Random Dungeon Finder not working for premade groups?

ragingruby1991

Has anyone else experienced this? Last night I made a group of 4 with my guild friends and tried to place us in the random veteran dungeon and...nothing. We just sat there "queuing" for the dungeon despite the fact that we were already a premade group of 4 (all roles fulfilled: 2 dps, 1 tank, 1 healer though I don't think this would have anything to do with it). The only way we were able to run it was by queuing as a group of 3 and end up having a 4th random matched with us which means one of us would have to be left out. Is this a bug? Or is this what was intended?

If this was designed to actually work that way then that is pretty ridiculous and doesn't make any sense.

NewBlacksmurf

Did u all have in the group setting the Veteran drop down selected?

Then from there...go to the queue and select the actual Vet dungeon.

If so, then its prob an issue with ZOS

HeroOfNone

It takes 15 to 20 mins for the queue to work. I feel they put in some sort of artificial throttle to prevent rapid dungeon queuing for the random dungeons to prevent gaming or grinding. This may have been set too long though, and I believe @ZOS_GinaBruno mentioned it was going to be reduced.

ragingruby1991

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Did u all have in the group setting the Veteran drop down selected?

Then from there...go to the queue and select the actual Vet dungeon.

If so, then its prob an issue with ZOS

Yep. We all had the group setting on veteran. Our group has never had an issue with the dungeon finder before, but with the TG coming out recently we wanted to try the new random dungeon option. It just won't let us queue as a premade group of 4. We have to go in as an incomplete group for it to work.

ragingruby1991

HeroOfNone wrote: »

It takes 15 to 20 mins for the queue to work. I feel they put in some sort of artificial throttle to prevent rapid dungeon queuing for the random dungeons to prevent gaming or grinding. This may have been set too long though, and I believe @ZOS_GinaBruno mentioned it was going to be reduced.

Thank you for the info. We pulled out of the queue after 10 minutes of waiting so I guess we should have let it go further.

NewBlacksmurf

HeroOfNone wrote: »

It takes 15 to 20 mins for the queue to work. I feel they put in some sort of artificial throttle to prevent rapid dungeon queuing for the random dungeons to prevent gaming or grinding. This may have been set too long though, and I believe @ZOS_GinaBruno mentioned it was going to be reduced.

Well that is pretty much the worse decision ever considering what they hope to accomplish in the group finder.

Just my opinion...let it be instant and if you want to throttle anything, reduce the rewards or lock it to a set # per day for all involved members.

Elloa

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

HeroOfNone wrote: »

It takes 15 to 20 mins for the queue to work. I feel they put in some sort of artificial throttle to prevent rapid dungeon queuing for the random dungeons to prevent gaming or grinding. This may have been set too long though, and I believe @ZOS_GinaBruno mentioned it was going to be reduced.

Well that is pretty much the worse decision ever considering what they hope to accomplish in the group finder.

Just my opinion...let it be instant and if you want to throttle anything, reduce the rewards or lock it to a set # per day for all involved members.

Totally agree. I understand the reasoning, but i'd rather them to reduce the REWARD, as the goal of having premade group is mostly SOCIAL! the Social experience had been ruined by this decisions

HeroOfNone

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

HeroOfNone wrote: »

It takes 15 to 20 mins for the queue to work. I feel they put in some sort of artificial throttle to prevent rapid dungeon queuing for the random dungeons to prevent gaming or grinding. This may have been set too long though, and I believe @ZOS_GinaBruno mentioned it was going to be reduced.

Well that is pretty much the worse decision ever considering what they hope to accomplish in the group finder.

Just my opinion...let it be instant and if you want to throttle anything, reduce the rewards or lock it to a set # per day for all involved members.

I wouldn't give it the "worse decision ever" award, it's an inconvenience though to be sure. If it were left to rnter/leave queues quickly the random join part would lose a lot of the meaning.

I think instead though they could have instituted a cooldown after the dungeon finder gets you a dungeon. But even that could be bypassed & gamed by grouping alts and rotating in party members. But hey, can't solve all issues.

UrQuan

It's supposed to be instant when you queue with a full group. The fact that it isn't is a bug - they've got a fix that they're testing, so hopefully it will be fixed in the next incremental update.

nine9six

It's almost as if they have no idea what they're doing.

Oh, wait...

UrQuan

Thought I'd give an update here from today's ESO Live: they've got a fix for this bug and it will be in Tuesday's patch.

ragingruby1991

UrQuan wrote: »

It's supposed to be instant when you queue with a full group. The fact that it isn't is a bug - they've got a fix that they're testing, so hopefully it will be fixed in the next incremental update.

I'm curious, by "next incremental update" do you mean the Dark Brotherhood update or a pot

UrQuan wrote: »

Thought I'd give an update here from today's ESO Live: they've got a fix for this bug and it will be in Tuesday's patch.

Awesome! Thanks!

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Hi everyone! We'd like to know if you've seen any improvements in the amount of time you need to wait when joining the random dungeon finder with a fully pre-made group, since yesterday's incremental patch on PC/Mac. If you're playing on PC/Mac and have used the random dungeon finder with a full pre-made group since yesterday's patch, please let us know what your experience was like?

Thank you!

Ashtaris

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom: Not sure about the random dungeon, but a group of us queued for the Vet pledge (Banished Cells) last night just to see if the time had been reduced. It only took us about one minute to get transported into the dungeon so that was a big improvement

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Ashtaris wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom: Not sure about the random dungeon, but a group of us queued for the Vet pledge (Banished Cells) last night just to see if the time had been reduced. It only took us about one minute to get transported into the dungeon so that was a big improvement

Great, thank you @Ashtaris!

kungmoo

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom my guild ran several pre-made random dungeons last night, all took less than 15 seconds for it to pop after we entered the queue

Steel_Brightblade

Had this problem on xbox, full group ready to go, hit random dungeon, queued for nearly 10 minutes, decided to do gold as it wasn't working, just as we picked up the pledge our took us to the dungeon, pathetic and annoying really. Had the same for the gold pledge. We started the activity and it said queued so we went to the dungeon manually, a rim in it sends us to a new version if the same dungeon! Another case of breaking something that worked previously.

Alvar

PC NA last night, a group of 4 of us queued for a random normal dungeon and the timer indicated we would need to wait 35 minutes. After a minute, we dropped the queue.

kylewwefan

Is there going to be a quick patch for this issue on PS4 soon? Hopefully before the weekend

Jesh

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone! We'd like to know if you've seen any improvements in the amount of time you need to wait when joining the random dungeon finder with a fully pre-made group, since yesterday's incremental patch on PC/Mac. If you're playing on PC/Mac and have used the random dungeon finder with a full pre-made group since yesterday's patch, please let us know what your experience was like?

Thank you!

Extremely quick queuing for dungeons last night, and finding a member the night before (like under 3 minutes). Very, very quick and convenient. Have not tried queuing for Random vet with 4 man since the patch.

Thelon

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Our pc-na premade group also tested this last night with the Specific Dungeon group finder (Vet CoA)

It took 4 minutes to place us in the dungeon.

m0riarty23

We were on Xbox One last night with a pre-made 4 person group. Could not join a specific dungeon or a random. I assume this is the same bug you PC people are dealing with. I know submitting to Microsoft is a pain but i hope this can be fixed soon on the consoles as well. It pretty much stopped our gaming last night.

messiah88

Also takes 45 minutes on console for random queue with just tank and healer... should be almost instant queue... left the tank and got in a group less than a minute both times I tried...

aidenmoore

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone! We'd like to know if you've seen any improvements in the amount of time you need to wait when joining the random dungeon finder with a fully pre-made group, since yesterday's incremental patch on PC/Mac. If you're playing on PC/Mac and have used the random dungeon finder with a full pre-made group since yesterday's patch, please let us know what your experience was like?

Thank you!

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom, from my experience it still a bit wonky. Sometimes it takes up to 5 minutes or more even with premade group which consist 4 members with proper role selected. Other time, it work just fine. All in all, major improvement since the last update.

ragingruby1991

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone! We'd like to know if you've seen any improvements in the amount of time you need to wait when joining the random dungeon finder with a fully pre-made group, since yesterday's incremental patch on PC/Mac. If you're playing on PC/Mac and have used the random dungeon finder with a full pre-made group since yesterday's patch, please let us know what your experience was like?

Thank you!

Glad to know that this was worked on for PC/Mac in the incremental patch...so is their a time-frame on when it will fixed on PS4/Xbox?

NewBlacksmurf

I think this is a PC thread but in context, I hoped to share Xbox One specific grouping tools feedback.

One is just an error pop-ups screen that causes weird limitations once you try to make it go away.



The other is results of joining a reandom queue while in an existing group with my friend being offline for hours...
It seems when the group was formed, many of us had friends with us, bu the group finder didn't care how many of us would be grouped. Not sure if this is intended but, i felt it was worth giving feedback on.

Go to 25 secs and watch until 40 secs
http://gameclipscontent-d2018.xboxlive.com/0009000000158ccf-114a823a-81a4-42ad-8a29-19f7b199da33/GameClip-Original.MP4?sv=2014-02-14&sr=c&sig=yDNfQYolMI8IbpQxS2YxQq/i4c/QoqoUh7z2QZ4pCGs=&st=2016-04-01T14:56:02Z&se=2016-04-01T16:01:02Z&sp=r&__gda__=1459526462_c137b212428e5f9c85ff36ae9dc798dd

ragingruby1991

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I think this is a PC thread but in context, I hoped to share Xbox One specific grouping tools feedback.

One is just an error pop-ups screen that causes weird limitations once you try to make it go away.



The other is results of joining a reandom queue while in an existing group with my friend being offline for hours...
It seems when the group was formed, many of us had friends with us, bu the group finder didn't care how many of us would be grouped. Not sure if this is intended but, i felt it was worth giving feedback on.

Go to 25 secs and watch until 40 secs
http://gameclipscontent-d2018.xboxlive.com/0009000000158ccf-114a823a-81a4-42ad-8a29-19f7b199da33/GameClip-Original.MP4?sv=2014-02-14&sr=c&sig=yDNfQYolMI8IbpQxS2YxQq/i4c/QoqoUh7z2QZ4pCGs=&st=2016-04-01T14:56:02Z&se=2016-04-01T16:01:02Z&sp=r&__gda__=1459526462_c137b212428e5f9c85ff36ae9dc798dd

I've had that same UI error a few times on PS4.

Jesh

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone! We'd like to know if you've seen any improvements in the amount of time you need to wait when joining the random dungeon finder with a fully pre-made group, since yesterday's incremental patch on PC/Mac. If you're playing on PC/Mac and have used the random dungeon finder with a full pre-made group since yesterday's patch, please let us know what your experience was like?

Thank you!

Tested the LFG tool for Cyrodiil yesterday. It would not let me search for more party members in Alliance War. I got an error message saying members of the group had incompatible roles, which I don't really understand. Then when I tried again when I already had a large group, it said my group was too large (to search for new members). @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can you tell me how to get more members using the LFG tool in Cyrodiil?
(NA/PC/Trueflame)

MissBizz

UrQuan wrote: »

Thought I'd give an update here from today's ESO Live: they've got a fix for this bug and it will be in Tuesday's patch.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone! We'd like to know if you've seen any improvements in the amount of time you need to wait when joining the random dungeon finder with a fully pre-made group, since yesterday's incremental patch on PC/Mac. If you're playing on PC/Mac and have used the random dungeon finder with a full pre-made group since yesterday's patch, please let us know what your experience was like?

Thank you!

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom It's much faster to queue with a full premade group now! Friday night I did a ton of dungeons, with a variety of people/characters and it worked great for both Random (normal and vet) dungeons, are well as choosing (some - read below) specific dungeons.

It appears there is another problem though. I just found out queuing for a specific dungeon even with a full group would then scale everyone (fantastic!) so we were using this. Unfortunately, it does not work for the two dungeons that are a part of the Imperial City DLC.

When you select an Imperial City Dungeon - you click "Join Queue" and it just.. doesn't work. You don't enter the queue at all. We tried for both White Gold Tower and Imperial City Prison.

Other threads on the problem:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/257960/ic-dungeons-not-working
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/253274/group-finder-not-working
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/257943/bug-with-grouping-tool

Some of these comments are from March so I guess it's been around awhile, I just don't do those dungeons often.

When I was in the group - we were attempting with a full 4 man group had been doing dungeons together for the evening - so we had the right role set-up and all. As well, we did all either own the DLC or sub because we were able to manually head to the dungeon. It appears from the other posts though that queuing with any amount of people causes this problem to arise.

Devolus

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone! We'd like to know if you've seen any improvements in the amount of time you need to wait when joining the random dungeon finder with a fully pre-made group, since yesterday's incremental patch on PC/Mac. If you're playing on PC/Mac and have used the random dungeon finder with a full pre-made group since yesterday's patch, please let us know what your experience was like?

Thank you!

Just tried pre-made 4 man group, all roles set accordingly (tank, heal 2 dps) and selected Random Veteran Dungeon, been waiting in queue for 10 minutes with no pop.

Soleya

Devolus wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone! We'd like to know if you've seen any improvements in the amount of time you need to wait when joining the random dungeon finder with a fully pre-made group, since yesterday's incremental patch on PC/Mac. If you're playing on PC/Mac and have used the random dungeon finder with a full pre-made group since yesterday's patch, please let us know what your experience was like?

Thank you!

Just tried pre-made 4 man group, all roles set accordingly (tank, heal 2 dps) and selected Random Veteran Dungeon, been waiting in queue for 10 minutes with no pop.

Similar issue today, took 10-12 minutes to get it to start the dungeon.