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Wrecking Blow and its wonders

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Just showing the wonders of PvP in this game and the abilities working as intended. It wasn't lag as you can see my latency in the bottom left. Wrecking Blow needs to be fixed and adjusted ZOS. Nothing has changed from the PTS and on live about this broken ability. @ZOS_GinaBruno @zos_wrobel

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    WB needs to have its range toned down by 2 meters, that is it. I understand how it is annoying to get WBd to death, but as a pure archer build, even I can get away from it, it isn't THAT difficult. Speed pots and immovable pots are your friend.
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  • Lokey0024
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    The guy who hit you probly has wifi stolen from mcdonalds down the street. Wish there was minimal req. internet speed to play multiplayer online but so far most games suffer the same fate.
  • Lyar09
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    laced wrote: »
    WB needs to have its range toned down by 2 meters, that is it. I understand how it is annoying to get WBd to death, but as a pure archer build, even I can get away from it, it isn't THAT difficult. Speed pots and immovable pots are your friend.

    please explain to me where in that video did you even see a wrecking blow charging up? The skill is bugged with its rage. I was well outside of the range and LOS'd behind a tree.
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    Clearly an L2P issue
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  • Rabbyrow1234
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    I use wb with my stamblade and I can tell you that I hit experienced players like 1/7 attempts.
    Inexperienced? 7/7
    L2p
    Hint: dodgeroll
    Edited by Rabbyrow1234 on February 23, 2016 8:36AM
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  • Reevster
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    Ya no ability should be able to weave around objects out of line of sight, WB is definitely broken, i agree with the OP.
  • CtrlAltDlt
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    Damn that range though. WB is cheese
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  • Xeniph
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    If you notice,

    That gap closer that stopped you in your tracks just before the WB, was from the same NB. You simply didn't get out of range before the .5 second timestamp on the checks.

    And to dodge roll WB you have to do it just after the back wind up and before the upswing.

    But it's not the abilities fault you got hit like this, it's the current Range/Los checks criteria of the engine. I have seen video's of myself nailing someone with WB, and on their screen I was well over 7m, but on mine I was never beyond 5m.

    So it's the checks and pings of both players that is involved here. Not just yours. Your ping was 113, but his might have been 80, which is quite a difference really. And then there was the REALLY low FPS you had.

    It's not as cut and dry as you think.
    Lyar09 wrote: »
    I use wb with my stamblade and I can tell you that I hit experienced players like 1/7 attempts.
    Inexperienced? 7/7
    L2p
    Hint: dodgeroll

    I can tell you don't know wtf you're talking about because you're clearly a moron for using wb on a stamblade when you have a insta cast dps ability with surprise attack. Also, I did dodge roll and was behind the tree and was well outside the range of wb. Quit trolling.

    This right here is the single most ignorant thing I have heard on the forums. Both abilities have merit, not only in the same build, but in separate builds.

    I won't explain the nuances, but rest assured, WB is not at all wasted on a NB if used properly.
    Edited by Xeniph on February 23, 2016 7:07PM
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  • DHale
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    WB is fine I don't use it and likely not going to use it. For you and anyone else it is available for everyone to use. It's not skillful to play it... its skillful to avoid it. Yes I die to it especially in lag. Quit the asking for nerfs it's literally killing this wonderful yet flawed game.
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  • OurOwn
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    I'd be more mad at that executioner lol
  • Jade1986
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    Lyar09 wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    WB needs to have its range toned down by 2 meters, that is it. I understand how it is annoying to get WBd to death, but as a pure archer build, even I can get away from it, it isn't THAT difficult. Speed pots and immovable pots are your friend.

    please explain to me where in that video did you even see a wrecking blow charging up? The skill is bugged with its rage. I was well outside of the range and LOS'd behind a tree.

    The charge not showing up is ZoS horrible coding and ridiculously awful server / datacenter quality. I literally live 30 minutes from their so called EU datacenters and STILL have connection issues. I can only imagine the problems people have that live outside of the area. It isn't the ability itself.
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Simple fix range is 3 meters cast time is 2 or 3 seconds.

    But a simple fix like that interferes with ZOS logic and will saddly never happen.
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  • Cody
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    laced wrote: »
    WB needs to have its range toned down by 2 meters, that is it. I understand how it is annoying to get WBd to death, but as a pure archer build, even I can get away from it, it isn't THAT difficult. Speed pots and immovable pots are your friend.

    speed pots wont do anything, most 2Hers use critical rush (usually stampede) immovable pots could work.
    Edited by Cody on February 24, 2016 3:35AM
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    Simple fix range is 3 meters cast time is 2 or 3 seconds.

    But a simple fix like that interferes with ZOS logic and will saddly never happen.

    2 seconds is already too much, 3 would make it useless. I was around when it had a 3 second cast time, the ability was a joke. If it was not interrupted, it was very easy to dodge and did not put out enough burst to do anything; same with snipe in fact.
    Edited by Cody on February 24, 2016 3:37AM
  • Duiwel
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    I agree it's a L2P issue, there might not have been any lag on YOUR side....

    However there could've been on the server side or as stated above he has 3rd world internet and it happens.

    If you have ever used 2H you'd know WB CANNOT hit that far OP, & neither can execute.
    So clearly this was server lag...

    So before you cry for nerfs test it out to ensure it's actually the issue you believe it is.


    Secondly the fact that you didn't see an animation can be caused by many things including AC.
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  • kkravaritieb17_ESO
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    Wb is one of the most *** abilities in game and it needs to be toned down a bit.
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  • Bofrari
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    I can tell you this about wb I've only been pvping for two months and it's simply the easiest thing to counter I look forward to wb spammers it's literally easy AP for me and on top of that the people doing it die so easy and I play a mana templar
    Edited by Bofrari on February 24, 2016 9:58AM
  • rfennell_ESO
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    What this shows is the commonplace behavior of wrecking blow.

    I've been hit with it from much further, through walls, while I'm behind the spammer and cloaked.... you name it.

    The most broken thing about it is it's only totally broken for "certain" players.
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    JDC1985 wrote: »
    I can tell you this about wb I've only been pvping for two months and it's simply the easiest thing to counter I look forward to wb spammers it's literally easy AP for me and on top of that the people doing it die so easy and I play a mana templar

    If your on console ps4 eu, ill show you how there not 'easy ap' if they know what there doing. Wb needs toning down, if at least needs fixing first though.
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    JDC1985 wrote: »
    I can tell you this about wb I've only been pvping for two months and it's simply the easiest thing to counter I look forward to wb spammers it's literally easy AP for me and on top of that the people doing it die so easy and I play a mana templar

    If your on console ps4 eu, ill show you how there not 'easy ap' if they know what there doing. Wb needs toning down, if at least needs fixing first though.

    fix it first. i´m not sure if it would then need any further nerfs.
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    JDC1985 wrote: »
    I can tell you this about wb I've only been pvping for two months and it's simply the easiest thing to counter I look forward to wb spammers it's literally easy AP for me and on top of that the people doing it die so easy and I play a mana templar

    If your on console ps4 eu, ill show you how there not 'easy ap' if they know what there doing. Wb needs toning down, if at least needs fixing first though.

    fix it first. i´m not sure if it would then need any further nerfs.

    Yeah see how it is without the dodgy range and cc first.

    If it still seems really strong just remove the cc, a high dmg skill that empowers itself shouldn't have a good hard cc to it anyway. Give it something else, like minor fracture or a small bleed or something as a compensation

    This way it won't affect the PvE's who use it.
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  • Tankqull
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    JDC1985 wrote: »
    I can tell you this about wb I've only been pvping for two months and it's simply the easiest thing to counter I look forward to wb spammers it's literally easy AP for me and on top of that the people doing it die so easy and I play a mana templar

    If your on console ps4 eu, ill show you how there not 'easy ap' if they know what there doing. Wb needs toning down, if at least needs fixing first though.

    fix it first. i´m not sure if it would then need any further nerfs.

    Yeah see how it is without the dodgy range and cc first.

    If it still seems really strong just remove the cc, a high dmg skill that empowers itself shouldn't have a good hard cc to it anyway. Give it something else, like minor fracture or a small bleed or something as a compensation

    This way it won't affect the PvE's who use it.

    the first nerf to be applied if everneeded - is to add the common snare on every casted/channeled attack but WB ...
    [edit: what i ment was adding the snare component for casting an ability to WB aswell]
    Edited by Tankqull on February 25, 2016 10:18AM
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  • Lyar09
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    Appreciate all the comments. To be fair, I probably would have died eventually in this clip since that sorc tore me a new one with the inev det and curse. But needless to say, I made this video to bring awareness to ZOS and people in the community who arent on the receiving end of this problem (wb spammers). For those saying it is a L2P issue....I will duel any of you. I am DC NA on PC. I am open to "learn" more from this so called "L2P" issue by dueling.
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  • Jade1986
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    Tankqull wrote: »
    JDC1985 wrote: »
    I can tell you this about wb I've only been pvping for two months and it's simply the easiest thing to counter I look forward to wb spammers it's literally easy AP for me and on top of that the people doing it die so easy and I play a mana templar

    If your on console ps4 eu, ill show you how there not 'easy ap' if they know what there doing. Wb needs toning down, if at least needs fixing first though.

    fix it first. i´m not sure if it would then need any further nerfs.

    Yeah see how it is without the dodgy range and cc first.

    If it still seems really strong just remove the cc, a high dmg skill that empowers itself shouldn't have a good hard cc to it anyway. Give it something else, like minor fracture or a small bleed or something as a compensation

    This way it won't affect the PvE's who use it.

    the first nerf to be applied if everneeded - is to add the common snare on every casted/channeled attack but WB ...

    Frags knocks down the enemy. Then Frags would need to be given a snare as well =P.
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