So who all is going to try the new NO-CP server?

Xsorus

If we get enough players they might modify the battle spirit system back down since it's going to be pretty nasty on this server.

But i think this is closest we'll get to 1.5 Softcaps.

Derra

Something close to 1.5 but no negate on sorc to warrant having them for anything. Hmmm - naah.

Joy_Division

Too many game mechanics were rolled up into the CP system that we aren't getting back. That plus still having Battlespirit and not wanting to respec for an different rule-set for PvE means no thanks ...

ToRelax

I'll definitely try it out. Was fun testing on PTS with friends, though it could still work out either way on live. I just hope a certain EP guild won't stay on AS then...

Arobain

yep i will

ThatNeonZebraAgain

Joy_Division wrote: »

Too many game mechanics were rolled up into the CP system that we aren't getting back. That plus still having Battlespirit and not wanting to respec for an different rule-set for PvE means no thanks ...

This. I already feel the headache in trying to balance a build without CP, then having to balance it again with CP for PvE. I will try the campaign of course, but not sure if I'll dedicate myself to it since I play both PvP and PvE.

Ishammael

I will try it.

Honestly though, it will be super hard mode for DKs. Can you imagine what a whip will hit for w/o +25% Elemental expert?

RoamingRiverElk

Ishammael wrote: »

I will try it.

Honestly though, it will be super hard mode for DKs. Can you imagine what a whip will hit for w/o +25% Elemental expert?

And, can you imagine trying to heal with Dragon Blood? ^^

Ishammael

RoamingRiverElk wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

I will try it.

Honestly though, it will be super hard mode for DKs. Can you imagine what a whip will hit for w/o +25% Elemental expert?

And, can you imagine trying to heal with Dragon Blood? ^^

Um, yeah I basically would just shield stack.

Soris

Withy your 2k shield?

hammayolettuce

The no CP campaign is just going to be a waste of space for vet. It will work for non vets better but still be terrible.

timidobserver

I would only play there if it turned out that CP were causing 50% of the lag which means the no-cp server has less lag. Otherwise no.

IxSTALKERxI

Xsorus wrote: »

If we get enough players they might modify the battle spirit system back down since it's going to be pretty nasty on this server.

But i think this is closest we'll get to 1.5 Softcaps.

I played around on the PTS and I don't think the battle spirit on the non-cp campaign is that bad. You can still die just as quick by wrecking blow cheese, people don't do 25% more damage but people don't mitigate 25% either. Healing wards and shields are much smaller to. The battle spirit will still be needed imo.

Also I don't think it's possible for them to have battlespirit change on different campaigns anyway. They can only change the rules for each campaign and not the actual buffs, abilities etc themselves.

Ishammael wrote: »

I will try it.

Honestly though, it will be super hard mode for DKs. Can you imagine what a whip will hit for w/o +25% Elemental expert?

People won't have CP to mitigate the elemental damage so that kind of balances it out. Also the other classes experience the same problem with their abilities damage not being increased by CP. I think DK's will be fun to play on non-cp campaign because their battle roar will be really clutch.


Will be interesting to see how people balance offence with sustain. It'll be good to see resource management actually mean something again and good players will be rewarded from that.

Soris

I will try that but they need to turn off battle spirit

Cody

im going to try it out. If i end up liking it I will stay. As bad as I consider 1.5 to have been, the softcaps were great, and this no CP campaign truly is the closest we will get to softcaps. Plus I only have 168 CPs, so it will not be a big shift for me.

caeliusstarbreaker

No.. Not ever... Not even if there is a fire!

Astanphaeus

Nope

Lucky28

hammayolettuce wrote: »

The no CP campaign is just going to be a waste of space for vet. It will work for non vets better but still be terrible.

I don't know about that. i was trying out Blackwater. there are like no legit non vets. it's all just people going there to trade emp on alts.

Cogo

I dont care about CP. I stay Azura cause I always been there, no matter what.

I do care that alot of the players I team with are moving because of it. I wish they made the non-CP test on any other campaign and leave my allies alone!

At least it will be mayham the first week. I like Mayham!

ToRelax

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

If we get enough players they might modify the battle spirit system back down since it's going to be pretty nasty on this server.

But i think this is closest we'll get to 1.5 Softcaps.

I played around on the PTS and I don't think the battle spirit on the non-cp campaign is that bad. You can still die just as quick by wrecking blow cheese, people don't do 25% more damage but people don't mitigate 25% either. Healing wards and shields are much smaller to. The battle spirit will still be needed imo.

Also I don't think it's possible for them to have battlespirit change on different campaigns anyway. They can only change the rules for each campaign and not the actual buffs, abilities etc themselves.

Ishammael wrote: »

I will try it.

Honestly though, it will be super hard mode for DKs. Can you imagine what a whip will hit for w/o +25% Elemental expert?

People won't have CP to mitigate the elemental damage so that kind of balances it out. Also the other classes experience the same problem with their abilities damage not being increased by CP. I think DK's will be fun to play on non-cp campaign because their battle roar will be really clutch.


Will be interesting to see how people balance offence with sustain. It'll be good to see resource management actually mean something again and good players will be rewarded from that.

They said on ESO Live they could adjust Battle Spirit for individual campaigns, but they won't without more feedback. Obviously we'll just have to see how that plays out on live, we have too much lag on PTS at least.

Alcast

+

Tho the 50% dmg mitigation will be *** up *** in there

Mojmir

Ill give it 10mins

Master_Kas

If people remember we lost stats (crit, max health etc) when CP's was introduced which is why I likley wont be playing there. Also my current gear is tied to my build with the CP I have.

I will be testing it tough for sure

Firerock2

I won't leave it. They also should keep the battlespirit buff at what it is now. I'd love a campaign where people don't do insane damage.

RDMyers65b14_ESO

It depends on what my guild does. Most of the guild is not near the CP cap, so it might be a better place for the guild to PVP. A few who are at or above the cap don't want to give up the CP. PVP is not enjoyable without my guild.

NBrookus

I'll try it. Especially if TF and Had turn into campaigns that are laggy messes.

RDMyers65b14_ESO

NBrookus wrote: »

I'll try it. Especially if TF and Had turn into campaigns that are laggy messes.

Haderus turn into a laggy mess???

Have you been there lately? It is already a laggy mess with fps dropping into the single digits and ping through the roof. How can it turn into more of a laggy mess?

GRxKnight

No cp campaign = not worth my time...I'm not going to craft or purchase new armor sets just to play in a campaign that, more than likely, will be dead or not have good fights

Minno

I'll be homing there.

LarsS

We already from Azura, to Trueflame.

vortexman11

GRxKnight wrote: »

No cp campaign = not worth my time...I'm not going to craft or purchase new armor sets just to play in a campaign that, more than likely, will be dead or not have good fights

This.