Anyone moved from Keyboard/Mouse to gamepad?

GrimMauKin

Buying an Xbox controller for my PC made a massive difference playing Skyrim. Like many I was shocked to find the TESO for PC wasn't gamepad enabled (XPadder never really quite worked for me).

I've played since release on keyboard and mouse and have got on fairly well in PvE and haven't had a problem. However PvP (I've bought IC) is a bit of a shocker and as it tends to happen really quickly and be over so fast (I'm rubbish) I'm starting to find myself fluffing the keys and wondering whether a gamepad would help (now that TESO is gamepad enabled). I've never had a "keyboard is purer" approach to PC gaming and wondered if anyone had successfully retrained themselves to use a gamepad in TESO after a long period with keyboard and mouse.

NateAssassin

Playing with a gamepad is, utterly terrible on ESO, save it for games like GTAV and Fallout 4/Skyrim

nine9six

I use my XB1 controller when I'm not doing anything serious, it's late, and I just want to kick-back and run around Wrothgar harvesting materials.

I wouldn't use it for anything "serious", though.

SirAndy

GrimMauKin wrote: »

I've played since release on keyboard and mouse and have got on fairly well in PvE and haven't had a problem. However PvP (I've bought IC) is a bit of a shocker and as it tends to happen really quickly and be over so fast (I'm rubbish) I'm starting to find myself fluffing the keys and wondering whether a gamepad would help (now that TESO is gamepad enabled). I've never had a "keyboard is purer" approach to PC gaming and wondered if anyone had successfully retrained themselves to use a gamepad in TESO after a long period with keyboard and mouse.

If PvP is your goal, the controller will make it worse, not better.

There is simply no way it can compete with a keyboard + mouse setup.

Ourorboros

Since you already have a controller, you really loose nothing by trying Gamepad mode. I have found combat to be much easier with a controller (I've used one since release). But I feel sure I would be no better in PVP with M/KB than I am with a controller. I also find PVP moves so fast, I can't react fast enough. I would be surprised if switching to a controller makes you better at PVP unless you have fast reflexes and good concentration. That said, I would be worse without my controller.

FYI, if you haven't tried Gamepad mode, you should know that most add-ons don't work in that mode. And while the world interaction is better in Gamepad mode, the menus are horrid. I usually switch back to PC UI when I am managing inventory. Better UI add-on is going a long way to improve this...be sure to get it if you plan to run Gamepad mode.

wayfarerx

I tried a gamepad for about an hour and hated it. I don't mind a gamepad for slower-paced / single-player games, but I just couldn't get the reaction time and accuracy I wanted when playing ESO.

I also agree with @Ourorboros when it comes to UI & addons. I've been playing since beta and I'm just too set in my ways when it comes to interacting with the UI to change.

Cuyler

I use a controller, always have....never had any problems with keeping up with or being better than those who swear K/B mouse is better. They just need to L2P.

That being said, I use third party gamepad software (pinnacle) to modify my loadouts and gives more adjustments for responsiveness. I would never, never use the bassakwards loadout the games UI has currently.

I broke my thumb last year and it took about 3 months to heal fully. During that time I used the K/B mouse and it's more a preference than being better or necessary. There is not one instance in this game that requires the accuracy of a mouse and in some instances a controller is better, for example everywhere!

Edit: oh I have a Razor black widow k/b and naga12chromatic mouse too, but just for fun

KanedaSyndrome

Hm, can't imagine a gamepad would be able to compete with mouse and keyboard.

Nestor

Keyboard and Mouse all the way.

My old hands get cramped and tired holding on to a controller for the hours I play the game.

Cuyler

KanedaSyndrome wrote: »

Hm, can't imagine a gamepad would be able to compete with mouse and keyboard.

Hmm compete you say? look at my sig I use a controller while leading raids too.

Acharnor

For Christmas I got a X-Box 1 controller. I was starting to get (still have) some form of elbow tendonitis. Using the controller significantly decreased this pain. But on point - I really like using the contoller (I'm a console player at heart). I never drop my ultimate by mistake anymore!!! I don't find my gameplay is any worse than M/KB to be honest other than turning sometimes seems slower. I use it in Cyrodil and IC and perform much as I have before. If I'm running a dungeon I flip back to KB/M so I can chat. Nice to have both options. Give it a go.

Syrani

I use a Razer Tartarus, and I love it. I use the joystick on it to move, and it has a bunch of programmable keys to assign functions to. I use it in my left hand, and a mouse in the right. If I had big enough hands to use a gaming mouse, that would be even more keybinds I could throw in there. With the Tartarus, I don't need to use "gamepad mode" or any other software to make it work, as the Razer software allows me to assign keyboard functions, mouse functions, or macros (I don't use those in ESO) to the keys. In the interface, each Tartarus key had a drop down menu so that you can select what you want it to do. If you want the key to use a keyboard key, you select that from the dropdown menu and then press the keyboard key you want to assign to it. If you want the Tartarus key to perform a mouse function, you select mouse function from the dropdown menu and select which function you want it to perform. It's really pretty easy to program, and it has worked perfectly since I started playing this game in beta.

http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-tartarus

The Tartarus is the smaller version. If you have bigger hands, you could go with an Orbweaver which has another row of keys, and this one also has mechanical keys.

WalkingLegacy

I've been debating picking up an xbone elite controller but I'd probably hardly use it. Maybe finally play dark souls one if I did.

Nestor

Acharnor wrote: »

I was starting to get (still have) some form of elbow tendonitis.

I got one of these

http://www.amazon.com/New-Chair-Keyboard-System-CT6597/dp/B004STTJYM/

And the pain in my shoulders and elbows have gone away. There are some other styles of this apparatus, and I do agree it is fiddly if you are in and out your chair a lot. I am thinking I might get the one that attaches to the base of the chair, but this really helps gaming over time.

Garldeen

Yep, made the move as soon as the option came out. After spending 9 hours a day at my desk using a keyboard and mouse, I was having elbow issues from then using mouse for several hours in the evening. Without controller option coming out I would have left the game. Peen playing with a wireless Xbox controller for months and enjoying the game more than before making the move.

There is a little learning curve, and lots of pressing the wrong button at first, but after than I see very little difference. It might not be optimal for Pvp but I would rather have fun playing than worry about being the best at a game.

Speely

I tried out a Steam Controller. I prefer to use it in kb/m mode rather than gamepad mode since I like the interface better. It works well, but I am too used to normal kb/m and find myself just performing better that way. It's hard to unlearn all the stuff that is second-nature after playing so long.

Potenza

Logitech G13 Programmable Gameboard with LCD Display

This. If you still suck at PvP while using this, then you know for sure its not because of your hardware.

nine9six

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

I've been debating picking up an xbone elite controller but I'd probably hardly use it. Maybe finally play dark souls one if I did.

Yeah, for ESO you may not get much use out of it. But if you play other games I bet it'd be worth it.

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Logitech G13 Programmable Gameboard with LCD Display

This. If you still suck at PvP while using this, then you know for sure its not because of your hardware.

Orb Weaver + Naga. Works so good my G19 just sits there for chat. =\

Pallmor

I love playing ESO with a controller. Never had any problem keeping up, even back when I was still using Xpadder (before the console versions and PC gamepad support came out).

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Never!

FriedEggSandwich

wonkydog wrote: »

Yep, made the move as soon as the option came out. After spending 9 hours a day at my desk using a keyboard and mouse, I was having elbow issues from then using mouse for several hours in the evening. Without controller option coming out I would have left the game. Peen playing with a wireless Xbox controller for months and enjoying the game more than before making the move.

There is a little learning curve, and lots of pressing the wrong button at first, but after than I see very little difference. It might not be optimal for Pvp but I would rather have fun playing than worry about being the best at a game.

I get around elbow/wrist issues by using a separate table for my mouse that I can rest my whole arm on. Then I recline in my desk chair and have the keyboard on my lap. So comfy.

Garldeen

Nice set up. I guess i also like controller as when i use mouse and keyboard it feels like im still at work, especially at weekends.

acw37162

Went to Xbox elite for when I get on test. It was so great I bought a scuff PS4 controller with programmable panels.

Not looking back

Inarre

I transitioned from keyboard to xbox controller

And then i transitioned right back from xbox controller to keyboard.

The ui is terrible. I dont know how people om consoles do it. Not to mention if you dont have the elite with paddles theres simply not enough buttons....

ColoursYouHave

Get a Razr Naga or some other MMO mouse with extra buttons. I got so much better when I no longer needed to move my fingers away from WASD to cast skills. It may be a little awkward to play with at first, but you'll learn quickly and combat will feel much smoother.

KanedaSyndrome

Cuyler wrote: »

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KanedaSyndrome wrote: »

Hm, can't imagine a gamepad would be able to compete with mouse and keyboard.

Hmm compete you say? look at my sig I use a controller while leading raids too.

Gratz to you Perhaps you could do even better with KB/Mouse? Anyway, I just think you get finer control and reaction times with KB/Mouse.

Cuyler

KanedaSyndrome wrote: »

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Cuyler wrote: »

KanedaSyndrome wrote: »

Hm, can't imagine a gamepad would be able to compete with mouse and keyboard.

Hmm compete you say? look at my sig I use a controller while leading raids too.

Gratz to you Perhaps you could do even better with KB/Mouse? Anyway, I just think you get finer control and reaction times with KB/Mouse.

Thank you. Perhaps not? The only benefit to k/b mouse is precision aiming, which is not even used in this game due to aim assistance and very large hit boxes on everything.

When it comes to firing skills reaction time with the controller is actually faster/easier. There are two scenarios here, someone using a naga, which must use a single finger (thumb) to cast skills while the left hand is free for movement. And using a traditional mouse which is the worst because you have to activate skills and move with the same hand. With a controller the thumbs operate movement while I have no less than 4 fingers to activate skills simultaneously if necessary. So reaction is actually faster with the controller in this regard.

Finally is the movement which is overcome on the controller by jacking the sensitivity up until it compares to the speed of the wasd keys. So it's about the same.

Now if this was COD or some FPS where precision aiming was actually a factor i'd say K/b mouse all the way, but its actually a hinderance in ESO IMO because the ease at which I can fire multiple actions/skills while moving with the controller far outweighs in benefit what is lost in precision aiming which again is not even necessary in ESO.

Stump

I made the switch to controller but hate the ui (really, it only shows the @names, c'mon) and trying to do anything in any menu is right out. I set the controller mode hotkey through keybinding to 0 on my num keys. So when i need to bank or craft or any menu i quickly switchover to keyboard/ mouse and back to controller for fighting.