That is the Difference between Cheatings and exploit usings?

Göttermutter

I began with samples of my large collections, that is a cheating! You might be wondering, why i not speak around it, because they are facts and for ever fictionized and if a developper means, he has a problem with it here, so say him or her, they should maybe sometimes realize that the knewing is more than the practizize and if the developer doesent knew about it, so its time more to practizice.
- Maphack
- Speedhack
- show up me your enemies (here also knew as faster view up enemies)
- Than we have here the Cloth experiance, who gives allways the buff you need and let you never die
- this are the important now, go we to the exploits.
What is is the difference between a cheting and a exploit?
So it can be saied, that a cheating is a implementaion by players, who want to get a advantage in a game, that normaly players can not get on.
That is also about exploits? Exploits are unsolved problems by the developpers or made by the developpers (like some gear exploits, thats the same) and such one, who are unsolved by them but knewn by the hole community.
Normaly such known problems get banned by using it, because they are kown and such as long, they are not solved by the developpers, they are unsolved and the using of this exploits get normaly banned.
So the come to the unsolved problems again and sayings by zenimax, this are problems we knew and we solved it and this is told in a patch, not in a patch notize by itself, in a poblem that it is solved by zenimax.
That it is, that this problem soleved by zenimax developpers comes upagain and again and changes all challange in PvP day by day and get reported again by different Users!?
Nothing!
So the solved Problem by Zenimax gets a problem again and they dont registrate that after 3/4 years of reporting it?
Only after a specialized player take a video on zhat and a player smorphed in exactly he puts a camera on and get it on you toube, zenimax react of banning 2 peopless by 2 days.
The campaign was lost by them.
So, if you ask again what is a Troll, so maybe you should ask your developpers!

Etaniel

I'm sorry this is too funny

themdogesbite

I've only heard the legends of the insane zonechat whisperer from DC and EP.. now i can finaly experiance it on my own on the forums.. Brilliant.

Karacule_Fairystar

omg, PLEASE could you type constructively like presentable and neat to the reader's eyes.

I can only understand some points you're saying but mostly, meh I give up!


P.S.
I'm not being a grammar *** but this is just awful.

Etaniel

You should probably stick to posting in the German section Not trying to be mean or anything, but it's really hard to understand anything you are saying

Jhunn

Derra

ZOS where is my LOL button.

Jaybe_Mawfaka

Man I really miss you, come back to azura zonechat

Yuke

babelfish is still a thing?

Master_Fluff

Oh dear, a legend has arrived.

SienneYviete

stewart.leslie76b16_ESO

So to summarize, cheaters are players that find ways to hack the game (and I'm assuming these are to be banned) and exploiters are people that find hacks in the game caused by troll developers and shared it with their mates so they get an advantage over other people (and this is totally fine?). I think I nailed it.

Aiphaton

Jaybe_Mawfaka wrote: »

Man I really miss you, come back to azura zonechat

@Jaybe_Mawfaka
Krazzt i beg you could take over his job remaining the Dc how to PvP

Airyus

LOL. Yes.

But in their defense, I'm pretty sure he/she means this:

Phoenix Cheese
Axe Bleed Cheese
Reverb Cheese
Roll Dodge Cheese
Shuffle Cheese
Wrecking Blow Cheese

and anything else oooey goooey

PosternHouse

I have no idea wtf is going on right now. Here's a cat suffering a brain freeze:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COGehsaDkM0

Master_Kas

Airyus wrote: »

LOL. Yes.

But in their defense, I'm pretty sure he/she means this:

Phoenix Cheese
Axe Bleed Cheese
Reverb Cheese
Roll Dodge Cheese
Shuffle Cheese
Wrecking Blow Cheese

and anything else oooey goooey

You really hate stamina build being able to defend themselves ? xD

Git gud, rolldodge haven't been a problem since they nerfed it.


On topic: Welcome to the forums drachenmutter, to bad I can't ignore you here like I did in-game

GRxKnight

Master_Kas wrote: »

Airyus wrote: »

LOL. Yes.

But in their defense, I'm pretty sure he/she means this:

Phoenix Cheese
Axe Bleed Cheese
Reverb Cheese
Roll Dodge Cheese
Shuffle Cheese
Wrecking Blow Cheese

and anything else oooey goooey

You really hate stamina build being able to defend themselves ? xD

Git gud, rolldodge haven't been a problem since they nerfed it.


On topic: Welcome to the forums drachenmutter, to bad I can't ignore you here like I did in-game

So a certain dc Templar who posted a pvp Montage video being able to infinitely roll dodge and cc break without draining stamina isn't cheese? He and his buddies are all guilty of it

RinaldoGandolphi

GRxKnight wrote: »

So a certain dc Templar who posted a pvp Montage video being able to infinitely roll dodge and cc break without draining stamina isn't cheese? He and his buddies are all guilty of it

If this is indeed true this person and his friends should have been permabanned a long time ago for it.

the only way you put an end to this nonsense is by policing their game.

its in the TOS you agree to when you install the game that they can permabann you for stuff like this, its just up to ZOS to enforce it.

All it would take is 1 round of ZOS bringing down that perma ban hammer just one time...and this nonsense would cease...it only happens right now because there is no threat of reprisal against them from ZOS...there is no consequences at all for this type of behavior and that needs to change.

I don't condone cheating or exploiting of any kind, and cheating of any kind simply should not be tolerated.

Forestd16b14_ESO

..... Uh you do know their is no difference between exploits and cheating exploiting is cheating.

Player A is exploiting a broken mechanic while player B isn't. Player A now has a unfair advantage over player B because player A is not following the rules or being a good sport


CHēt/
verb
gerund or present participle: cheating

1.
act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.
"she always cheats at cards"
deceive or trick.
"he had cheated her out of everything she had"
synonyms: swindle, defraud, deceive, trick, scam, dupe, hoodwink, double-cross, gull; More
informalrip off, con, fleece, shaft, hose, sting, bilk, diddle, rook, gyp, finagle, bamboozle, flimflam, put one over on, pull a fast one on, sucker, stiff, hornswoggle;
formalmulct;
literarycozen
"customers were cheated"
informal
be sexually unfaithful.
"his wife was cheating on him"
synonyms: commit adultery, be unfaithful, stray; More
informaltwo-time, play around;
archaiccuckold
"it's not the first time her husband has cheated"
2.
avoid (something undesirable) by luck or skill.
"she cheated death in a spectacular crash"
synonyms: avoid, escape, evade, elude.

Like honestly how do you think exploiting and cheating are not the same ?

P.S. Thank you google.

Master_Kas

GRxKnight wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Airyus wrote: »

LOL. Yes.

But in their defense, I'm pretty sure he/she means this:

Phoenix Cheese
Axe Bleed Cheese
Reverb Cheese
Roll Dodge Cheese
Shuffle Cheese
Wrecking Blow Cheese

and anything else oooey goooey

You really hate stamina build being able to defend themselves ? xD

Git gud, rolldodge haven't been a problem since they nerfed it.


On topic: Welcome to the forums drachenmutter, to bad I can't ignore you here like I did in-game

So a certain dc Templar who posted a pvp Montage video being able to infinitely roll dodge and cc break without draining stamina isn't cheese? He and his buddies are all guilty of it

What video are you talking about? If it's some kind of exploit/bug then he should mention that. ^^

Nafirian

Karacule_Fairystar wrote: »

omg, PLEASE could you type constructively like presentable and neat to the reader's eyes.

I can only understand some points you're saying but mostly, meh I give up!


P.S.
I'm not being a grammar *** but this is just awful.

NOONE IS SAFE.

ataggs

PosternHouse wrote: »

I have no idea wtf is going on right now. Here's a cat suffering a brain freeze:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COGehsaDkM0

This I understand! Brain freeze hurts.

Mojmir

Why wont Google translate this ***? Lol

Bofrari

Nothing is different because everything is working as INTENDED

Erynyes

double atronach cheese working as intended, it's an emergent playstyle

GRxKnight

Master_Kas wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Airyus wrote: »

LOL. Yes.

But in their defense, I'm pretty sure he/she means this:

Phoenix Cheese
Axe Bleed Cheese
Reverb Cheese
Roll Dodge Cheese
Shuffle Cheese
Wrecking Blow Cheese

and anything else oooey goooey

You really hate stamina build being able to defend themselves ? xD

Git gud, rolldodge haven't been a problem since they nerfed it.


On topic: Welcome to the forums drachenmutter, to bad I can't ignore you here like I did in-game

So a certain dc Templar who posted a pvp Montage video being able to infinitely roll dodge and cc break without draining stamina isn't cheese? He and his buddies are all guilty of it

What video are you talking about? If it's some kind of exploit/bug then he should mention that. ^^

He posted it on here...it's at least a page back at this point if he already hasn't removed it because it shows him exploiting/cheating...me and a few other of my guild mates watched it and noticed his stamina pool barely draining, if even losing any resources at all after multiple dodge rolls in a row

mchermie

Ive seen speedhacks a couple of times, but thats long gone now (as far as I know)
What isnt gone is [snip] that templar who cant die

[edit for naming and shaming]

KenaPKK

Cheaters alter the game to create unique advantages for themselves. This would mean altering client side game code or altering the server for yourself.

Exploiters use unintended game mechanics to gain an advantage that is technically available to anyone playing the game. ex: 2h axe bleed

Morostyle

zo'eh, if ze cat has ze bucket, who do I ze pWn with ze spoon of do0mz?

Tankqull

Yuke wrote: »

babelfish is still a thing?

i believe using babelfish would have delivered sth more understandable

WillhelmBlack

Spectacular.