Did the stam nb go extinct?

JubJub

Used to see them in the sewers and cyro everywhere is stamina just unpopular now?

PurifedBladez

Nah bro

xxslam48xxb14_ESO

I am still here...... getting blown up by viscous death..... and loathing every minute of it.

ub17_ESO

no

Skinzz

Im still stamina. Keeping it OG

Gulkrim-mur

rossvoss wrote: »

Used to see them in the sewers and cyro everywhere is stamina just unpopular now?

Im st nb and lovin it doing very well solo pve and pvping im mass group. Trials arnt to bad just cant get caught lol but im only lvl21

MoeCoastie

I dont plan on respec'ing any time soon

Farorin

I'm still stam NB, still works fine for me.

LBxFinalDeath

Stam NB still hits harder than a Magblade even if their opponent has 100 points in Hardy.

Why?

Spell damage is still more heavily mitigated by like...three other champion trees?

Magblade has to cheese hard to do as much damage as a Stamblade though and a Magblade HAS to do it from stealth.

You know what I mean...a Stamblade for example can ambush in and three shot SA you down unless you're a dergin-knight out of stealth with a couple cloaks every now and again to make their opponent's hard hitting moves miss the Stamblade.

A Magblade has to buff up and drop an ult (soul tether) and time it with prox det and sometimes follow it up with Concealed blades...everything but the CB has to be done from stealth for it to be effective.

I do see why a lot of ppl switched though, ppl on that band wagon of "Magblade can kill groups, Stamblade can't."

Magblade does feel like it instakills but it takes a lot more preparation to do something Stamblade can do without using an ult for example.

Jade1986

I still use my stam bowblade. But I prefer DKs all around. Playing a magstam tankknight hybrid atm. Works pretty well at annoying people.

WillhelmBlack

They're still the hardest hitting, there's tons left. Getting 14K Sniped left, right and centre. Our small group was showed up big time just a couple days ago by one cheeky little stamblade. Think he was only vr3, but he had tons of regeneration and hit hard as hell.

Jade1986

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

They're still the hardest hitting, there's tons left. Getting 14K Sniped left, right and centre. Our small group was showed up big time just a couple days ago by one cheeky little stamblade. Think he was only vr3, but he had tons of regeneration and hit hard as hell.

I do apologize =P. Just kidding, but thatll be me eventually on my bowblade ^^

you guys. Until that stupid only 1 faction per campaign rule is gone though, I cant play on my other characters.

MrGigglypants

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

Stam NB still hits harder than a Magblade even if their opponent has 100 points in Hardy.

Why?

Spell damage is still more heavily mitigated by like...three other champion trees?

Magblade has to cheese hard to do as much damage as a Stamblade though and a Magblade HAS to do it from stealth.

You know what I mean...a Stamblade for example can ambush in and three shot SA you down unless you're a dergin-knight out of stealth with a couple cloaks every now and again to make their opponent's hard hitting moves miss the Stamblade.

A Magblade has to buff up and drop an ult (soul tether) and time it with prox det and sometimes follow it up with Concealed blades...everything but the CB has to be done from stealth for it to be effective.

I do see why a lot of ppl switched though, ppl on that band wagon of "Magblade can kill groups, Stamblade can't."

Magblade does feel like it instakills but it takes a lot more preparation to do something Stamblade can do without using an ult for example.

Stop doing drugs. Magicka nightblade hits so hard right now in terms of burst in pvp its outrageous.

Master_Kas

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

Stam NB still hits harder than a Magblade even if their opponent has 100 points in Hardy.

Why?

Spell damage is still more heavily mitigated by like...three other champion trees?

Magblade has to cheese hard to do as much damage as a Stamblade though and a Magblade HAS to do it from stealth.

You know what I mean...a Stamblade for example can ambush in and three shot SA you down unless you're a dergin-knight out of stealth with a couple cloaks every now and again to make their opponent's hard hitting moves miss the Stamblade.

A Magblade has to buff up and drop an ult (soul tether) and time it with prox det and sometimes follow it up with Concealed blades...everything but the CB has to be done from stealth for it to be effective.

I do see why a lot of ppl switched though, ppl on that band wagon of "Magblade can kill groups, Stamblade can't."

Magblade does feel like it instakills but it takes a lot more preparation to do something Stamblade can do without using an ult for example.

Mag NB has similar singletarget burst to stam blade even in single target atm.

On top of being able to wipe groups.

My assassins will hit harder than a snipe from stealth, says alot xD

JubJub

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

Stam NB still hits harder than a Magblade even if their opponent has 100 points in Hardy.

Why?

Spell damage is still more heavily mitigated by like...three other champion trees?

Magblade has to cheese hard to do as much damage as a Stamblade though and a Magblade HAS to do it from stealth.

You know what I mean...a Stamblade for example can ambush in and three shot SA you down unless you're a dergin-knight out of stealth with a couple cloaks every now and again to make their opponent's hard hitting moves miss the Stamblade.

A Magblade has to buff up and drop an ult (soul tether) and time it with prox det and sometimes follow it up with Concealed blades...everything but the CB has to be done from stealth for it to be effective.

I do see why a lot of ppl switched though, ppl on that band wagon of "Magblade can kill groups, Stamblade can't."

Magblade does feel like it instakills but it takes a lot more preparation to do something Stamblade can do without using an ult for example.

You're right but it seems like alot of nbs switched to magicka for proxy and vd. I was walking out of dcs home base in the sewers looked down and saw no joke 5-6 proxy circles pop up, pretty lame when everyones playing the same build.

LBxFinalDeath

Well I never said Magblade can't under any circumstance do as much damage as Stamblade.

I simply said it takes a lot of preparation for Magblade to do so...while a Stamblade as I also said can just buff up with rally and be done with buffs in most cases...switch back to dual wield...then ambush in and shred their target quickly.

In order for a Magblade to do as much dmg as a Stamblade it requires potions and every buff at their disposal an ult and prox det ontop of concealed blade if it doesn't drop them...all of which has to be done from stealth in order to be as effective as possible.

It all comes down to...magic damage is heavily mitigated all around.

Races by default mitigate it due to most races' passives giving extra spell resist.

Then theres like 3 champion point tree lines that mitigate it or further buff your spell resistance which inherently is a mitigation method for nerfing magic damage done to you. (Most of which are easy choices for 99% of players since the other options tend to be useless or situational)

Stamblade just has to deal with hardy and armor resist....and most aren't going for Hardy since everyones going magic....also since everyones going light armor they have even less resist against the surprise attack spam.

imo Stamblade is the easy choice if you are a solo player who doesn't run head first into zergs, deals as much damage as magblade (technically more because of whats mentioned earlier) in pretty much half the time.


Guess you can say Stamblade is just easier to play.

I won't be shocked if you guys see Stamblade return in force since it technically should be extremely easy picking if you hit hard with physical dmg.

Master_Kas

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

Well I never said Magblade can't under any circumstance do as much damage as Stamblade.

I simply said it takes a lot of preparation for Magblade to do so...while a Stamblade as I also said can just buff up with rally and be done with buffs in most cases...switch back to dual wield...then ambush in and shred their target quickly.

In order for a Magblade to do as much dmg as a Stamblade it requires potions and every buff at their disposal an ult and prox det ontop of concealed blade if it doesn't drop them...all of which has to be done from stealth in order to be as effective as possible.

It all comes down to...magic damage is heavily mitigated all around.

Races by default mitigate it due to most races' passives giving extra spell resist.

Then theres like 3 champion point tree lines that mitigate it or further buff your spell resistance which inherently is a mitigation method for nerfing magic damage done to you. (Most of which are easy choices for 99% of players since the other options tend to be useless or situational)

Stamblade just has to deal with hardy and armor resist....and most aren't going for Hardy since everyones going magic....also since everyones going light armor they have even less resist against the surprise attack spam.

imo Stamblade is the easy choice if you are a solo player who doesn't run head first into zergs, deals as much damage as magblade (technically more because of whats mentioned earlier) in pretty much half the time.


Guess you can say Stamblade is just easier to play.

I won't be shocked if you guys see Stamblade return in force since it technically should be extremely easy picking if you hit hard with physical dmg.

Alot of wrong there.

To hit similar numbers to proxy det, VD and the ultimates of a magblade a stamblade also needs his buffs.

Those high numbers you see on Surprise attack/Snipe / Wrecking blow / Dual wield heavy attack are all prebuffed by rally, grim focus, and now probably magelight aswell for empower. Out of sneak and without buffs you won't have that high burst.

This patch I find magblade easier to play by far, and you can see that in cyrodiil how most of the nbs rolled back to magicka , proxy circles everywhere.

And since cyrodiil hardly is 1v1 encounters the magblade is better off in open world pvp imo, since you can take out multiple opponents fast compared to the stamblade which can take out one opponent fast.

Not even speaking of all ultimates scaling of elemental expert passive and not mighty. :P

EsoRecon

Still stamblade and still beasting the nubs who rerolled magblade

Jaronking

Stamblade still kicking a$$ up down and around IC and Cyrodill.I will admit am grinding up a Sorc as well.

kadar

I Stamblade.

leepalmer95

Most of my magicka character have like 25k spell resist and only around 13k physical resist.

Stam blades still hit very hard.

Strider_Roshin

Magicka is overpowered at the moment. Yes we're still around, but magicka is currently hitting harder, has by far better resource management and survivability.

I've been a Nord Stamina Nightblade since PC beta. It's what I enjoy, and I'm not planning on changing. Yes I have many other different characters, but I just enjoy this play style the most.

Lisbette

Me and Sabre Ali are still kicking ass with stam NB @sabresandiego_ESO
-Tam

DannyLV702

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Most of my magicka character have like 25k spell resist and only around 13k physical resist.

Stam blades still hit very hard.

Wtf how lol. My sorc has 12k spell resist and 7.5k physical. I still have no problem at all against stamina NBs but damn it'd be nice to have that resistance lol

kadar

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Magicka is overpowered at the moment. Yes we're still around, but magicka is currently hitting harder, has by far better resource management and survivability.

I've been a Nord Stamina Nightblade since PC beta. It's what I enjoy, and I'm not planning on changing. Yes I have many other different characters, but I just enjoy this play style the most.

Agree w/ this. Stamina Nightblade fits my personality.

EDIT: Idk if I'd say overpowered. They got buffed for sure. Maybe the good ones are OP. But there's a lot of bads. But that's all NBs I guess!

GreenSoup2HoT

Lisbette wrote: »

Me and Sabre Ali are still kicking ass with stam NB @sabresandiego_ESO
-Tam

thats cuz redguards op.

Rylana

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Magicka is overpowered at the moment. Yes we're still around, but magicka is currently hitting harder, has by far better resource management and survivability.

I've been a Nord Stamina Nightblade since PC beta. It's what I enjoy, and I'm not planning on changing. Yes I have many other different characters, but I just enjoy this play style the most.

You brave, brave, soul.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

My NB is still stamina. Not gonna lie, I thought about switching her, but I really want at least one stam character. I like the playstyle even if it is not ideal at the moment. I really wish they would hurry up and fix Crit Rush already. It is so broken at the moment. My character just twitches half the time when I cast it. I know I could run Ambush, but that would negate a lot of hours a spent grinding for my Maelstrom Greatsword which finally dropped in a good trait a few days ago. Until they fix Crit Rush, I will probably be on my Magic Sorc or Templar.

Nestor

I figure I need to use one Stamina Character in the game. My Nightblade is it.

Strider_Roshin

Rylana wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Magicka is overpowered at the moment. Yes we're still around, but magicka is currently hitting harder, has by far better resource management and survivability.

I've been a Nord Stamina Nightblade since PC beta. It's what I enjoy, and I'm not planning on changing. Yes I have many other different characters, but I just enjoy this play style the most.

You brave, brave, soul.

Lol being a Nord used to be a handicap, now I prefer it. They naturally have great survivability.

Strider_Roshin

The_Outsider wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Magicka is overpowered at the moment. Yes we're still around, but magicka is currently hitting harder, has by far better resource management and survivability.

I've been a Nord Stamina Nightblade since PC beta. It's what I enjoy, and I'm not planning on changing. Yes I have many other different characters, but I just enjoy this play style the most.

Agree w/ this. Stamina Nightblade fits my personality.

EDIT: Idk if I'd say overpowered. They got buffed for sure. Maybe the good ones are OP. But there's a lot of bads. But that's all NBs I guess!

Staves get buffed from three different champion points, several magicka abilities such as radiant destruction, puncturing sweep, proxy det, bat swarm, meteor etc. Get buffed from two champion points. Stamina abilities (with the exception of rapid strikes, and biting jabs) only get buffed by one. The reason they're overpowered is due to lazy coding. Too many abilities in this game are coded as DoTs when they're really not.