ZOS why did you mess up clouding swarm?

Master_Kas

About 1 sec delay before you turn invisible.

People still able to target and hit you mid swarm (without using magelight or detect pots)

Is this a bug? Or intended/ninjanerf?

Junipus

You don't use soul tether exclusively? L2NB


But yes, they did a *** up in this patch which they haven't commented on afaik. Check the 'official' bug thread and it's been reported there

Master_Kas

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

You don't use soul tether exclusively? L2NB


But yes, they did a *** up in this patch which they haven't commented on afaik. Check the 'official' bug thread and it's been reported there

I do use soultether now that Clouding is wierd.

I did however rely alot on clouding swarm to get my 20% spell/weapdmg since I'm a bosmer. Without it I feel gimped QQ

Wollust

Yesterday, I jesus beamed a NB in clouding batswarm thanks to tabtarget.
I felt so dirty.

I don't understand how they can break stuff like this. I really don't. It's just so frustrating.

Knootewoot

I had this issue a few times before the patch. I would do clouding swarm. On my screen i would still see my toon and people could just attack me with single target attacks.

Master_Kas

Wollust wrote: »

Yesterday, I jesus beamed a NB in clouding batswarm thanks to tabtarget.
I felt so dirty.

I don't understand how they can break stuff like this. I really don't. It's just so frustrating.

Did it today aswell. Midswarm on a poor nightblade I used heavy resto attack on him, breaking his swarm sometimes xD

Knootewoot wrote: »

I had this issue a few times before the patch. I would do clouding swarm. On my screen i would still see my toon and people could just attack me with single target attacks.

Really annoying


@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Anything about this? Please don't let it go unchecked like so many other things. This is basiclly the main reason to even use vampire with all its drawbacks.

Mumyo

When i jab into clouding swarm, i can see their healthbars xD

TBois

Just commenting that I'm experiencing the same since it won't get traction unless enough people mention it

Jhunn

Just posting this from @ZOS_GinaBruno here. Seems they don't know what they messed up?

1. Clouding Swarm stealth functionality is buggy. The animations changed and your char disappears after ~1 second. When you're revealed by flare, inner light, mark (and I think detect pot as well) you can't see your char but the enemies can, so you actually don't know whether you are invisible to your enemies or not. Finally and probably the worst, if you tab target somebody you can still target him even if he uses clouding swarm without any revealing skill. We weren’t able to reproduce this issue, unfortunately. Do you guys have any additional information that may help?

mchermie

Yes, this has to be fixed

TBois

It's like whatever version they work on for new patches is like some buggy version from 2012.

RoamingRiverElk

Indeed, fix Clouding Swarm. And buff vampirism.

HoloYoitsu

Astounded from Gina's reply, if you want a fix to any of it you're gona need to make a video showing it clearly. Basically, you have to do the documented QA for them.

Kr3do

Clearly a learn2play issue.

mchermie

Is this fixed?

DannyLV702

mchermie wrote: »

Is this fixed?

Yes

KenaPKK

Is this really fixed on PC/NA, or is the console guy above me just on the previous patch?

Master_Kas

mchermie wrote: »

Is this fixed?

KenaPKK wrote: »

Is this really fixed on PC/NA, or is the console guy above me just on the previous patch?

On EU PC it isn't :P I am now a wolfie spamming lightattacks with 2x molag kena.

Rakshat

Dang, I wish I had read this thread before I switched to clouding swarm last night T.T

Dalglish

Who are the people that 'cannot reproduce' these bugs, do they actually have a copy of the game at hand?

Half the stuff (I'm being generous with half) that gets brought up very early in PTS never gets fixed.

olsborg

Can target people the whole time they are in swarm...bugged.

Vaoh

It is not just that. Clouding Swarm seems to break invisibility for like 0.5sec at a time randomly throughout the duration. Many times when someone activates Clouding Swarm and then uses a gap closer on me, their alliance icon becomes visible for a bit and I can attack. Doesn't feel very fair.

Jhunn wrote: »

Just posting this from @ZOS_GinaBruno here. Seems they don't know what they messed up?

1. Clouding Swarm stealth functionality is buggy. The animations changed and your char disappears after ~1 second. When you're revealed by flare, inner light, mark (and I think detect pot as well) you can't see your char but the enemies can, so you actually don't know whether you are invisible to your enemies or not. Finally and probably the worst, if you tab target somebody you can still target him even if he uses clouding swarm without any revealing skill. We weren’t able to reproduce this issue, unfortunately. Do you guys have any additional information that may help?

Same response to the Shuffle exploit. "Hey guys we couldn't figure it out within 10min on our internal lagless server. Therefore it isn't real. Thanks for your complaints though lol!"

I gave them some very solid info on the bug (as others have done) and they can't figure it out. I want to see how they test these things. Is it a matter of incompetence in reproducing simple steps or they know but don't know how to fix it?

TBois

Pls fix this ZOS. I went to devouring swarm, then tried ww, now back to devouring, but I miss the old clouding swarm soo much.

Van_0S

Doncellius wrote: »

It is not just that. Clouding Swarm seems to break invisibility for like 0.5sec at a time randomly throughout the duration. Many times when someone activates Clouding Swarm and then uses a gap closer on me, their alliance icon becomes visible for a bit and I can attack. Doesn't feel very fair.

Jhunn wrote: »

Just posting this from @ZOS_GinaBruno here. Seems they don't know what they messed up?

1. Clouding Swarm stealth functionality is buggy. The animations changed and your char disappears after ~1 second. When you're revealed by flare, inner light, mark (and I think detect pot as well) you can't see your char but the enemies can, so you actually don't know whether you are invisible to your enemies or not. Finally and probably the worst, if you tab target somebody you can still target him even if he uses clouding swarm without any revealing skill. We weren’t able to reproduce this issue, unfortunately. Do you guys have any additional information that may help?

Same response to the Shuffle exploit. "Hey guys we couldn't figure it out within 10min on our internal lagless server. Therefore it isn't real. Thanks for your complaints though lol!"

I gave them some very solid info on the bug (as others have done) and they can't figure it out. I want to see how they test these things. Is it a matter of incompetence in reproducing simple steps or they know but don't know how to fix it?

This ^^

Erondil

Any NA guy tested clouding swarm on PTS? Is it still buged af?
On templates vamp is not leveled

Master_Kas

Erondil wrote: »

Any NA guy tested clouding swarm on PTS? Is it still buged af?
On templates vamp is not leveled

Nothing in the patchnotes so I guess they are still looking into it, like for example with the willows path + regen drinks