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Barrier Morphs
Starshadw
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Dear ZOS folks:
With the change to Barrier, the "Replenishing Barrier" morph is pretty much useless now (the only reason to choose it over the one with the heal was because if you hit a large group, you gained a lot of Ult back as the barriers dissolved). I suggest re-thinking and coming up with a different morph of some kind. Perhaps replace with a morph that has a larger barrier, since the other morph also heals?
With the change to Barrier, the "Replenishing Barrier" morph is pretty much useless now (the only reason to choose it over the one with the heal was because if you hit a large group, you gained a lot of Ult back as the barriers dissolved). I suggest re-thinking and coming up with a different morph of some kind. Perhaps replace with a morph that has a larger barrier, since the other morph also heals?
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Zheg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Barrier is done. The meta is pure burst, get yours off first or die. It's better to put the barrier person on meteor, unfortunately.1 -
dantator✭✭✭Barrier is done. The meta is pure burst, get yours off first or die. It's better to put the barrier person on meteor, unfortunately.
This is not bashing or hatred but I'd say VE took the biggest hit when it comes to the barrier nerf. Oh god, I remember us fighting you guys in 1.6 and holy *** the barrier spam... haha. I vividly remember this one fight we had in one of our keeps (I still have the clip). Dude, I swear throughout that whole fight you guys didn't even use one ulti other than barrier. Like *** man... hahaha It seemed like you guys had 1 or 2 healers in the the group and the rest were stamina builds spamming steel tornado and I swear on my jar of nutella you guys had a barrier up the whole fight.
So, I could imagine VE this update. It must be rough. Oh and the rapid nerf hahaha yeah...Edited by dantator on March 15, 2016 5:23PM+Divine Force+
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Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Barrier is done. The meta is pure burst, get yours off first or die. It's better to put the barrier person on meteor, unfortunately.
This is not bashing or hatred but I'd say VE took the biggest hit when it comes to the barrier nerf. Oh god, I remember us fighting you guys in 1.6 and holy *** the barrier spam... haha. I vividly remember this one fight we had in one of our keeps (I still have the clip). Dude, I swear throughout that whole fight you guys didn't even use one ulti other than barrier. Like *** man... hahaha It seemed like you guys had 1 or 2 healers in the the group and the rest were stamina builds spamming steel tornado and I swear on my jar of nutella you guys had a barrier up the whole fight.
So, I could imagine VE this update. It must be rough. Oh and the rapid nerf hahaha yeah...
We just moved to burst. Vicious Death and 20 meteors is a terrible, wonderful thing.
Speed def hit us hard, we were a mobile group from the get go.Edited by Satiar on March 15, 2016 5:26PMVehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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dantator✭✭✭Barrier is done. The meta is pure burst, get yours off first or die. It's better to put the barrier person on meteor, unfortunately.
This is not bashing or hatred but I'd say VE took the biggest hit when it comes to the barrier nerf. Oh god, I remember us fighting you guys in 1.6 and holy *** the barrier spam... haha. I vividly remember this one fight we had in one of our keeps (I still have the clip). Dude, I swear throughout that whole fight you guys didn't even use one ulti other than barrier. Like *** man... hahaha It seemed like you guys had 1 or 2 healers in the the group and the rest were stamina builds spamming steel tornado and I swear on my jar of nutella you guys had a barrier up the whole fight.
So, I could imagine VE this update. It must be rough. Oh and the rapid nerf hahaha yeah...
We just moved to burst. Vicious Death and 20 meteors is a terrible, wonderful thing.
Speed def hit us hard, we were a mobile group from the get go.
Yeah, the new meta is obvious and I'm sure everyone saw it coming. I have to say less mobility is a huge issue for smaller groups. Mobility is a key when it comes to strategy. Even when soloing mobility is crucial. God, all the damn snares and CCs are so damn annoying...+Divine Force+
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Zheg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Barrier is done. The meta is pure burst, get yours off first or die. It's better to put the barrier person on meteor, unfortunately.
This is not bashing or hatred but I'd say VE took the biggest hit when it comes to the barrier nerf. Oh god, I remember us fighting you guys in 1.6 and holy *** the barrier spam... haha. I vividly remember this one fight we had in one of our keeps (I still have the clip). Dude, I swear throughout that whole fight you guys didn't even use one ulti other than barrier. Like *** man... hahaha It seemed like you guys had 1 or 2 healers in the the group and they rest were stamina builds spamming steel tornado and I swear my jar of nutella you guys had a barrier up the whole fight.
So, I could imagine VE this update. It must be rough. Oh and the rapid nerf hahaha yeah...
Healers ran barrier, on occasion we'd put a sorc or nb on it if we were short healers. We were also heavier on magicka than most even when stam was king, so if you'd like to link the vid, I'm sure I could point out your exaggerations.
As for the patch, we've already mostly adjusted. There's nothing quite like the stupid burst of 20 meteors being unloaded, as was predicted. We will be running cheese builds with cheese skills for a cheese meta. The game was more diversified in previous patches imo.1 -
dantator✭✭✭Barrier is done. The meta is pure burst, get yours off first or die. It's better to put the barrier person on meteor, unfortunately.
This is not bashing or hatred but I'd say VE took the biggest hit when it comes to the barrier nerf. Oh god, I remember us fighting you guys in 1.6 and holy *** the barrier spam... haha. I vividly remember this one fight we had in one of our keeps (I still have the clip). Dude, I swear throughout that whole fight you guys didn't even use one ulti other than barrier. Like *** man... hahaha It seemed like you guys had 1 or 2 healers in the the group and they rest were stamina builds spamming steel tornado and I swear my jar of nutella you guys had a barrier up the whole fight.
So, I could imagine VE this update. It must be rough. Oh and the rapid nerf hahaha yeah...
Healers ran barrier, on occasion we'd put a sorc or nb on it if we were short healers. We were also heavier on magicka than most even when stam was king, so if you'd like to link the vid, I'm sure I could point out your exaggerations.
As for the patch, we've already mostly adjusted. There's nothing quite like the stupid burst of 20 meteors being unloaded, as was predicted. We will be running cheese builds with cheese skills for a cheese meta. The game was more diversified in previous patches imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFXC19DRlfg
The fight at 1:30. I edited it to the end part of the fight. I still might have the full clip somewhere on my PC. In Divines, I was lucky to get at least 1 or 2 steel tornado spammers back in 1.6. We always lacked stamina builds in 1.6 and majority of the time we would only have one or none steel tornado spammers. Plus, majority of our fights, we were outnumbered.+Divine Force+
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dantator✭✭✭Plus, when I lead, I didn't rely on a lot of barriers. Usually we had like 1 or 2 barrier users.+Divine Force+
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Zheg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Barrier is done. The meta is pure burst, get yours off first or die. It's better to put the barrier person on meteor, unfortunately.
This is not bashing or hatred but I'd say VE took the biggest hit when it comes to the barrier nerf. Oh god, I remember us fighting you guys in 1.6 and holy *** the barrier spam... haha. I vividly remember this one fight we had in one of our keeps (I still have the clip). Dude, I swear throughout that whole fight you guys didn't even use one ulti other than barrier. Like *** man... hahaha It seemed like you guys had 1 or 2 healers in the the group and they rest were stamina builds spamming steel tornado and I swear my jar of nutella you guys had a barrier up the whole fight.
So, I could imagine VE this update. It must be rough. Oh and the rapid nerf hahaha yeah...
Healers ran barrier, on occasion we'd put a sorc or nb on it if we were short healers. We were also heavier on magicka than most even when stam was king, so if you'd like to link the vid, I'm sure I could point out your exaggerations.
As for the patch, we've already mostly adjusted. There's nothing quite like the stupid burst of 20 meteors being unloaded, as was predicted. We will be running cheese builds with cheese skills for a cheese meta. The game was more diversified in previous patches imo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFXC19DRlfg
The fight at 1:30. I edited it to the end part of the fight. I still might have the full clip somewhere on my PC. In Divines, I was lucky to get at least 1 or 2 steel tornado spammers back in 1.6. We always lacked stamina builds in 1.6 and majority of the time we would only have one or none steel tornado spammers. Plus, majority of our fights, we were outnumbered.
V14? Wow o.O
Without combat logs shown it's hard to tell exactly what's hitting you, but I can already call BS on your barrier claim if you were to simply look at the alliance ranks of the people you're fighting - barrier isn't even unlocked at most of those ranks
When VE switched to blue, books and myself were literally the only barriers at first because we were native DC and had the alliance ranks already. There were even non v14's in that group. So... as I said I would, I pointed out your exaggerations.Edited by Zheg on March 15, 2016 5:49PM1 -
allen-iverson✭✭✭we still have rapids up constantly thanks to speed monkeys such as myself!*Marcel Rigmond voice* "Filthy casual."
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Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Oh geez did he post a video of our post reroll groups? For reals?Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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dantator✭✭✭Barrier is done. The meta is pure burst, get yours off first or die. It's better to put the barrier person on meteor, unfortunately.
This is not bashing or hatred but I'd say VE took the biggest hit when it comes to the barrier nerf. Oh god, I remember us fighting you guys in 1.6 and holy *** the barrier spam... haha. I vividly remember this one fight we had in one of our keeps (I still have the clip). Dude, I swear throughout that whole fight you guys didn't even use one ulti other than barrier. Like *** man... hahaha It seemed like you guys had 1 or 2 healers in the the group and they rest were stamina builds spamming steel tornado and I swear my jar of nutella you guys had a barrier up the whole fight.
So, I could imagine VE this update. It must be rough. Oh and the rapid nerf hahaha yeah...
Healers ran barrier, on occasion we'd put a sorc or nb on it if we were short healers. We were also heavier on magicka than most even when stam was king, so if you'd like to link the vid, I'm sure I could point out your exaggerations.
As for the patch, we've already mostly adjusted. There's nothing quite like the stupid burst of 20 meteors being unloaded, as was predicted. We will be running cheese builds with cheese skills for a cheese meta. The game was more diversified in previous patches imo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFXC19DRlfg
The fight at 1:30. I edited it to the end part of the fight. I still might have the full clip somewhere on my PC. In Divines, I was lucky to get at least 1 or 2 steel tornado spammers back in 1.6. We always lacked stamina builds in 1.6 and majority of the time we would only have one or none steel tornado spammers. Plus, majority of our fights, we were outnumbered.
V14? Wow o.O
Without combat logs shown it's hard to tell exactly what's hitting you, but I can already call BS on your barrier claim if you were to simply look at the alliance ranks of the people you're fighting - barrier isn't even unlocked at most of those ranks
When VE switched to blue, books and myself were literally the only barriers at first because we were native DC and had the alliance ranks already. There were even non v14's in that group. So... as I said I would, I pointed out your exaggerations.
I see a good amount of vr14s in the group. Like I said I edited the video. You guys had more people in the group. We chipped away your group and it seemed like you guys didn't do a good job going for the rez. I'm assuming you guys wanted to force cap the keep. If you want I can edit the video for you two and we can all watch it. I've watched it like a billion (that billion is a clear exaggeration) times and I was in the fight so I stand firm on what I said. Obviously, everyone exaggerates and clearly I did in the first comment but for the most part it was true that you guys had a barrier up almost whole fight. You should of heard us in the ts, "oh, another barrier..."+Divine Force+
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Zheg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Barrier is done. The meta is pure burst, get yours off first or die. It's better to put the barrier person on meteor, unfortunately.
This is not bashing or hatred but I'd say VE took the biggest hit when it comes to the barrier nerf. Oh god, I remember us fighting you guys in 1.6 and holy *** the barrier spam... haha. I vividly remember this one fight we had in one of our keeps (I still have the clip). Dude, I swear throughout that whole fight you guys didn't even use one ulti other than barrier. Like *** man... hahaha It seemed like you guys had 1 or 2 healers in the the group and they rest were stamina builds spamming steel tornado and I swear my jar of nutella you guys had a barrier up the whole fight.
So, I could imagine VE this update. It must be rough. Oh and the rapid nerf hahaha yeah...
Healers ran barrier, on occasion we'd put a sorc or nb on it if we were short healers. We were also heavier on magicka than most even when stam was king, so if you'd like to link the vid, I'm sure I could point out your exaggerations.
As for the patch, we've already mostly adjusted. There's nothing quite like the stupid burst of 20 meteors being unloaded, as was predicted. We will be running cheese builds with cheese skills for a cheese meta. The game was more diversified in previous patches imo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFXC19DRlfg
The fight at 1:30. I edited it to the end part of the fight. I still might have the full clip somewhere on my PC. In Divines, I was lucky to get at least 1 or 2 steel tornado spammers back in 1.6. We always lacked stamina builds in 1.6 and majority of the time we would only have one or none steel tornado spammers. Plus, majority of our fights, we were outnumbered.
V14? Wow o.O
Without combat logs shown it's hard to tell exactly what's hitting you, but I can already call BS on your barrier claim if you were to simply look at the alliance ranks of the people you're fighting - barrier isn't even unlocked at most of those ranks
When VE switched to blue, books and myself were literally the only barriers at first because we were native DC and had the alliance ranks already. There were even non v14's in that group. So... as I said I would, I pointed out your exaggerations.
I see a good amount of vr14s in the group. Like I said I edited the video. You guys had more people in the group. We chipped away your group and it seemed like you guys didn't do a good job going for the rez. I'm assuming you guys wanted to force cap the keep. If you want I can edit the video for you two and we can all watch it. I've watched it like a billion (that billion is a clear exaggeration) times and I was in the fight so I stand firm on what I said. Obviously, everyone exaggerates and clearly I did in the first comment but for the most part it was true that you guys had a barrier up almost whole fight. You should of heard us in the ts, "oh, another barrier..."
I'm picturing some guy staring at 20 year old yearbooks IRL. Why would anyone watch a pvp video like that over and over? A few times if you wipe to figure out what went wrong maybe, but ... I just feel awkward now.
Bulb was one of the first to unlock barrier in the guild (from the old reds) and looking at his rank he either still hadn't unlocked it or had just unlocked it (I forget what all those sergeant ranks end up being in relation to alliance rank 6), so if you'd like, go ahead and give me the full fight, it still won't matter.0 -
_Chaos✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'd say we took the biggest hit for the sole fact that we were the best at rotating it and not double popping. Communication was always a huge part of our healers. Props to the heals since the reroll. I had more than my fair share of "LEGACY BARRIER" on EP. Good Riddance!
Much more fun than this meta though
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Starshadw✭✭✭✭Plus, when I lead, I didn't rely on a lot of barriers. Usually we had like 1 or 2 barrier users.
Yeah, that was the norm for the groups I ran in.
My post was specifically about the fact that Replenishing Barrier is worthless now with the change. Previously, if your barrier hit a large number of people, Replenishing was nice because you gained back a lot of ult as the barriers fell. Now? It's an extremely lacking morph.1