Zerg Busters? You mean Zerg enhancers?

Some_Guy

Has anyone done a post about how the "zerg busting" stuff (Magicka Detonation and Vicious Death) is being used by the zergs to zerg the lesser zergs in a more zergy fashion?
While we're at it.... I thought ZOS's aim was to try to push players away from zerging up on one campaign.... and now we have less campaigns... 2+2=purple.
Well then, back to my zerg.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Thought proxy det was proof enough that any "zerg buster" idea ZOS comes up with will become zergs greatest weapon.

Skinzz

Yup pvp will be ruined for console in the next update. Zergball groups will be even stronger/annoying.

phillyboy7897

They're gonna die on ps4 na. Not 100% sure how but it ain't gonna happen to ps4 na. Unless its too much lag

OGNZ3

xskinzcity wrote: »

Yup pvp will be ruined for console in the next update. Zergball groups will be even stronger/annoying.

PvP is already ruined by zergs on consoles. Too much lag, too much people at the same place.
" i zerg bcoz i want my AR 50 to show you im a boss "

Duiwel

Not entirely true OP, while this was expected ( did you think allowing this in the game the zergs would go : "Oh look a powerful way to kill a ton of players, better not use it..." )

However Lefty Lucy did a nice compilation of zerg bombs and that shows how effectively these can be used to kill groups that vastly outnumber your own. So they are working as intended just don't ball stack & all will be well in the world.

GreenSoup2HoT

phillyboy7897 wrote: »

They're gonna die on ps4 na. Not 100% sure how but it ain't gonna happen to ps4 na. Unless its too much lag

It will happen. Their are already group's running around with proxi like thats the only thing they know how to use.

The good thing is, siege is strong. So i'll be pulling them out as my counter to proxi. Also purge and barrier got a player cap of 6 player's. Which will help a lot.

AshTal

I agree all we have done is move the spamming of steel tornado to Prox Det and vicious death.

They should lower the damage on caster centre abilities.

Mr_Nobody

So you are not happy with an ability to solo/smallman defend keeps from large groups?

Is that what you are trying to say? else I don't get whats your point of this QQ. You are not happy because u are with a zerg group, and enemy zerg group outplayed and bombed you down?

Really?

DHale

It amazes me how ppl won't even try stuff before complaining or qq ing or asking for nerfs. Our small groups of 8 to 9 players utterly destroy larger groups now. We slammed into 24 plus on a flag they quite literally melted. Haderus Alessia farm then we went in the tower. Every one who came in grouped killed their own friends. We with nine ppl held it for over 20 minutes. We left after they were farmed and no longer worth anything. Sign me up I will be back with more tomorrow. Love these new Zerg busting tools.

rfennell_ESO

Just because it's not a zerg ball group doesn't make it not a zerg.

Strider_Roshin

There will always be zergs because that's how the majority of people like to PvP. Maybe one day ZOS will give players what they've been asking for since PC launch, and that's duels and battlegrounds. Then the people who like to zerg can continue to do so, and the small scale PvPers can have their battlegrounds, and the duelers can have their duels. Until then a good bit of the PvP population is going to continue to be pissed.

NBrookus

Zerg-busting it may be, but VD is killing small groups, too, and most of the zerg groups are farming AP way faster than the small groups can. They are all going to be geared up way sooner. If 50 enemy zerg comes at 6 of us that are loosely spaced and suddenly I'm dead because of VD... well it wasn't the zerg that was busted, they just rolled over us faster.

The nerf to this set can't come soon enough.

Xsorus

NBrookus wrote: »

Zerg-busting it may be, but VD is killing small groups, too, and most of the zerg groups are farming AP way faster than the small groups can. They are all going to be geared up way sooner. If 50 enemy zerg comes at 6 of us that are loosely spaced and suddenly I'm dead because of VD... well it wasn't the zerg that was busted, they just rolled over us faster.

The nerf to this set can't come soon enough.

Your point makes zero sense

If a 50 man Zerg comes at your 6; you were dead either with VD or without... VD just gives you the option to kill a large portion of that 50

NBrookus

Xsorus wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Zerg-busting it may be, but VD is killing small groups, too, and most of the zerg groups are farming AP way faster than the small groups can. They are all going to be geared up way sooner. If 50 enemy zerg comes at 6 of us that are loosely spaced and suddenly I'm dead because of VD... well it wasn't the zerg that was busted, they just rolled over us faster.

The nerf to this set can't come soon enough.

Your point makes zero sense

If a 50 man Zerg comes at your 6; you were dead either with VD or without... VD just gives you the option to kill a large portion of that 50

As I said, they rolled over us faster. Gosh, wasn't that fight fun?

As for me, I've seen two pieces of VD in my RFTW. Both were greatswords. I'm guessing at the rate RNG is handing me wacky set pieces I'll have VD long after something else is the meta.

Xsorus

NBrookus wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Zerg-busting it may be, but VD is killing small groups, too, and most of the zerg groups are farming AP way faster than the small groups can. They are all going to be geared up way sooner. If 50 enemy zerg comes at 6 of us that are loosely spaced and suddenly I'm dead because of VD... well it wasn't the zerg that was busted, they just rolled over us faster.

The nerf to this set can't come soon enough.

Your point makes zero sense

If a 50 man Zerg comes at your 6; you were dead either with VD or without... VD just gives you the option to kill a large portion of that 50

As I said, they rolled over us faster. Gosh, wasn't that fight fun?

As for me, I've seen two pieces of VD in my RFTW. Both were greatswords. I'm guessing at the rate RNG is handing me wacky set pieces I'll have VD long after something else is the meta.

I mean... They rolled over you faster really matters how exactly? You were dead either way... You now have the option to take out that Zerg fairly quickly though if they are stacked

As for VD.. Just go buy it... I bought 3 armor pieces and 2 swords for like 50k a piece.

Mr_Nobody

NBrookus wrote: »

Zerg-busting it may be, but VD is killing small groups, too, and most of the zerg groups are farming AP way faster than the small groups can. They are all going to be geared up way sooner. If 50 enemy zerg comes at 6 of us that are loosely spaced and suddenly I'm dead because of VD... well it wasn't the zerg that was busted, they just rolled over us faster.

The nerf to this set can't come soon enough.

That's why I am 15th~ or something on DC, Trueflame NA. Solo, mostly 2-4 hrs four days a week during non-prime time US hours.

No, zerg ball groups do not farm AP faster.

TheDarkShadow

Without VD, the blob raid would still roll over you and kill you anyway. have someone with a frost staff or some kind of range cc, and they could easily catch you and swallow you into that AoE blob. But with VD, at least we have a chance now. Actually with VD and easier-to-get Magicka Det, I see blob farm group is A LOTS easier to break now.

Airyus

Zergs make way less ap than smaller groups.

Just sayin. If that's your thing...

KisoValley

NBrookus wrote: »

Zerg-busting it may be, but VD is killing small groups, too, and most of the zerg groups are farming AP way faster than the small groups can. They are all going to be geared up way sooner. If 50 enemy zerg comes at 6 of us that are loosely spaced and suddenly I'm dead because of VD... well it wasn't the zerg that was busted, they just rolled over us faster.

The nerf to this set can't come soon enough.

Makes zero sense because you're dead either way as someone else said. Now you have an option to kill a few. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if you're actually a guy who runs in a zerg and are making up excuses to try make VD look bad.

bowmanz607

Ya but now there are tools to handle zergs. Previously there were none.