Why no circlets?

Ra'Shtar

I have wondered for months now why is there no circlets in ESO but after equipping the trinimac light helmet i can with total honesty say that it doesn't fit the rest of outfit, this style would be so much better with a circlet instead of the ugly ass hood that is present in EVERY SINGLE other style its time to move away from the hood and create something different because it doesn't matter how good the robe looks the hood is pretty much the same. The art team does a very good joob in this game but i need variation on the head gear design its getting stale by now.

PS: Yes i know most circlets are made of metal and leather but they are light armor we use light armor in ESO the skill line is named as such and for further proof just take a look at the plated light armor from the alliance styles.

Epona222

I think you raise a fair point.

When the game first launched, there were no player-crafted light shirts, only robes. The shirt option was added later. It would be an improvement to customisation of characters if circlet was available as an alternative to a hat. And most of the headgear in the game is extraordinarily ugly. Might clash with some of the head jewelry available in character creation though

Ra'Shtar

Epona222 wrote: »

I think you raise a fair point.

When the game first launched, there were no player-crafted light shirts, only robes. The shirt option was added later. It would be an improvement to customisation of characters if circlet was available as an alternative to a hat. And most of the headgear in the game is extraordinarily ugly. Might clash with some of the head jewelry available in character creation though

They could simply code some priority protocol, when you show helmet (circlet in this case) your head jewelry would be hidden the same way beards are hidden when you show helmet even if its just a helmet and has no effect on your face.

goatlyonesub17_ESO

This is the crown I made Lydia wear in Skyrim. It was double-enchanted with a special crafting skill buff. My own Dragonborn crown was the copper one with the rubies.

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

I used an exploit to create 'crafting gloves' with huge buffs to alchemy and smithing. With the alchemy buff, I could make an enchanting potion that gave an insanely powerful enchanting skill buff. With weapons, it was instant super-legendary, but no enchantment. Didn't need any.

My armor, though, was loaded with mighty double enchantments.

VodkaVixen1979

I love circlets too. I created my character with the gold one on the forehead and just hide my helmet. Wish it was armor instead though, because then I could dye it. Now I regret being stuck with gold and red on my face which clashes with some dye combos I have wanted to try.

SantieClaws

This one likes the idea but wonders how these will fit over her ears?

Already there is enough trouble with ill fitting saddles!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Ra'Shtar

SantieClaws wrote: »

This one likes the idea but wonders how these will fit over her ears?

Already there is enough trouble with ill fitting saddles!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

A picture is worth one thousand words.

SantieClaws

Ah. Many thanks. Khajiit likes the idea of these as a change from the helmet.

Much nicer to have the spring breeze in your ears - and to be able to scratch your head when you need to.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Moonshadow66

I like the idea!
Even in Skyrim I was/am wearing circlets (like the first of your pictures) because I don't want to run around with helmets or hoods anymore. Well, until I installed a mod to wear both circlet and hood/helmet together AND a mod to hide helmets. And another mod that lets me craft circlets that are counted as armor
So yeah, I'm all for it. I can't see these hoods in ESO anymore either, especially the Trinimac one because it's butt-ugly imo.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

I'd like something other than hoods for light armor too. There are what, three? Non-hood hats presently. Circlets, headbands, maybe a headdress of some kind, just more variety in general would be nice.

NovaMarx

YAY for circlets! Generally, anything that isn't a hood or strange cloth hat
A lot of the light armors are decorated with metals and leathers, so it wouldn't be out of place to make a circlet. It would also be incredibly lore friendly

Abeille

I like hoods, but I'm all for circlets!

And I would like a style that has both together, too.

TheShadowScout

I keep mentioning circlets and crowns every time jewelry crafting comes up... as one more option for things to craft with that one. Since a circlet definitely would not be any kind of armor (I mean, really... protection, huh?) but more of an oversized ring that just goes on your head instead of on your finger...
Thus I would imagine them as headgear that provides no armor, but some nice magical bonus instead. Possibly a bonus that might be expanded to the whole group if the criclet/crown is worn by the group leader...

Of course, there are other headgear options I could think of.
Facemasks for example... there are many types of masks in history, admittedly usually used for theater, but... masked marauders/assassins -are- a common clichee for many a fantasy genre, so... its one more option.

Moonshadow66

My characters Donna and Venus:

If only the circlet and the headband were craftable and part of the armor, but I added them in the character creation already (obviously) and therefore I cannot replace them nor do they have any other effect than looking good. The hoods are hidden, of course.

Ra'Shtar

Furthermore i have concluded the the current light armor is lacking detail in design, just look at these from Skyrim a game much older than ESO the game engine could easily handle this type of armor design.




I extremely admire how fashionable they are while still inspiring a sense of utility and commodity, if you pay attention you will see things like powder bags, small packs etc.

@TheShadowScout there is no need to worry abut that kind of stuff we make shields with metal pieces and they only require wood, real crafting will be overly complicated and would take so much space and time to gather all the materials it would not be practical to master crafter in 1 character.

Moonshadow66

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

Furthermore i have concluded the the current light armor is lacking detail in design, just look at these from Skyrim a game much older than ESO the game engine could easily handle this type of armor design.




I extremely admire how fashionable they are while still inspiring a sense of utility and commodity, if you pay attention you will see things like powder bags, small packs etc.

@TheShadowScout there is no need to worry abut that kind of stuff we make shields with metal pieces and they only require wood, real crafting will be overly complicated and would take so much space and time to gather all the materials it would not be practical to master crafter in 1 character.

These Solstheim cultists always scare me to death with their appearance! Last time this happened was just 3 days ago at night in Morthal when I didn't expect it at all.. the creepiest thing I've seen in Skyrim, ever, and I've seen everything! lol

NovaMarx

TheShadowScout wrote: »

I keep mentioning circlets and crowns every time jewelry crafting comes up... as one more option for things to craft with that one. Since a circlet definitely would not be any kind of armor (I mean, really... protection, huh?) but more of an oversized ring that just goes on your head instead of on your finger...
Thus I would imagine them as headgear that provides no armor, but some nice magical bonus instead. Possibly a bonus that might be expanded to the whole group if the criclet/crown is worn by the group leader...

Of course, there are other headgear options I could think of.
Facemasks for example... there are many types of masks in history, admittedly usually used for theater, but... masked marauders/assassins -are- a common clichee for many a fantasy genre, so... its one more option.

A cloth hood isn't exactly armor either, IMO. And the gist is that it would be nice to be able to have circlets as an alternative to light armor hoods, as not everyone likes hoods - or it doesn't fit a certain character.

I wouldn't mind if circlets were added as some kind of jewelry, but it would have to visible on the character. However, this would still mean having to wear a hood, which kinda negates OP

TheShadowScout

NovaMarx wrote: »

A cloth hood isn't exactly armor either, IMO. And the gist is that it would be nice to be able to have circlets as an alternative to light armor hoods, as not everyone likes hoods - or it doesn't fit a certain character.

I wouldn't mind if circlets were added as some kind of jewelry, but it would have to visible on the character. However, this would still mean having to wear a hood, which kinda negates OP

Actually... a hood can be light armor, if you make it with tough cloth and add some layer of padding. Ancient egyptiaons and greeks started with Linen armor... I was more thinking of "coverage" when I wrote that one. I mean, a strip around your head isn't exactly in any position to stop attacks, right?

And I would totally love to have circlets or similar "head adornment" options to be seperate from appereance, and be an piece of gear in their own right! Though the option to choose between "magican bonus" and "head protection" is also quite appealing to my taste.

NovaMarx

TheShadowScout wrote: »

NovaMarx wrote: »

A cloth hood isn't exactly armor either, IMO. And the gist is that it would be nice to be able to have circlets as an alternative to light armor hoods, as not everyone likes hoods - or it doesn't fit a certain character.

I wouldn't mind if circlets were added as some kind of jewelry, but it would have to visible on the character. However, this would still mean having to wear a hood, which kinda negates OP

Actually... a hood can be light armor, if you make it with tough cloth and add some layer of padding. Ancient egyptiaons and greeks started with Linen armor... I was more thinking of "coverage" when I wrote that one. I mean, a strip around your head isn't exactly in any position to stop attacks, right?

And I would totally love to have circlets or similar "head adornment" options to be seperate from appereance, and be an piece of gear in their own right! Though the option to choose between "magican bonus" and "head protection" is also quite appealing to my taste.

Agreed, cloth can to some extent protect (at least in regards to coverage), but still
But being able to make a circlet that has less protection, but more magicka, would be an awesome feature! But if it is added it will probably just be as a normal headgear or jewelry item, with no extra perks.

Gidorick

Circlets for Jewelry Crafting for SURE. there really are plenty of items that could go under jewelry crafting. I'm not sure why this doesn't exist.

I kind of wish most of the "Accessories" were removed from the options in character creation also and allow players to create those items as jewelry.

I mean, a flower in the hair is cute and all... but a flower ALWAYS in the hair is annoying

Marcosyn11

The problem is that there is already circlets in character creation. I like the idea of having them in jewelry crafting.

Moonscythe

Marcosyn11 wrote: »

The problem is that there is already circlets in character creation. I like the idea of having them in jewelry crafting.

It's the non-removability of the head jewelry that is annoying. I like the hoods on my mages sometimes and sometimes not and that's okay because I can hide them at will. In Skyrim I mostly used circlets for all my ladies because I want to see them. There was no hide helmet then so circlets were the way to go. My dunmer mage looked amazing in Nightingale with the silver and sapphire circlet instead of the Nightingale helmet with the face mask. Plus, circlets came in many color combinations so I could just make new ones at will.

We just really need the barber shop and a lot of flexibility but I have no clue how doable that is in an MMO. One of the things I liked best in KOA: Reckoning was the mirror. I changed my hair and jewelry every time I got new armor.

LadyNalcarya

I agree, we need more visual options.
Just look at mods, there's a lot of ides.
Crowns...
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/5803/?
Face masks...
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33391/?
Tiaras/circlets...
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37764/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/35880/?
Some of these might be added as adornments, some as parts of crafted styles.
By the way, I dont understand why many jewelry options in character creator look randomly glued on characters forehead.

Ra'Shtar

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

I agree, we need more visual options.
Just look at mods, there's a lot of ides.
Crowns...
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/5803/?
Face masks...
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33391/?
Tiaras/circlets...
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37764/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/35880/?
Some of these might be added as adornments, some as parts of crafted styles.
By the way, I dont understand why many jewelry options in character creator look randomly glued on characters forehead.

I would love an actual crown as a head costume, kind of like the mask from the orsinium quest.

Duiwel

Keep your circlet OP

Give me a crown!

Godfrey de Highrock deserves nothing less!

Ra'Shtar

Duiwel wrote: »

Keep your circlet OP

Give me a crown!

Godfrey de Highrock deserves nothing less!

But why not both?

Ra'Shtar

Marcosyn11 wrote: »

The problem is that there is already circlets in character creation. I like the idea of having them in jewelry crafting.

They said they don't have plans to introduce jewel crafting for quite some time so the other logical approach would be to add it to light armor kind of the same way robes and shirt work.

LadyNalcarya

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

Marcosyn11 wrote: »

The problem is that there is already circlets in character creation. I like the idea of having them in jewelry crafting.

They said they don't have plans to introduce jewel crafting for quite some time so the other logical approach would be to add it to light armor kind of the same way robes and shirt work.

Partial costume, like Vosh Rakh mask or Cadwell's helmet would be nice, as well. They could also add some other details, like lich flying lanterns:

And maybe some fancy headpieces.
Maybe something like Almalexia's and dragon priest masks:

Ra'Shtar

You know i found a skeleton in Greenshade with a golden dragon priest mask i found it really odd, i like the lich head piece its different from the other we need more diversity i'm so tired of hoods.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

+1 masks, even if they ONLY did Dragon Priest masks with it...and if they make them wood Woodworking as a skill wouldn't be hurt by an extra item to craft, Cothier and Blacksmithing outnumber it as far as items by a lot.

Tryxus

You mean "tiaras"?