Pvp magicka sap tank

Daladier

Running purely with magicka dps on my nb. I know sap tanks used to be a thing, and I haven't seen a good one in a while. What sets and skills get used this day and age for one? To have stats that can actually suffice in a 1 v x situation?

hrothbern

for PVE or PVP ?
do you have Engine Guardian ?
What level are you ?

Prabooo

how about a PvP Sap DD instead? It pays my friend, I assure you

Stannum

Allmost the same question. What crafted sets combination would you advise for magika PvP sap-tank-pusher NB (1h&sh/resto). Why crafted? I wish to go all nirnhoned tarit armour for better spellres. And i also use mix 5heavy+1m+1l.

Draxys

Sap tanks don't work in 1vX anymore. The only place I could see a sap tank being good would be wearing one of the heal debuff sets and diving into a group right before your own group hits them.

AmalgamousPrime

Play a magicka nb like you normally would with 5 light armor and DW, but just throw on a shield and swap concealed weapons for swallow soul. Heavy armor magicka NB tanks are good for PVE, but in PVP you need the damage and regen from light armor for burst otherwise you'll just be dead (literally) weight in a group. The magicka NB kit is pretty weak compared to the other classes, making you rely on proxy det timed with an ultimate to have a chance at killing anything.

LegacyDM

Daladier wrote: »

Running purely with magicka dps on my nb. I know sap tanks used to be a thing, and I haven't seen a good one in a while. What sets and skills get used this day and age for one? To have stats that can actually suffice in a 1 v x situation?

My build is easy. I'm currently a dunmer but would recommend Breton. 5 pieces krag (light) Divine on minor and infused on major. Although impen would work on all pieces too. 2 piece monster helm (heavy) malubeth (impenetrable and divine). 2 piece seducer swords. Jewelry = 3 piece willpower. 2 spell damage rings, 1 magicka recovery necklace. Bar 1. Dual swords: Swallow soul, dark cloak, sap essence, lotus fan, refreshing path. Bar 2. Resto staff: impale, healing ward, mark target, double take, fear. Cp blue: Max thermaturge 1 point erosion, everything left over into blessed. Green: Max reduce magicka, everything left over into magicka recovery. Orange: Max quick recovery, everything left over spread evenly between hardy, elemental resistance, and crit resistance. Mundus stone = atronach for magicka recovery. Food = ortzaga which gives me 5000 health and 400 magicka recovery.

When all said and done my magicka recovery is 2689, health is around 27k in cyrodil, and spell damage before buffs is around 2357. I can swamp in spell damage necklace to make higher. At 2689 recovery I can continuously spam spells like sap essence without worrying about running out of magicka. Spamming sap essence without worrying about running out of magicka is extremely important when going against a DK 1vs1. Flappy birds cannot reflect sap essence.

Draxys wrote: »

Sap tanks don't work in 1vX anymore. The only place I could see a sap tank being good would be wearing one of the heal debuff sets and diving into a group right before your own group hits them.

Couldn't be further from the truth. I 1vx just fine. Magicka nb sap essence is the future meta once people figure out that that's the secret to playing a magicka nb.self healing, sustainability, and running opponent out of resources > than burst.

Draxys

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

Daladier wrote: »

Running purely with magicka dps on my nb. I know sap tanks used to be a thing, and I haven't seen a good one in a while. What sets and skills get used this day and age for one? To have stats that can actually suffice in a 1 v x situation?

My build is easy. I'm currently a dunmer but would recommend Breton. 5 pieces krag (light) Divine on minor and infused on major. Although impen would work on all pieces too. 2 piece monster helm (heavy) malubeth (impenetrable and divine). 2 piece seducer swords. Jewelry = 3 piece willpower. 2 spell damage rings, 1 magicka recovery necklace. Bar 1. Dual swords: Swallow soul, dark cloak, sap essence, lotus fan, refreshing path. Bar 2. Resto staff: impale, healing ward, mark target, double take, fear. Cp blue: Max thermaturge 1 point erosion, everything left over into blessed. Green: Max reduce magicka, everything left over into magicka recovery. Orange: Max quick recovery, everything left over spread evenly between hardy, elemental resistance, and crit resistance. Mundus stone = atronach for magicka recovery. Food = ortzaga which gives me 5000 health and 400 magicka recovery.

When all said and done my magicka recovery is 2689, health is around 27k in cyrodil, and spell damage before buffs is around 2357. I can swamp in spell damage necklace to make higher. At 2689 recovery I can continuously spam spells like sap essence without worrying about running out of magicka. Spamming sap essence without worrying about running out of magicka is extremely important when going against a DK 1vs1. Flappy birds cannot reflect sap essence.

Draxys wrote: »

Sap tanks don't work in 1vX anymore. The only place I could see a sap tank being good would be wearing one of the heal debuff sets and diving into a group right before your own group hits them.

Couldn't be further from the truth. I 1vx just fine. Magicka nb sap essence is the future meta once people figure out that that's the secret to playing a magicka nb.self healing, sustainability, and running opponent out of resources > than burst.

Are you sure we're playing the same game? Outside of duels, the pvp meta is completely about burst damage. And of course magicka NB sap is the future meta, it's already the best group build and will be for this patch too. But that's only in full on burst damage setups, not tanky builds.

hrothbern

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

Daladier wrote: »

Running purely with magicka dps on my nb. I know sap tanks used to be a thing, and I haven't seen a good one in a while. What sets and skills get used this day and age for one? To have stats that can actually suffice in a 1 v x situation?

My build is easy. I'm currently a dunmer but would recommend Breton. 5 pieces krag (light) Divine on minor and infused on major. Although impen would work on all pieces too. 2 piece monster helm (heavy) malubeth (impenetrable and divine). 2 piece seducer swords. Jewelry = 3 piece willpower. 2 spell damage rings, 1 magicka recovery necklace. Bar 1. Dual swords: Swallow soul, dark cloak, sap essence, lotus fan, refreshing path. Bar 2. Resto staff: impale, healing ward, mark target, double take, fear. Cp blue: Max thermaturge 1 point erosion, everything left over into blessed. Green: Max reduce magicka, everything left over into magicka recovery. Orange: Max quick recovery, everything left over spread evenly between hardy, elemental resistance, and crit resistance. Mundus stone = atronach for magicka recovery. Food = ortzaga which gives me 5000 health and 400 magicka recovery.

When all said and done my magicka recovery is 2689, health is around 27k in cyrodil, and spell damage before buffs is around 2357. I can swamp in spell damage necklace to make higher. At 2689 recovery I can continuously spam spells like sap essence without worrying about running out of magicka. Spamming sap essence without worrying about running out of magicka is extremely important when going against a DK 1vs1. Flappy birds cannot reflect sap essence.

Draxys wrote: »

Sap tanks don't work in 1vX anymore. The only place I could see a sap tank being good would be wearing one of the heal debuff sets and diving into a group right before your own group hits them.

Couldn't be further from the truth. I 1vx just fine. Magicka nb sap essence is the future meta once people figure out that that's the secret to playing a magicka nb.self healing, sustainability, and running opponent out of resources > than burst.

@joshdm2001_ESO ,
thanks for info,
I played an "always enough Magicka resource" Sap build before IC, with Seducer-Warlock, so less powerfull than the one you describe, but did work quite well in PVP at that time.

Question:
What is the tooltip value and effective self Heal of Sap Essence of your described set up ?