Templar Magika DPS

Solaaris

Hi guys

How are dps magika templars? Iv'e been mooching around on the interwebs and are seeing various things, best think since sliced bread to utter dog poo..

Im currently leveling mine and well if I should give up and go stamplar I would rather do it now than later?

Cheers

Nifty2g

its really nice in pve right now

Solaaris

Nifty2g wrote: »

its really nice in pve right now

But pants in PvP right?

BlackEar

PvP is not all about DPS, though. It is solid in PvE and easy to switch to healer in PVP for extra utility

Alcast

It is very nice in PvP and super OP in Open world mass PvP.
Nothing special, just uploaded a video of Magplar Wayrest run: https://youtu.be/OdU_T-WmUiQ
I will upload some PvP fun soon too.

Also some very good Magplar PvP can be found from @blabafat https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFNmXCgmTVo-T-p1BIVLxbQ

Solaaris

So its worth carrying on (even though im an Argonian lol)

Cheers guys

Francescolg

Hello Solaaris!
The guy who wrote you sth. positive about Templars, he is one of 3-5 guys who keep spamming the forums with their positive view up on the class, also the Blablafat-videos started exactly at the point, when many templar started complaining about being nurfed. We wrote hundreds (!) of threads with explicit feedback up on the class and it's massive shortcomings in terms of AoE-CC, mobility and we complained about the 2year-long buggy and very clumsy (slow) skills of the class, which make you "more defenseless" in PvP. Of course, if you can play well, you'll will succeed in every class BUT not standing on equal grounds, which is what we expect in a game with just 4 classes! Do not believe statements like "Templar is super OP!"

If you want a more realistic and unbiased (also not so positive) overview of the Templar class and about its shortcomings, I would suggest you to search for threads in the forums and to (!) read this one (!): http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/245184/official-feedback-thread-for-templars#latest (most recent thread about the class. Many contributors are not playing this game any longer but it is the, up to date, most recent information about the status quo!

If you are more a single-player type in PvP, you should absolutely inform about the class, but, If you play in groups 100% of the time, than you can play any class: But be aware, even if you're a group player, nonetheless, you will have a lot of 1:1 encounters vs. skilled players, who will know when to interrupt you and that you lack defenses, so you'll also be "first target", just because you are an easy kill. Of course, you can wear heavy armor, that is actually one way of surviving as a templar. But your best defense was taken, long ago, when Blazing Shield was made useless and the templars only AoE-CC (Blinding Flashes) was removed from the game!

Many, and I do not just -say so- (!), Templars have left the boat! I'd like to argue with numbers, statistics, etc. but the game developer knows why, we won't see statistics in this game, as PvP is overcrowded with Nightblades and Sorcerers, even DKs, lastly, but not at all templars.

Please read the thread I linked for you, everything is in there! Always make your own opinion!

NewBlacksmurf

Regardless of race, I find the magic to be the best way regardless of role.

I will say that you may want to have one or so morphs that use stamina but...that's only a preference thing.

Magic is the way

puffy99

For Mag Templar in PvP think lobbing artillery shells and laser beams and you will get the picture..

Kris_wbg

Mag templar is absolutely amazing in PvP right now... At least the one I run with..

Brrrofski

Francescolg wrote: »

Hello Solaaris!
The guy who wrote you sth. positive about Templars, he is one of 3-5 guys who keep spamming the forums with their positive view up on the class, also the Blablafat-videos started exactly at the point, when many templar started complaining about being nurfed. We wrote hundreds (!) of threads with explicit feedback up on the class and it's massive shortcomings in terms of AoE-CC, mobility and we complained about the 2year-long buggy and very clumsy (slow) skills of the class, which make you "more defenseless" in PvP. Of course, if you can play well, you'll will succeed in every class BUT not standing on equal grounds, which is what we expect in a game with just 4 classes! Do not believe statements like "Templar is super OP!"

If you want a more realistic and unbiased (also not so positive) overview of the Templar class and about its shortcomings, I would suggest you to search for threads in the forums and to (!) read this one (!): http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/245184/official-feedback-thread-for-templars#latest (most recent thread about the class. Many contributors are not playing this game any longer but it is the, up to date, most recent information about the status quo!

If you are more a single-player type in PvP, you should absolutely inform about the class, but, If you play in groups 100% of the time, than you can play any class: But be aware, even if you're a group player, nonetheless, you will have a lot of 1:1 encounters vs. skilled players, who will know when to interrupt you and that you lack defenses, so you'll also be "first target", just because you are an easy kill. Of course, you can wear heavy armor, that is actually one way of surviving as a templar. But your best defense was taken, long ago, when Blazing Shield was made useless and the templars only AoE-CC (Blinding Flashes) was removed from the game!

Many, and I do not just -say so- (!), Templars have left the boat! I'd like to argue with numbers, statistics, etc. but the game developer knows why, we won't see statistics in this game, as PvP is overcrowded with Nightblades and Sorcerers, even DKs, lastly, but not at all templars.

Please read the thread I linked for you, everything is in there! Always make your own opinion!

Lol, what?

Anyway, they're strong in pve and pvp. The one thing that let's it down in pvp is movement speed imo. But as far as damage goes, it hits pretty hard. You'll probably need a bit more health than other classes, but you should be covered on that front being an Argonian.

Fuzzybrick

I enjoy both. Currently I like my stamplar more, but I think my magicka templar is defently stronger than my stamina templar.

technohic

It's not perfect but very strong. Probably not as good as some in 1v1 unless you're blabafat, but still maybe the strongest in a group.

DuckNoodles

For mag dps temp Pve. I can say that they are heading in the right direction, they feel alot stronger on the dps front, but saying that templars still need alot of work done to them.

Francescolg

Brrrofski wrote: »

Lol, what?

Anyway, they're strong in pve and pvp.

Oh yes, beside your insult here, we know about you: Breath of Life was OP and that content in this game is too easy for you, that is what we learn from your 20-50 Posts in the templar thread.
The game is going into "your direction", so be happy about it!

Nonetheless, the TE should read the thread about Templars (even page 1 is enough) and make his own opinion about the class! That is my adivise to the thread editor! And that he does not listen to me, or to you, but that he develops his own perspective on the class.

Stop quoting me for -saying that-, as I am just objective, thanks so much, Brrr-sth.!

Again the link: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/245184/official-feedback-thread-for-templars/p1

milkbox

I think the blending of elemental and magic damage into one CP perk has definitely upped my dps. Still worth it to put some into Thaumaturge for DOTs, though. V16 mobs that took 3 hits to kill now take 2, and nothing has changed in my build but CP.

After 2+ years on a magicka temp, I'm actually doing damage in PvP, too (when not running as group heals).

Egonieser

Solaaris wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

its really nice in pve right now

But pants in PvP right?

Depends, stamina templars don't do so well, magicka ones if geared and specced right can be very lethal, especially now Jesus Beam is fixed again.
Dark Flare+Vampires bane quickly followed by Jesus beam drops even the tankiest of builds in a heartbeat, given that you initiate the attack first. With the CP changes to magicka trees, templar skills really got a long needed buff.
I'm talking obviously about DD specced templar (Dual wield+resto), not quite sure how utility templars fare.

Nifty2g

Francescolg wrote: »

Hello Solaaris!
The guy who wrote you sth. positive about Templars, he is one of 3-5 guys who keep spamming the forums with their positive view up on the class, also the Blablafat-videos started exactly at the point, when many templar started complaining about being nurfed. We wrote hundreds (!) of threads with explicit feedback up on the class and it's massive shortcomings in terms of AoE-CC, mobility and we complained about the 2year-long buggy and very clumsy (slow) skills of the class, which make you "more defenseless" in PvP. Of course, if you can play well, you'll will succeed in every class BUT not standing on equal grounds, which is what we expect in a game with just 4 classes! Do not believe statements like "Templar is super OP!"

If you want a more realistic and unbiased (also not so positive) overview of the Templar class and about its shortcomings, I would suggest you to search for threads in the forums and to (!) read this one (!): http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/245184/official-feedback-thread-for-templars#latest (most recent thread about the class. Many contributors are not playing this game any longer but it is the, up to date, most recent information about the status quo!

If you are more a single-player type in PvP, you should absolutely inform about the class, but, If you play in groups 100% of the time, than you can play any class: But be aware, even if you're a group player, nonetheless, you will have a lot of 1:1 encounters vs. skilled players, who will know when to interrupt you and that you lack defenses, so you'll also be "first target", just because you are an easy kill. Of course, you can wear heavy armor, that is actually one way of surviving as a templar. But your best defense was taken, long ago, when Blazing Shield was made useless and the templars only AoE-CC (Blinding Flashes) was removed from the game!

Many, and I do not just -say so- (!), Templars have left the boat! I'd like to argue with numbers, statistics, etc. but the game developer knows why, we won't see statistics in this game, as PvP is overcrowded with Nightblades and Sorcerers, even DKs, lastly, but not at all templars.

Please read the thread I linked for you, everything is in there! Always make your own opinion!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KPOJwjo9Iw

I'll post a video to back myself up then. Get a grip just because you aren't doing too well on the class doesn't mean it sucks.

Francescolg

Nifty2g wrote: »

I'll post a video to back myself up then. Get a grip just because you aren't doing too well on the class doesn't mean it sucks.

Why you keep quoting an adivice to read a thread full of valuable opinions? Did you even read what I wrote? I never said: "I have problems with my templar"!

I said and I keep saying: Read this thread and make your own opinions about the Templar Class!

The evidence: how people really think about the class and its shortcomings, is here!
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/245184/official-feedback-thread-for-templars/p1

threefarms

Combat should consist of Backlash, Dark Flare, Dark Flare, Jesus Beam. Repeat on next opponent.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Egonieser wrote: »

Solaaris wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

its really nice in pve right now

But pants in PvP right?

Depends, stamina templars don't do so well, magicka ones if geared and specced right can be very lethal, especially now Jesus Beam is fixed again.
Dark Flare+Vampires bane quickly followed by Jesus beam drops even the tankiest of builds in a heartbeat, given that you initiate the attack first. With the CP changes to magicka trees, templar skills really got a long needed buff.
I'm talking obviously about DD specced templar (Dual wield+resto), not quite sure how utility templars fare.

Sort of depends on how fast the heartbeat is suppose. Because Dark Flare by itself takes more then a heartbeat to cast. So im not sure how Dark Flare+ vampire bane + rd would drop the tankiest of builds in a heartbeat.