Hardened Ward or Empowered Ward

Daraugh

With the changes coming to Empowered Ward, which morph will you be using after Thieves Guilds drops? In case anyone missed it, the minor mending will be removed from this morph but it will grant minor intellect. Feel free to comment if you're a magicka sorc, pet sorc, stam sorc etc and why the choice.

PhatGrimReaper

I'll use Hardened Ward after TG

Based on what I seen while testing on PTS, I don't think I'll be changing anything about my current setup

CP5

I'll use Hardened Ward after TG

During the times i've played my magicka sorc i've never felt like I ever got close to running OOM unless in a situation where I was almost certainly going to die. The minor magicka regen is not that useful in my opinion and I would much rather the skill be more powerful per cast, rather than help with an issue i'm not having.

RAGUNAnoOne

Even with the change empowered is the crap morph in fact I think this will make it worse and have less pet surge and resto staff synergy

Daraugh

I'll use Hardened Ward after TG

For the record, I'll stay with hardened ward on my Breton magicka sorc. I'm trying out new stuff with my Khajiit sorc, but I still can't think of a reason to use Empowered with her in any build so far.

ajwest927

I'll use Empowered Ward after TG

I'm changing my build to a sorcerer healer in the next patch, so any buff I can give to my allies would be worth it.

CP5

I'll use Hardened Ward after TG

ajwest927 wrote: »

I'm changing my build to a sorcerer healer in the next patch, so any buff I can give to my allies would be worth it.

From my knowledge its a self buff only. They swapped out the ability to heal more with the ability to regen more since they took it off of the twilights aura morph. Meaning, unless someone knows otherwise, its a self magicka regen buff.

ajwest927

I'll use Empowered Ward after TG

CP5 wrote: »

ajwest927 wrote: »

I'm changing my build to a sorcerer healer in the next patch, so any buff I can give to my allies would be worth it.

From my knowledge its a self buff only. They swapped out the ability to heal more with the ability to regen more since they took it off of the twilights aura morph. Meaning, unless someone knows otherwise, its a self magicka regen buff.

Empowered Ward (Conjured Ward morph):
This morph now grants the Minor Intellect buff to you and nearby allies, and will not be removed if the caster’s damage shield is removed.
This morph no longer provides the Minor Mending buff.

CP5

I'll use Hardened Ward after TG

ajwest927 wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

ajwest927 wrote: »

I'm changing my build to a sorcerer healer in the next patch, so any buff I can give to my allies would be worth it.

From my knowledge its a self buff only. They swapped out the ability to heal more with the ability to regen more since they took it off of the twilights aura morph. Meaning, unless someone knows otherwise, its a self magicka regen buff.

Empowered Ward (Conjured Ward morph):
This morph now grants the Minor Intellect buff to you and nearby allies, and will not be removed if the caster’s damage shield is removed.
This morph no longer provides the Minor Mending buff.

Thanks for clarifying that, didn't recall off hand given what normally happens when these things change.

Waffennacht

I'll use Hardened Ward after TG

Hardened Ward ftw major intellect usually comes from potions right?

Ra'Shtar

I'll use Empowered Ward after TG

Waffennacht wrote: »

Hardened Ward ftw major intellect usually comes from potions right?

It gives minor not major.