PvP in Trueflame after Thieves guild update

PrinceFabious

Is the same as before!
http://imgur.com/0Vt1wUB

Husan

Same in EU. Arrius lumber the most important strategic point in Cyrodiil. It's imperative for the blues/yellows to capture that resource and siege arrius at all times, even if they don't own their own keeps.

I also recall that in Azuras star, EU, there were several times (I've seen it 5 times when I was online myself, who knows how many times they have done it) a prominent blue guild took kingscrest and a prominent yellow guild took farragut at the same time, as if they had some sort of a pact going on.

It's a fact that EP is the most hated alliance, so these things are just natural for them. I don't think they really have a pact going on, I think they don't even realise they are teaming up and are instead just both in a frenzy to fight "zergling reds", often unaware they don't even own their home keeps or that it would maybe be a better idea to dethrone the opposite factions emperor first.

Master_Kas

Husan wrote: »

Same in EU. Arrius lumber the most important strategic point in Cyrodiil. It's imperative for the blues/yellows to capture that resource and siege arrius at all times, even if they don't own their own keeps.

I also recall that in Azuras star, EU, there were several times (I've seen it 5 times when I was online myself, who knows how many times they have done it) a prominent blue guild took kingscrest and a prominent yellow guild took farragut at the same time, as if they had some sort of a pact going on.

It's a fact that EP is the most hated alliance, so these things are just natural for them. I don't know if they even realise they are teaming up and are instead just both in a frenzy to fight "zergling reds", often unaware they don't even own their home keeps or that it would maybe be a better idea to dethrone the opposite factions emperor first.

Atm trueflame is very blue but its early. Seems alot more people left this game since this new update xD

Husan

Master_Kas wrote: »

Husan wrote: »

Same in EU. Arrius lumber the most important strategic point in Cyrodiil. It's imperative for the blues/yellows to capture that resource and siege arrius at all times, even if they don't own their own keeps.

I also recall that in Azuras star, EU, there were several times (I've seen it 5 times when I was online myself, who knows how many times they have done it) a prominent blue guild took kingscrest and a prominent yellow guild took farragut at the same time, as if they had some sort of a pact going on.

It's a fact that EP is the most hated alliance, so these things are just natural for them. I don't know if they even realise they are teaming up and are instead just both in a frenzy to fight "zergling reds", often unaware they don't even own their home keeps or that it would maybe be a better idea to dethrone the opposite factions emperor first.

Atm trueflame is very blue but its early. Seems alot more people left this game since this new update xD

I tried it yesterday. After seeing it's normal for proxy det to still hit for ~13k dmg on single target and my empowering sweep COMPLETELY MISSING my opponents 3 times in a row I realised they fixed nothing. Expect even more players to leave. Such a shame, this game could be the best.

PrinceFabious

I think has it to do with the fact that the only popular streamers play AD/DC.

Chelos

It's a bit lame that a lot of players seem to rather join the strong fractions than join the weaker ones where they can actually make a difference.
I'm all EP now and have deleted all the other fraction chars.
It's quite a challenge to go against the green (blue/yellow) coalition but more fun than just be one of the raging mob.

RinaldoGandolphi

I have been blue from the start, im one of the OG DC and im staying that way. I just can't level another toon...not until the Vet Ranks are gone.

As for Proxy Det, my Proxy Det does more damage now then it did last update to a single target...the minute i saw duels on the PTS with Proxy Det as a single target skill i knew the changes would solve nothing.....i simply logged and didn't even both doing any test duels...no point really...its the same old same old with that skill.

Master_Kas

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

I have been blue from the start, im one of the OG DC and im staying that way. I just can't level another toon...not until the Vet Ranks are gone.

As for Proxy Det, my Proxy Det does more damage now then it did last update to a single target...the minute i saw duels on the PTS with Proxy Det as a single target skill i knew the changes would solve nothing.....i simply logged and didn't even both doing any test duels...no point really...its the same old same old with that skill.

Proxy det does less damage now to single targets compared to last patch. If you are within range of other people then it does higher damage.

KenaPKK

And waking up every morning is the same as always too.



Edit: oh look, there go our scrolls.

Mumyo

I tell you what my pvp look like now.

Crash
fight
crash
fight
crash

I am literally just writing this because i just crashed xD

Mumyo

Look at the timeline, i just crashed again

Mumyo

been 4 minutes

Master_Kas

Mumyo wrote: »

been 4 minutes

I just crashed too. RIP

Durham

This ability magicka det....has almost completely ruined the game for me... I do not care what anyone says it still hits way to hard on single target.... A sorcerer last night dueling me casts it on me hitting me for 10k+ .... also Magicka Night Blades hitting just as hard....

All you see is red circles everywhere... this should have been fixed in this patch. ..

AbraXuSeXile

Last night for me was like this

Started group around 9 of us

Tried True too many blue so took kings no one came

hotfix came and people crashed and had dl patch

changed camp to haderus, depop ep emp by taking last emp keep no opposition

Changed to spellbreaker mostly blue map found an AD group farming raid with scroll wiped them too easily and casually ran around a bit with scroll, wiped them few more time then i suicided with scroll and called the raid.


So boring and not fun.

Minno

You guys/gals need to quit being stubborn and come to Azura star; leave this high burst meta-land behind.

Minnesinger

Chelos wrote: »

It's a bit lame that a lot of players seem to rather join the strong fractions than join the weaker ones where they can actually make a difference.
I'm all EP now and have deleted all the other fraction chars.
It's quite a challenge to go against the green (blue/yellow) coalition but more fun than just be one of the raging mob.

EP has no problem but having too many pug minded players. Come the time some EP guild can gather the spread power of EP we will see the map turning into red all day. The times of Havoc seems to be forgotten. Don´t worry your strenght has always been the popularity of Skyrim.

kuro-dono

New azura star aka Azura star is GREAT, just some covenants and some ebons then the reign of ap farmers aka aldmeri will be over.

Dakrana_Thrazvoth

I dont know how is NA server for pvp, but on EU server, DC are overpopulated. It is just a nightmare for find fights with a really good opposition without huge zergs or blue map.

Zheg

The only thing slowing the alliances from flipping the map all one color is the perma-root meta Wrobel gave us with the rapids nerf. Aren't you having so much fun having 3+ casts of bombard applied to you for every cast of Purify? xD

I don't think I saw one person yesterday using steel tornado, everyone has officially made the switch, as it was forecasted. You're either magicka for prox det and meteor/bats, or you're spamming bombard, GG.

kuro-dono

human nature to do everything to make sure you have fun and your enemy not

kuro-dono

Friendlyfire and all that gone, no more issues when oils kill npcs too + bombard SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM

Junipus

TF used to be good for a fight until the last campaign reset and DC guilds moved there in bigger numbers. Now everyone's moved there it's all the TF DC who made it blue along with the refugees from Azura so now there's too many for good fights.

Doesn't stop the zergs though. Reds were doing their usual thing last night at Chalman and Bleakers. Organised DC and AD guilds hit the reds since EP tend to sweep up everyone in zone and throw them in one direction without much skill or knowledge. We attack you because you're ridiculously farmable and sometimes abysmally poor outside the zerg. If DE actually helped those they hoover up with advice and tactics they might get something accomplished when numbers don't work.


Abraxus mate, could have told you last night that Kings was a bust since EP only go there with scroll or when they're pushing Ales. TF kings is always dead. TF farra mine on the other hand....

PrinceFabious

Vâo wrote: »

I dont know how is NA server for pvp, but on EU server, DC are overpopulated. It is just a nightmare for find fights with a really good opposition without huge zergs or blue map.

Its the same in NA. DC had about two maybe three stacked raids at Chalman last night while AD had another full raid hitting BRK. Of course EP is farmable when we have to split up our forces to fight both. We are already outnumbered from DC but dealing with AD(DC had AD scroll, which proves thier lust for EP) is too much.

Master_Kas

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Vâo wrote: »

I dont know how is NA server for pvp, but on EU server, DC are overpopulated. It is just a nightmare for find fights with a really good opposition without huge zergs or blue map.

Its the same in NA. DC had about two maybe three stacked raids at Chalman last night while AD had another full raid hitting BRK. Of course EP is farmable when we have to split up our forces to fight both. We are already outnumbered from DC but dealing with AD(DC had AD scroll, which proves thier lust for EP) is too much.

Same thing happened on EU Trueflame yesterday evning.

Blues had all the scrolls + emperor, including Nikels, brindle and roebeck.

What does yellows do? Take alessia -> sej from reds and continue to fight at BRK while blues run in towards chalman.

Wonderful xD

Zheg

Everyone is farming AP for the new sets, care about objectives is down across the board.

I don't doubt seeing stronger AP farming even after people are geared to try for gold jewelry on leaderboards.

Enjoy?

zyk

Yesterday, I played in Cyrodiil for the first time since 2.3 launched. For the first time in weeks, probably -- AS in 2016 had been especially bad.

At first I was encouraged by crazy 1.4-like open field fighting everywhere. It was kind of awesome. No blobs. Despite the bugs, I enjoyed it. pew pew pew, etc.. Everyone seemed to be having fun, despite the bugs.

Later in the evening, I encountered the first blobs I've seen in 2.3. Yucky. Blech. I really don't like this playstyle. I think most of us dislike it. Even those, like me, who blob up at times. I think most of us want to be pewing. AD, at that time, did not seem to have any like-blobs running, so the DC blobs ran over us like the unorganized pugs and randoms we were. It was discouraging. I cursed VE. Apologies. Hate the game, not the players, etc..

With that said, I think it's far too early to tell how this patch will play out. There were some encouraging signs. Despite my rust and the bugs, I was able to get in some effective proxy bombs on stacked players. I think a highly organized six man group could have wiped the blobs I complain about in the paragraph above.

I hope as more experienced and organized PVP players reemerge, we'll begin to see an evolution towards less blobby gameplay.

Zheg

zyk wrote: »

Yesterday, I played in Cyrodiil for the first time since 2.3 launched. For the first time in weeks, probably -- AS in 2016 had been especially bad.

At first I was encouraged by crazy 1.4-like open field fighting everywhere. It was kind of awesome. No blobs. Despite the bugs, I enjoyed it. pew pew pew, etc.. Everyone seemed to be having fun, despite the bugs.

Later in the evening, I encountered the first blobs I've seen in 2.3. Yucky. Blech. I really don't like this playstyle. I think most of us dislike it. Even those, like me, who blob up at times. I think most of us want to be pewing. AD, at that time, did not seem to have any like-blobs running, so the DC blobs ran over us like the unorganized pugs and randoms we were. It was discouraging. I cursed VE. Apologies. Hate the game, not the players, etc..

With that said, I think it's far too early to tell how this patch will play out. There were some encouraging signs. Despite my rust and the bugs, I was able to get in some effective proxy bombs on stacked players. I think a highly organized six man group could have wiped the blobs I complain about in the paragraph above.

I hope as more experienced and organized PVP players reemerge, we'll begin to see an evolution towards less blobby gameplay.

Yesterday was the first time we tried objectives, and as a healer - the damage is real. Without barriers trying to take flags even without an organized group present made hp bars yo-yo like we were being bombed by haxus/rage/invictus/vict. Resources are much harder to manage imo, and I wasn't even casting purge; this piece may or may not be good, haven't decided yet. I don't think they fixed emp siege dmg bug, so that will end up being silly if one is emp during primetime.

Though we had more, we got in some group v group fights against haxus and the meta will be interesting to say the least. They were probably my favorite fights because they dont have 6 yahoos left clicking siege and actually used their skills.

We haven't tried to push a well defended keep with an organized group plus pugs inside yet, not even sure how realistic that will be, we'll see.

I was never, ever a fan of forward camps. I've always strongly felt that rezzing was too forgiving in ESO. The rez speed nerf helps, but as soon as you wipe a group theyre back in <2 minutes. Even on Monday when I was solo or in a small man you'd see it happen. I know some love forward camps, but I think they make objective play a mess. Even though I think the stupidly high dmg numbers are unhealthy, if you die, you should be penalized.

Dat permaroot meta though, will probably end up being my least favorite.

Minno

zyk wrote: »

Yesterday, I played in Cyrodiil for the first time since 2.3 launched. For the first time in weeks, probably -- AS in 2016 had been especially bad.

At first I was encouraged by crazy 1.4-like open field fighting everywhere. It was kind of awesome. No blobs. Despite the bugs, I enjoyed it. pew pew pew, etc.. Everyone seemed to be having fun, despite the bugs.

Later in the evening, I encountered the first blobs I've seen in 2.3. Yucky. Blech. I really don't like this playstyle. I think most of us dislike it. Even those, like me, who blob up at times. I think most of us want to be pewing. AD, at that time, did not seem to have any like-blobs running, so the DC blobs ran over us like the unorganized pugs and randoms we were. It was discouraging. I cursed VE. Apologies. Hate the game, not the players, etc..

With that said, I think it's far too early to tell how this patch will play out. There were some encouraging signs. Despite my rust and the bugs, I was able to get in some effective proxy bombs on stacked players. I think a highly organized six man group could have wiped the blobs I complain about in the paragraph above.

I hope as more experienced and organized PVP players reemerge, we'll begin to see an evolution towards less blobby gameplay.

It comes down to the lag; if not solved its time to jump ship.
FPS issues will continue as they sort out the direct x issues and 64bit client bugs.

Wreuntzylla

Wow, nobody else is experiencing crippling lag that is much worse than pre-patch? I release the forward button and keep moving for 2-3 seconds...

KenaPKK

Durham wrote: »

This ability magicka det....has almost completely ruined the game for me... I do not care what anyone says it still hits way to hard on single target.... A sorcerer last night dueling me casts it on me hitting me for 10k+ .... also Magicka Night Blades hitting just as hard....

All you see is red circles everywhere... this should have been fixed in this patch. ..

YUP

I hate this ability. It ruins magicka class balance and is the sole reason they can't remove AoE caps without everything going to ***.