Damage Per Second Max?

mb10

Hi, I know this has thread has been made before but its been with different patches so with the current patch, what is your highest damage person?

I am talking about sustained damage here. Not when you've just hit an ice comet after having all the minors and majors from team mates and continuing attacking your daedric enemy (Some people's ego may force them to struggle to answer this honestly).

So what you can do individually with your build each second (approx if on consoles, just do the maths)

lolo_01b16_ESO

Your scenario (sustained fight without buffs / debuffs from your group mates) is very unlikely, so very few players will have their characters build for this situation.
Also which boss would you suggest for testing? Should I get a group of tanks who take care of the axes while I solo the mage in aa?

maxlax28b14_ESO

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Your scenario (sustained fight without buffs / debuffs from your group mates) is very unlikely, so very few players will have their characters build for this situation.
Also which boss would you suggest for testing? Should I get a group of tanks who take care of the axes while I solo the mage in aa?

Agreed. ^
Please specify, what class would you like to see, boss.
Secondly what you ask for is again again IMPOSSIBLE. To ask for no buffs/debuffs is simply not possible, That is what makes our "dps" truly so high. Since you ask for "sustained" dps, do you want a minumum 3 minute fight..? There are so many variables being taken into account. Myself and many other people can pull 28k plus on serpent, but that also translates to 40k if not 50-60k dps on other bosses. But if you take away all the buffs psh maybe that translates to 10-20k because of sustain issues alone.
Lastly asking for dps is asking for who has the biggest epeen, no way around it.

Waffennacht

Id like to know how you get to those numbers. Like when talking about dps, are we talking about what a dps build pulls off with a group, dedicating no time or effort into movement/heals/buffs etc? Are we talking about somone in maelstrom arena with single target dps?

Personally to find a players dps, I was under the impression you found something like a mammoth and alone killed it and calculated dps from that?

I would like to know, not necessarily what max is, but what is implied during the discussion?

Prabooo

5-10k: low-medium dps
10-15k: good dps
15-20k: very good dps
20k-30k+: excellent

mb10

maxlax28b14_ESO wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Your scenario (sustained fight without buffs / debuffs from your group mates) is very unlikely, so very few players will have their characters build for this situation.
Also which boss would you suggest for testing? Should I get a group of tanks who take care of the axes while I solo the mage in aa?

Agreed. ^
Please specify, what class would you like to see, boss.
Secondly what you ask for is again again IMPOSSIBLE. To ask for no buffs/debuffs is simply not possible, That is what makes our "dps" truly so high. Since you ask for "sustained" dps, do you want a minumum 3 minute fight..? There are so many variables being taken into account. Myself and many other people can pull 28k plus on serpent, but that also translates to 40k if not 50-60k dps on other bosses. But if you take away all the buffs psh maybe that translates to 10-20k because of sustain issues alone.
Lastly asking for dps is asking for who has the biggest epeen, no way around it.

Any class it doesn't matter, you're meant to be giving me that information. I didnt say you cant have buffs I just said you cant from other people, only yourself so rally for example.

Since when does "sustained" mean 3 minutes? just becase your version of sustained is 5 seconds theres no need to go on the offensive with the word and its meaning.

So according to your reply, you can potentially be damaging a boss 50-60k every second and for a sustained amount of time? lol. So with that being said, in 10 seconds, you could half Lord Warden's health on your own?

mb10

Prabooo wrote: »

5-10k: low-medium dps
10-15k: good dps
15-20k: very good dps
20k-30k+: excellent

The guy above you claims he can do 50-60k a second

How would you describe that one then haha

mb10

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Your scenario (sustained fight without buffs / debuffs from your group mates) is very unlikely, so very few players will have their characters build for this situation.
Also which boss would you suggest for testing? Should I get a group of tanks who take care of the axes while I solo the mage in aa?

Im asking you. How much can YOU do a second if you combine your DOT's and the damage your already doing?

It can be any boss ofc they're all different but its a general question or an approximation. No need to look so far into it.

This isnt anything to do with unlikely scenarios for other players.

Johngo0036

On my vr1 stam sorc i managed to do 14.9k dps against one of the world bosses in a sustained fight....

FriedEggSandwich

mb10 wrote: »

Prabooo wrote: »

5-10k: low-medium dps
10-15k: good dps
15-20k: very good dps
20k-30k+: excellent

The guy above you claims he can do 50-60k a second

How would you describe that one then haha

I had a reading of 63k dps once in hel ra (I think). It was at the part where the 12 split into 2 groups of 6. There used to be a bug where the game combined your dps with the other groups, so basically a big fat lie.

Toxie50

Theres a few bosses in AA thats pretty much pure nuke, often i use to do around 19k dps on them and the fight last for about 30sec. Im playing dual wielding NB.

Humatiel

As has been pointed out asking for endgame specs while negating endgame variables is at best a pointless discussion because any number given will be useless for any conceivable reason. If I may ask is this you just not knowing enough about the endgame PvE scene to know specifics on your question or are you asking to form a general "you should be doing at least X at all times regardless of the healer" type of question?

As a general rule (barring environments) I would reasonably expect a vr16 to accomplish at minimum 15k sustained (per accepted standard of 60s fight) on his own.

DschiPeunt

Asking for sustained maximum DPS without group buffs is pointless.

Waffennacht

DschiPeunt wrote: »

Asking for sustained maximum DPS without group buffs is pointless.

Not entirely true... there are soloers out there.

DschiPeunt

Waffennacht wrote: »

DschiPeunt wrote: »

Asking for sustained maximum DPS without group buffs is pointless.

Not entirely true... there are soloers out there.

I know. And I think it's nice to solo some stuff myself. But running around solo has nothing to do with maximum DPS and that's what I am saying. It highly depends on the boss you are fighting and the skills you use to keep yourself alive and buffed.
If OP was asking for an average boss DPS in PUGs for daily pledges, that can be answered. But there is no real answer to solo, maximum and sustained at the same time.

Septimus_Magna

Solo, without group buffs etc, I can deal 30k dps with Overload.

I dont know if that counts as sustained dps because my dps drops to roughly 18k when my ultimate is depleted.

The BiS sorc setup:
5x Julianos
2x Molag Kena
2x Torugs Pact
3x Willpower

Somewhere around 4.4k spell dmg, 42k max magicka and 64% spell crit.

Holy-Dope

Hello there,

DPS nos are very situation/ boss specific and Buffs based. In general, when you are doing normal or veteran 4 man dungeons, ussally if you have 12-15k (sustained) DPS, there should not be any problem given your tank/ healer are experienced as well in knowing the boss mechanics and key movements/ moments.

Now this leads us to the (used to be )Harder content- Trials. Boss's in these trials usually have much higher no of HP vs the boss's in vet delves and require co-ordinate group play with not only sustained DPS but as well good healing/ tanking as well. Now it is very critical to understand that sustain and DPS both depends on the support your team provides. for example-

1. tank/ Healer uses War-horn and providing with Armour debuff
2. Healer- Using Elemental drain/ Combat Prayers/ Siphon spirit etc. and ofc healing.

And since it's a group content so obviously if we try to get sustained DPS for 3 min on our own, it's not impossible to get but is rather to no point besides challenging yourself to stay in a fight for 3 min, and longer the fight, more the chances of mistakes in rotation.

In my guild, to get DPS nos, we have 2 very basic methods and so far they have been pretty consistent when challenged in harder situation.

Tier-1 (non experienced---Med experienced players)- Bloodspawn in Spindleclutch.
Tier-2 (Experienced players--- Hardcore DPS monsters)- Manticora in Sanctum Ophidia

For the Tier-1 test, players are asked to go in the dungeon with 1 Healer and 1 tank, and solo DPS the 2nd boss i.e. Blood Spawn. Now your party will provide you with -

1. Armour Debuf
2. Combat prayers
3. War-horn (1 ideal- 2 better if you can get)
4. Elemental drain/ Siphon spirit/ Spears as required.

Now the fight here is usually 40-90 sec depending on class/ gear/ skill level and gives a decent idea about how much sustained DPS you can pull in a fight where these buffs are usually provided.

For Tier-2, it's simple. We go on our raid, and those who wish to test it, there is no specific requirement because you just do it. usually takes 90-120 sec in the fight, you get all the possible buffs and debufs as well good movement and knowledge of mechanics required.

So in conclusion for Tier-1, you can check your nos accordingly as stated below (these are average nos and there are some absurdly high nos which i'll not mention)

1. Stam/ Mag DK- 25-30k with duration of 40-60 sec.
2. Mag Templar- 23-28k with Duration of 50-70 sec.
3, Magica Nighblades- 25-30k with duration of 40-60 sec.
4. Mag Sorcs- 30-40k with duration of 30-40 sec. (Edit: this is a Overload DPS )
5. Stam nightblade/ Templar- I don't have those nos yet.

I hope my inputs as mentioned above will help people to test their own DPS and any suggestions/ feed-backs are welcome.

Prabooo

mb10 wrote: »

Prabooo wrote: »

5-10k: low-medium dps
10-15k: good dps
15-20k: very good dps
20k-30k+: excellent

The guy above you claims he can do 50-60k a second

How would you describe that one then haha

I would name that one "Demigod rage mode"