Dual Weild Question

Thelevyeffect

This is probably a noob question but i'm missing something. Everyone keeps telling me you get a spell critical with dual wield on, and you don't have to put any skill points into it to get the bonus. My question is, how do you know it does that? i can't find on there where it says you get the bonus. Am I missing something simple?

MarrazzMist

There's no tooltip for that, thats why you can't really see unless you try But when you equip dual weapons, you can see your spell critical or spell damage go up in character screen. Equiping some other weapon, for example staff, doesn't give the same benefit.

ontheleftcoast

There is also the passive at the end of the Dual Wield tree "Twin Blade and Blunt" That's the only thing I put points in with my magicka DW toons. It increases damage for swords or crit chance for daggers. Very nice. And only 2 skill points. I think the first level unlocks at 41 and the second at 50 though so you have to wait a while to get them.

Thelevyeffect

So people learned it gets Spell damage buff through trial and error? Thanks for the help MarrazzMist.

Kammakazi

Daggers only give Weapon Critical.

Thelevyeffect

Good to know Kammakazi. I see people running around with two daggers all the time, now I know why. I think I might support dual dagger too. Thanks for info!

ontheleftcoast

Kammakazi wrote: »

Daggers only give Weapon Critical.

I only use swords with magicka but I see people with daggers. Hmm, that's pretty funny.

Valrien

Anyone who uses daggers is doing it wrong. Here's the jist of it:

Dual wield on its own, no passives, increases your spell damage more than any other weapon

When you put points into Twin Blade and Blunt, only the swords passive applies to magical damage, the rest is only physical so dual daggers are 100% useless and you should ALWAYS use swords if you're dual wielding on a magicka build.

Thelevyeffect

I saw that once I started reading into it. Thanks Valrien.

DurzoBlint13

Kammakazi wrote: »

Daggers only give Weapon Critical.

This! weapon crit- not spell crit. While swords give a flat damage bonus so it applies to spell also
....and one of the biggest reasons to use DW is that you get an extra set bonus. Magic builds do not have another option to run 2 one-hand weapons

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

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Kammakazi wrote: »

Daggers only give Weapon Critical.

NeillMcAttack

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

There is also the passive at the end of the Dual Wield tree "Twin Blade and Blunt" That's the only thing I put points in with my magicka DW toons. It increases damage for swords or crit chance for daggers. Very nice. And only 2 skill points. I think the first level unlocks at 41 and the second at 50 though so you have to wait a while to get them.

It actually has nothing to do with that passive. I reset my skill points recently and equipped two swords and I can confirm that the points into the passive do nothing. Simply holding two swords gives about 300 spell damage for little or no reason.

I believe it was mentioned in a recent ESO live that they were going to be putting a fix in (whatever that means) in time for dark brotherhood expansion.

Moonshadow66

Ha, that's an interesting thread here, I didn't know this about dual-wielding swords. Thanks!