tag a monster. The xp has dropped considerably with even one more person at the spot to share it with.

That's interesting I'll have to double check that tonight but I thought it was working for me yesterday. Are you sure you tagged every mob in the group? Is it possible that you missed a couple?

NewBlacksmurf

Good solid post.

I will add this tho

It's shared space to while there is etiquette everyone needs to expect each day to see ppl who won't, don't or can't do it the way others do.
Maybe it's wrong, maybe it's right or maybe it's just that people will be people so we all have to not be the jerk even if we feel others are being the jerk. I've been the jerk wanting someone to do it like everyone else and later I realized......I was wrong.

I have to be O K with other people choosing to play how they want as long as they are in compliance with Xbox live, PSN or ZOS.

D0ntevenL1ft

Asherons_Call wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

On contrary to number one.. In my recent grinding I have not been getting full xp if you just tag a monster. The xp has dropped considerably with even one more person at the spot to share it with.

That's interesting I'll have to double check that tonight but I thought it was working for me yesterday. Are you sure you tagged every mob in the group? Is it possible that you missed a couple?

Don't think so! I have grinded same spot multiple multiple hours. Will do more testing because i previously believed your statement up until the xp trackers came out on console! I would get 12k a mob by myself or 8-9k with one other person. Drops down to 5-6k if theres 1-2 more after that as well.

Asherons_Call

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Good solid post.

I will add this tho

It's shared space to while there is etiquette everyone needs to expect each day to see ppl who won't, don't or can't do it the way others do.
Maybe it's wrong, maybe it's right or maybe it's just that people will be people so we all have to not be the jerk even if we feel others are being the jerk. I've been the jerk wanting someone to do it like everyone else and later I realized......I was wrong.

I have to be O K with other people choosing to play how they want as long as they are in compliance with Xbox live, PSN or ZOS.

Yes Of course. The longer you play MMOs the more apparent this fact will be. I personally will just remove myself from the situation if I'm faced with players who have a different outlook than my own

waterfairy

Aren't there grind spots in Cyrodiil? If so then why don't you grind there and you won't have to worry about any questers interfering with you or you interfering with their quest.

Grinding only makes sense to me if you're a competitive PvP player and want to rock with the big boys, otherwise it's just a pointless race to the top....there isn't cool looking gear or anything exciting waiting for your at vet 16.

Asherons_Call

Vigarr wrote: »

Aren't there grind spots in Cyrodiil? If so then why don't you grind there and you won't have to worry about any questers interfering with you or you interfering with their quest.

Grinding only makes sense to me if you're a competitive PvP player and want to rock with the big boys, otherwise it's just a pointless race to the top....there isn't cool looking gear or anything exciting waiting for your at vet 16.

I left out Cyrodiil because of the complications you run into there. Admittedly the XP there is amazing if you can sustain it, but if you run into other players your xp/hour drops dramatically. The best time to go to a Cyrodiil delve to grind is at off peak hours. I will add this to my OP

Gargath

Vigarr wrote: »

Grinding only makes sense to me if you're a competitive PvP player and want to rock with the big boys, otherwise it's just a pointless race to the top....there isn't cool looking gear or anything exciting waiting for your at vet 16.

Getting vet16 gears to use them to quickly level crafting skills of other alts, without paying much gold for such gears from stores, seems quite exciting .

Caff32

Have to disagree with you about leaving the scaled zones for V16 players. The amount of XP you can gain in certain areas of those zones is greater than nearly anywhere else in the game. A few hours there took my Lv. 23 to VR2. The areas are big enough that they can find their own little area in them to grind. They don't need the whole thing.

Hutch679

Every man/woman for themself. I'll do what I want when I grind. I.E. Tag one mob while running past you and drop shooting star on the next so only I get the kills. I give zero f***s.

DHale

Agree with Hutch if I am there you better be moving faster than me... Tagging more... If I notice less XP I might leave maybe maybe not. Everyone has exactly the same right to everything as well everyone else.

myrrrorb14_ESO

I usually save Wrothgar for when I hit vr14. It's a magical way to hit max in very little time.

Point 1 gets complicated. The xp is shared between everyone who hits the target, is in a group with someone who hits target, or heals one of the previous. It is interesting to note that xp is divided out amongst all of those people even if that person is ineligible to receive xp. I think there is also a threshold % damage done, but it's pretty low and applies to group vs group dynamics. Also complicating the hit everything is aoe caps, which can mess with trying to hit everything.

Good point on 2 and 3. I keep meaning to write down what drops in which delves.

Point 4. Share the love! Unless it's a PvP delve like cracked wood

Point 5 is awesome! I went to go farm in the sewers, because I remember it being super fast xp. Well its not if you are too low, lol.

Respectfully disagree of 6. It's open to everyone. Vet characters can do anything / anywhere. It is great for champion points, but better for getting those last few levels.