One missing skill point

ChuckyPayne

On my first character (my main) has missing a skill point.

After skill point reset
Character 'A' has 309 free skill points
Character 'B' has 305 free skill points

Character 'A' has PVP rank 12. (12 skill points)
Character 'B' has PVP rank 7. (7 skill points)

Character 'A' has 309 - 12 = 297 skill points from PVE.
Character 'B' has 305 - 7 = 298 skill points from PVE.

Character 'A' and Character 'B' both of them they did it all skill point activity:

Here is the 298 skill points activity:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Skills#Earning_Skill_Points

- Leveling your character, up to level 50 (49 Skill Points)
- Gaining Veteran Ranks, up to Veteran16 (15 Skill Points)
- Completing quests in the main quest (11 Skill Points)
- Completing quest chains in the Dominion, Covenant, Pact, and Coldharbour main storylines (49 Skill Points)
- Completing the Imperial City storyline (1 Skill Point)
- Completing the Reforging Orsinium storyline (3 Skill Points)
- Reading the Folium Discognitum (Optional quest reward from Mages Guild quest chain) (2 Skill Points)
- Absorbing skyshards (123 Skill Points)
- Completing group challenges in public dungeons (18 Skill Points)
- Completing group dungeons (16 Skill Points)
- Completing Veteran dungeons (8 Skill Points)
- Completing Imperial City dungeons (2 Skill Points)
- Completing Orsinium Maelstrom Arena (1 Skill Point)

As of patch 2.2.4 the maximum number of skill points a player can gain is 348 skill points.
348 - 'Ranking up in the Alliance War (50 Skill Points)' = 298

297 <> 298
on Character 'A' missing a skill point. Character 'A' is my main created at April 2014. There were many skill point problem in the game (group challange, quest hub etc). But they said all repaired, and after a skill point reset I got all skill point that I earned.

But then Where is the missing one? :S
With both characther
VR16 done; All quest done; IC, Orsinium story quests done; All skyshards done; All group challenges done; All group dungeons done; All veteran dungeons done; IC dungeons + Maelstrom Arena done too.

Okay it's just one point, but even bother because character A is my main, and always has skill point problem because of six crafting + 3 set up + etc.

I wrote a ticket ~ 1-2 month ago, the support answered, but it didn't help to me. I was so angry because of the ridiculous answers that I decided not worthy of a response.
Today again needed a skill reset, I thought I write on the forum to see if anyone saw or heard anything about missing skill points.

kylewwefan

If you get Vampirism Cured; do you lose those skill points?

DannyLV702

kylewwefan wrote: »

If you get Vampirism Cured; do you lose those skill points?

If you cure vampirism and had skill points spent in any vampire passive/ability, you have to do a skill point RESET to get those back. It's the only way.

TequilaFire

In the final Mages Guild quest did you opt to give Valaste to Uncle Sheo (2 points) or save her (1 point)?

ChuckyPayne

TequilaFire wrote: »

In the final Mages Guild quest did you opt to give Valaste to Uncle Sheo (2 points) or save her (1 point)?

O.o

If you save her only 1 skill points? OMG
ty

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Ty, it is good to know ((( ty ))))

Annalyse

Yeah, that's why I never save her on my alts (I did on my main and it was a disappointment!). She can stay crazy forever if it gets me that second skill point instead of some lame weapon reward.

ZOS_MollyH

Hey @ChuckyPayne - what was your ticket number on that support request please? We'd be happy to take a look.

Divinius

TequilaFire wrote: »

In the final Mages Guild quest did you opt to give Valaste to Uncle Sheo (2 points) or save her (1 point)?

Wait... Saving her gets you a skill point? I thought you got zero from saving her, meaning the book gets you two extra.

ChuckyPayne

Hey @ZOS_MollyH ty, I wrote PM to you.

jzholloway

If you skip the prologue you get a free skill point - you start with three but are only at level three.. unless the prologue quest gives you one as well (I know it gives you a skyshard) - I don't remember.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

TequilaFire wrote: »

In the final Mages Guild quest did you opt to give Valaste to Uncle Sheo (2 points) or save her (1 point)?

Lame. They should give the same amount regardless of the choice. Punishes those who have a conscience

Moonshadow66

Divinius wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

In the final Mages Guild quest did you opt to give Valaste to Uncle Sheo (2 points) or save her (1 point)?

Wait... Saving her gets you a skill point? I thought you got zero from saving her, meaning the book gets you two extra.

That's how I remember it, too.

kylewwefan

DannyLV702 wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

If you get Vampirism Cured; do you lose those skill points?

If you cure vampirism and had skill points spent in any vampire passive/ability, you have to do a skill point RESET to get those back. It's the only way.

That's a lot more gold to reset than ding ba ling charges to get rid of vampirism.

Taleof2Cities

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

In the final Mages Guild quest did you opt to give Valaste to Uncle Sheo (2 points) or save her (1 point)?

Lame. They should give the same amount regardless of the choice. Punishes those who have a conscience

It's one skill point for choosing to save Velaste ... and two skill points for letting her go with Sheogorath to the Shivering Isles.

Uncle Sheo says in his dialogue that not saving Velaste will give you an extra skill point.

It's on the player-character to actually choose.

And, the dialogue options are highlighted in red ... meaning a "choice of no return" is forthcoming.

If you are a new player going through the Mages Guild quest line for the first time, you have been warned.

Lame? Maybe. Grinding quests too fast to even stop and read meaningful quest choices? Doesn't apply to every player ... but likely.

laksikus

DannyLV702 wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

If you get Vampirism Cured; do you lose those skill points?

If you cure vampirism and had skill points spent in any vampire passive/ability, you have to do a skill point RESET to get those back. It's the only way.

thats wrong, stop spreading false rumors. you get all skillpoints back, no matter if you are vamp, human or got cured with assigned points. you get ALL back

Divinius

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

It's one skill point for choosing to save Velaste ... and two skill points for letting her go with Sheogorath to the Shivering Isles.

Uncle Sheo says in his dialogue that not saving Velaste will give you an extra skill point.

I totally do not recall that at all. I've done that quest 4 times, and Sheo says, on two different occasions, that if you let her go with him, he'll give you a book worth "about a half-dozen of those sky-shard things." And the book does indeed give you two skill points. He never says anything about still getting one skill point if you choose save her.

And (while I've only chosen to save her once), from what I recall, saving her gets you NOTHING from Sheo, and the quest reward from her is just her staff or something. I don't recall any skill point at all associated with the choice to save her. Meaning that if my memory is correct, you lose TWO skill points by saving her, not just one.

Now I'll have to save her on one of my alts and see what the reward actually is in that case. Maybe they've changed it since then due to people complaining about the quest?

Divinius

laksikus wrote: »

DannyLV702 wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

If you get Vampirism Cured; do you lose those skill points?

If you cure vampirism and had skill points spent in any vampire passive/ability, you have to do a skill point RESET to get those back. It's the only way.

thats wrong, stop spreading false rumors. you get all skillpoints back, no matter if you are vamp, human or got cured with assigned points. you get ALL back

That's not wrong, and perhaps you should more carefully read what he wrote, before accusing him of spreading false rumors.

He said that if you cured vampirism with points spent, you still have to do a reset to get them back. That's 100% true. His point was that you don't just magically get the spent points back when you cure vampirism. You still have to do the reset.

clayandaudrey_ESO

laksikus wrote: »

DannyLV702 wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

If you get Vampirism Cured; do you lose those skill points?

If you cure vampirism and had skill points spent in any vampire passive/ability, you have to do a skill point RESET to get those back. It's the only way.

thats wrong, stop spreading false rumors. you get all skillpoints back, no matter if you are vamp, human or got cured with assigned points. you get ALL back

Are you always so arrogant when you are the one who is wrong?

Enodoc

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

In the final Mages Guild quest did you opt to give Valaste to Uncle Sheo (2 points) or save her (1 point)?

Lame. They should give the same amount regardless of the choice. Punishes those who have a conscience

It's one skill point for choosing to save Velaste ... and two skill points for letting her go with Sheogorath to the Shivering Isles.

That's not true. You get no skill points if you save Valaste. So you either have 298 total PvE skill points if you send her off with Sheo, or 296 if you don't.

HOWEVER, I believe there is/was a bug in the God of Schemes Main Quest. Depending on your choice of Companion in that quest, you may not get a skill point at the end of it.

kylewwefan

Sorry to keep bringing it up, but I was reading there are 326 total skill points in the game. I guess you might still be missing a few? Not knocking ya, I still have a ways to go for all mine.

ChuckyPayne

kylewwefan wrote: »

Sorry to keep bringing it up, but I was reading there are 326 total skill points in the game. I guess you might still be missing a few? Not knocking ya, I still have a ways to go for all mine.

348 with orsinium, and with Thief Guild DLC more. But -50 skill points if u r not a pvp player.

theher0not

jzholloway wrote: »

If you skip the prologue you get a free skill point - you start with three but are only at level three.. unless the prologue quest gives you one as well (I know it gives you a skyshard) - I don't remember.

That doesn't matter. I got the same amount of SP on my Nb i did tutorial with and the one I didn't (altough the one I did it on was a bit clooser to level 4 due to mob killing in coldharbour)

Mojmir

I could be wrong but the book for mages guild actually used to give 5pts. i know its 2 now

tke376

ChuckyPayne wrote: »

On my first character (my main) has missing a skill point.

After skill point reset
Character 'A' has 309 free skill points
Character 'B' has 305 free skill points

Character 'A' has PVP rank 12. (12 skill points)
Character 'B' has PVP rank 7. (7 skill points)

Character 'A' has 309 - 12 = 297 skill points from PVE.
Character 'B' has 305 - 7 = 298 skill points from PVE.

Character 'A' and Character 'B' both of them they did it all skill point activity:

Here is the 298 skill points activity:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Skills#Earning_Skill_Points

- Leveling your character, up to level 50 (49 Skill Points)
- Gaining Veteran Ranks, up to Veteran16 (15 Skill Points)
- Completing quests in the main quest (11 Skill Points)
- Completing quest chains in the Dominion, Covenant, Pact, and Coldharbour main storylines (49 Skill Points)
- Completing the Imperial City storyline (1 Skill Point)
- Completing the Reforging Orsinium storyline (3 Skill Points)
- Reading the Folium Discognitum (Optional quest reward from Mages Guild quest chain) (2 Skill Points)
- Absorbing skyshards (123 Skill Points)
- Completing group challenges in public dungeons (18 Skill Points)
- Completing group dungeons (16 Skill Points)
- Completing Veteran dungeons (8 Skill Points)
- Completing Imperial City dungeons (2 Skill Points)
- Completing Orsinium Maelstrom Arena (1 Skill Point)

As of patch 2.2.4 the maximum number of skill points a player can gain is 348 skill points.
348 - 'Ranking up in the Alliance War (50 Skill Points)' = 298

297 <> 298
on Character 'A' missing a skill point. Character 'A' is my main created at April 2014. There were many skill point problem in the game (group challange, quest hub etc). But they said all repaired, and after a skill point reset I got all skill point that I earned.

But then Where is the missing one? :S
With both characther
VR16 done; All quest done; IC, Orsinium story quests done; All skyshards done; All group challenges done; All group dungeons done; All veteran dungeons done; IC dungeons + Maelstrom Arena done too.

Okay it's just one point, but even bother because character A is my main, and always has skill point problem because of six crafting + 3 set up + etc.

I wrote a ticket ~ 1-2 month ago, the support answered, but it didn't help to me. I was so angry because of the ridiculous answers that I decided not worthy of a response.
Today again needed a skill reset, I thought I write on the forum to see if anyone saw or heard anything about missing skill points.

@ChuckyPayne
@ZOS_MollyH

Chucky:

I know it's been a couple months since you posted this to the forums, but did you ever figure out the missing skill point? I ask only because I seem to be in the same boat, and can't for the life of me figure out where the missing skill point is to be found. As I was searching for an answer, your post came up in my search results. I am very interested to know if you were able to determine the source of your missing skill point.

Either I am truly missing a skill point, or the list (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Skills#Earning_Skill_Points) is wrong.

My main on Xbox NA has 287 skill points after visiting the shrine. Based on the sources of skill points found on UESP.net, and knowing what I have, and haven't done yet, in the game that yields a skill point, I should have 288.

Leveling your character, up to level 50 (64 Skill Points)
- Character is level 50.

Completing quests in the main quest (11 Skill Points)

- Main questline completed.
• Soul Shriven in Coldharbour
• The Harborage
• Daughter of Giants
• Chasing Shadows
• Castle of the Worm
• The Tharn Speaks
• Halls of Torment
• Valley of Blades
• Shadow of Sancre Tor
• Council of the Five Companions
• God of Schemes

Completing quest chains in the Dominion, Covenant, Pact, and Coldharbour main storylines (49 Skill Points)

- All zone quests completed.

Aldmeri Dominion (15)

Auridon (3):
• Rites of the Queen
• The Veil Falls
• Sever All Ties

Grahtwood (3):
• The Grip of Madness
• Heart of the Matter
• A Lasting Winter

Greenshade (3):
• Throne of the Wilderking
• Pelidil's End
• Striking at the Heart

Malabal Tor (3):
• Reap What Is Sown
• Restore the Silvenar
• Buyer Beware (Note: According to UESP, this quest is actually a “side quest” and not part of the zone main story questline)

Reaper’s March (3):
• The First Step
• Motes in the Moonlight
• The Den of Lorkhaj

Daggerfall Covenant (16)

Glenumbra (4):
• Bloodthorn Assassins
• Purifying the Wyrd Tree
• The Fall of Faolchu
• Angof the Gravesinger

Stormhaven (3):
• Sir Hughes’ Fate
• The Return of the Dream Shard
• Vaermina’s Gambit

Rivenspire (3):
• The Blood-Splattered Shield
• The Liberation of Northpoint
• The Lightless Remnant

Alik’r Desert (3):
• A Reckoning with Uwafa
• Alasan’s Plot
• Amputating the Hand

Bangkorai (3):
• The Parley
• Storming the Garrison
• To Walk on Far Shores

Ebonheart Pact (15)

Stonefalls (3):
• The Death of Balreth
• The General’s Demise
• Sadal's Final Defeat

Deshaan (3):
• Plague Bringer
• The Seal of Three
• The Judgement of Veloth

Shadowfen (3):
• The Skin Stealer’s Lair
• Keepers of the Shell
• The Dream of the Hist

Eastmarch (3):
• One Victor, One King
• Eternal Slumber
• Songs of Sovngarde

The Rift (3):
• Through the Shroud
• Shattered Hopes
• Stomping Sinmur

Coldharbour (3):
• Light from the Darkness
• Breaking the Shackle
• The Final Assault

Completing the Imperial City storyline (1 Skill Point)
- Storyline not started yet, thus no skill points earned.
• Quest, The Sublime Brazier, not completed.

Completing the Reforging Orsinium storyline (3 Skill Points)
- Storyline not started yet, thus no skill points earned.
• Quest, A King-Sized Problem, not completed.
• Quest, The Anger of a King, not completed.
• Quest, Blood on a King’s Hands, not completed.

Reading the Folium Discognitum (Optional quest reward from Mages Guild quest chain) (2 Skill Points)
- Read the Folium Discognitum during the quest, The Mad God’s Bargain.

Completing the primary quest chain of the Thieves Guild storyline (6 Skill Points)
- Storyline not started yet, thus no skill points earned.
• Quest, Partners in Crime, not completed.
• Quest, Cleaning House, not completed.
• Quest, The Long Game, not completed.
• Quest, A Flawless Plan, not completed.
• Quest, Forever Hold Your Peace, not completed.
• Quest, Prison Break, not completed.

Completing the primary quest chain of the Dark Brotherhood storyline (8 Skill Points)
- Storyline started, but not completed. Have earned 3 skill points thus far for this storyline.
• Quest, Signed in Blood, completed.
• Quest, A Lesson in Silence, completed.
• Quest, Questions of Faith, completed.
• Quest, A Special Request, not completed.
• Quest, Dark Revelations, not completed.
• Quest, A Ghost from the Past, not completed.
• Quest, The Wrath of Sithis, not completed.
• Quest, Filling the Void, not completed.

Absorbing skyshards (127 Skill Points)
- As of the DB update on Xbox, v1.4.0.0, there are 381 skyshards (or 127 skill points) to be found. I've found 340 skyshards (or 113 full skill points). I am missing all of the skyshards in Imperial City (13), Wrothgar (17), and the Gold Coast (6). I have found 1 skyshard in Hew’s Bane, but I’m stilling missing (5).

Ranking up in the Alliance War (50 Skill Points)
- I am Alliance War rank 5, Tyro Grade 1. (5) PVP ranks = 5 skill points.

Completing group challenges in public dungeons (18 Skill Points)
- I have completed 17/18 of the public dungeon group challenges. I am missing Rkindaleft in Wrothgar.

Completing group dungeons (16 Skill Points)
- All group dungeons completed.
• Quest, Banishing the Banished, completed.
• Quest, Deadly Whispers, completed.
• Quest, Kings of the Grotto, completed.
• Quest, Ancient Remains, completed.
• Quest, Deception in the Dark, completed.
• Quest, Mine All Mine, completed.
• Quest, Razor’s Edge, completed.
• Quest, Lover’s Torment, completed.
• Quest, Force of Nature, completed.
• Quest, Eye of the Storm, completed.
• Quest, Blood and Sand, completed.
• Quest, Nobles’ Rest, completed.
• Quest, Knowledge Gained, completed.
• Quest, Jumping Ship, completed.
• Quest, Fires of Battle, completed.
• Quest, Mind of Madness, completed.

Completing Veteran dungeons (8 Skill Points)
- All veteran dungeons completed.
• Quest, The Plan, completed.
• Quest, Blood Relations, completed.
• Quest, Lighting the Shadows, completed.
• Quest, Consuming Darkness, completed.
• Quest, No Second Chances, completed.
• Quest, What Was Lost, completed.
• Quest, Edge of Darkness, completed.
• Quest, Return to Ash, completed.

Completing Imperial City dungeons (2 Skill Points)
- Neither WGT or ICP have been completed, thus no skill points earned for these activities.
• Quest, Planemeld Obverse, not completed.
• Quest, Summary Execution, not completed.

Completing Orsinium Maelstrom Arena (1 Skill Point)
- Activity not started, thus no skill points earned.
• Quest, Maelstrom Arena, not completed.

Based on what I have and haven't done from the above list from UESP.net, I *should* have 288 skill points, but in reality I have 287.

UltimaJoe777

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

In the final Mages Guild quest did you opt to give Valaste to Uncle Sheo (2 points) or save her (1 point)?

Lame. They should give the same amount regardless of the choice. Punishes those who have a conscience

I saved her. Every time. Screw the book, I regret nothing!

Enodoc

Enodoc wrote: »

HOWEVER, I believe there is/was a bug in the God of Schemes Main Quest. Depending on your choice of Companion in that quest, you may not get a skill point at the end of it.

Following this popping up in another thread, I looked into it a bit more. Here's quoted what I posted in that thread:

Enodoc wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

I have a theory that I haven't yet been able to test, but it's something you could add to your support ticket for ZOS to look into.

It's possible that at least one of the three endings for the final Main Quest "God of Schemes" is bugged, and does not give a skill point, whereas the other two do. Specifically, based on the page history, I believe sacrificing Varen may not give a skill point, while at least one of the others does.

It this true?!? I have never noticed but I usually always sacrifice Varen... I'd expect you'd get a skill point no matter WHO you selected since the conclusion of each main quest always granted a SP.

Quite. Which is why it must be a bug. I've managed to find some videos from 2014 which illustrate this theory:
Lyris sacrificed: https://youtu.be/5ua_H3qpzIA?t=40m48s 1 Skill Point
Sai sacrificed: https://youtu.be/IsAeONy7YxM?t=31m58s No Skill Point
Varen sacrificed: https://youtu.be/gaI8uGuQYwY?t=34m45s No Skill Point

They may have since fixed it (2015 and 2016 videos):
Sai sacrificed: https://youtu.be/pENp4rsJCVI?t=35m53s 1 Skill Point
Varen sacrificed: https://youtu.be/QuGo_wBo4Zs?t=12m54s 1 Skill Point

But even if they fixed it, maybe they forgot to retroactively add the missing point to those who had already completed that quest?

(@ZOS_MollyH since you were in this thread, could you pass on this theory to the devs? Thanks!)

Hellbender27

Annalyse wrote: »

Yeah, that's why I never save her on my alts (I did on my main and it was a disappointment!). She can stay crazy forever if it gets me that second skill point instead of some lame weapon reward.

OMG I did the same thing by mistake... I took the book on all my mains then on my alt last week I was watching netflix and clicked to fast lol and lost 2!! skillpoints =( lol I feel your pain almost as bad as last night I deconed my Kena helm by mistake lol..... lol.... *Cry*.....

OrphanHelgen

Any possibility to get those skillpoints?
I kind of need them since my main is a crafter, tank and stam dd switching.
320 skillpoints and everything used.

Parrotbrain

I completed cadwell's gold around May 2014 and several of the public dungeons in the daggerfall and aldmeri factions had bugs where no skill point was awarded with the group challenge. I never received them retroactively afaik. My main is EP on EU-PC.

Also my template char on the PTS started with 300 skill points if I am not mistaken. I did a race change,the racial skills were refunded (9 altogether) and redistributed to the new racials. after using a reskill scroll, I only had 291 points in the pool. so it seems that somehow the respec scroll had some conflict with the race change. the template char changed from a nord female to altmer male.