Relearning the Ropes - Any Help?

ThePonzzz

With the introduction to the Thieves' Guild, I feel the stamina changes that came with it have stunted my play style. I'm okay with overworld PvE play, but group dungeons and PvP have been altered so greatly that I'm left relearning what to do. The biggest issue is stamina regen. I'm sitting at 1700 stamina regen, but the loss of siphoning attacks, the additions of no stamina recovery while sprinting/sneaking... I dunno. I feel like my entire build is neutered right now. I'm also noticing people seem immune to my attacks. I hit someone 5 times with surprise attack, and they took no damage. AUI reported no damage being dealt. It was just odd.

Prior to the update, I was sitting around 16k DPS. Now I can maintain 16k DPS for maybe 3 attacks, and then I'm tapped on stamina. And it's not coming back much in combat, even without the siphoning attacks crutch that I apparently was using. I can't go stealth with my build much (just that initial burst damage), due to DOTs.

I dunno, I just feel at a loss on it. I went from being able to solo PvP content, to not being able to sustain 1x1 fights. And I'm not on Azura's, so it's not like my Champion Points are nil or anything like that.

kadar

Seems like you're having 2 different problems there. PvE and PvP are 2 different animals that deserve 2 different approaches. For group dungeons and raids you should be able to get away with much lower regen than that with Siphoning + a templar in group. For Pvp I actually like to run with a bit more regen than that. Like 2100-2300.

Are you roll dodging too much in PVP perhaps?

DHale

Also are you blocking a lot this was also nerfed. There is no Stam gen when you block. The 4 pcs. morukulin and four pcs shield breaker are great the shadow Mundus stone for Stam regen seven medium armor. Use two hander look at passive regarding Stam regen. All divines might be to your advanantage at least for pve. The new marksman set is also an interesting set. Maybe a blood spawn shoulder. Put armor glyphs in Stam and run one cost reduction on jewelry. The agility set rings an necklace are kind of must haves at this point in game and the green tree of the cp system. Lastly is potion alchemy leveled and do you have three skill points into medicinal use. Lastly, do you run shuffle? Hope this helps.

GreenSoup2HoT

I'd recommend using Rapid Manuvers back bar and Radiant Mage Light on your main bar.

My survivalbility has gone up tons. I never get locked down anymore. As long as i keep my hp high and cloak effectivly i can escape.

The stamina sneak thing is a pain in the butt though. I may need to use my old v14 shadowwalker in the mean time since sneaking is a huge part of my playstyle. Im a vampire.

Since everyone seems to be going magicka, shield breaker has become amazing for me also. I use 7 impen traits with it, helps a lot.

Also i hardly animation cancel because it messes with your regen. Watch your roll dodges too. No matter what if i roll dodge 1 or two times i cloak after.

I use dw main bar, 2h buff bar. I use disease and shock enchants on my dw. 15% healing debuff and 10% damage debuff when i heavy attack is nice. I also get a slight chance when my targets at low hp to execute with combustion from shock enchant.

Its a unique build in my eyes but i dont mind sharing how i play. This is more of a sustain build then raw damage but it works wonders for me.

Hopefully this helps.

ThePonzzz

So... I feel like a dolt here. After taking about a 10 day break, I came back to try things out again. I started another thread asking for some advice. Looks like my mundus effects were removed. That played a big part in not having the offensive power I had (I use Twice-Born Star). So that solved a lot there.