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Gamee Economy

MountainHound
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Recently there has been talk of how crap the economy in game has got etc. We all know they need to update sets to v16 and stop making everything Bind on Pick up but I was thinking of how they can add something else to the game, something different which would keep a lot of people happy and get the economy flowing again. Just in case anyone at ZoS does actually read the forums I'd like to make a suggestion even if it is too late as the other stuff is in motion / going to happen.

So PVE players hate PVP, same vice versa. My idea is... why not make Alliance war skills available to be purchased with AP so they can be sold in the form of scrolls? They should not be cheap but buying a scroll that allows the reader to unlock Detonation or caltrops or vigor or whatever skill would IMO be quite cool, unique and keep both PVP and PVE players happy. Now it shouldn't be cheap, ~5million AP seems "reasonable" for detonation and for vigor which requires less AP to be farmed like a cost of 3 million AP or something (Maybe the costs would need to be worked on). It'd also enable people leveling new characters to purchase skills for their alt toons. God you could even make some skills only available to be purchased in the sewers from a vendor with tel var stones.

I know with the reduced AP goals you guys are setting it makes these prices totally expensive but there were other ways you could have gotten the PVP content to PVE players to allow them to get Vigor / Caltrops / Detonation rather than totally nerfing PVP gains. It would have fixed multiple problems.

I was also thinking in terms of PVE undaunted. Why not make the bosses drop a container that contains a random helmet that PVE players can sell and make the undaunted keys sell-able. This would mean the player gets a container (container = 100% helmet inside - trait unknown, could maybe even number rank them, 3 = decent trait, 2 = ok, 1 = *** you it is ***). There would still be a sense of randomness but would have given the PVE players something to sell.

Christ you could even have a 0.5-1% random drop of a scroll that unlocks the undaunted rank to maximum level on a character which would be worth a *** tonne and give PVE players a reason to do the content repeatedly.

Thus a fix to keep everyone happy / get the economy back up. ATM this new system you are introducing seems like a lazy fix.

Post thoughts, even know none of this will happen, what do others think?
  • Morbash
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    So PVE players hate PVP, same vice versa. My idea is... why not make Alliance war skills available to be purchased with AP so they can be sold in the form of scrolls?

    No. Skills shouldn't be purchasable. Besides, I like what they plan on doing with the Alliance War skill lines with the thieves guild update. I have 8 characters. I'd rather have a broken economy than grind out that much gold or AP to access PVP skills. Also, there are better ways to improve ESO's economy. All the devs need to do is scale up old content and gear to max level and change Bind on Pickup items to Bind on Equip.
    I was also thinking in terms of PVE undaunted. Why not make the bosses drop a container that contains a random helmet that PVE players can sell and make the undaunted keys sell-able. This would mean the player gets a container (container = 100% helmet inside - trait unknown, could maybe even number rank them, 3 = decent trait, 2 = ok, 1 = *** you it is ***). There would still be a sense of randomness but would have given the PVE players something to sell.

    I like this idea. Shoulder and helmet drops should be guaranteed. I don't mind if the weight and trait vary, but the drop chance itself needs to be 100%. Maybe even add a chance for the shoulders to drop with the helm. These changes would give players a reason to run the content.
    Edited by Morbash on February 22, 2016 12:16PM
    "War doesn't build character; it reveals it."
  • MountainHound
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    The idea on skills being purchasable was for the PVP players with stocks of AP to purchase / sell them. They'd still be attainable the old way of grinding / PVPing (if someone wishes to do so) but it would be an option for PVP players to make money / PVE players to not have to grind and play PVP.

    This new lowering the PVP ranks still force PVE people to PVP.

    Edited by MountainHound on February 22, 2016 12:28PM
  • Scamandros
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    I would like to use AP to help rehabilitate the local Cropsford goblin clans into non-violent communities, focusing on channeling their anger into creative works and encouraging the unity of our two cultures
    Aeryj
    Fantasia
    Blades of Vengeance


    Mighty Eagle by serjustin19 for your viewing convenience.
    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle.
    I fell out of my nest

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I screech I screech
    but no one hears me

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I started to wonder off
    I want to come back but lost my way.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I came face to face
    Of Mighty Lion

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I came to fall in love with Mighty Lion
    Who's claws is sharp and just

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Then suddenly
    Mighty Dragon Came

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Dragon roared aloud
    Who's mighty paws make earthquake
    that quivers underneath our feet

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Soon battle rages
    Between the Mighty Lion and Mighty Dragon

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    My heart grows heavy
    For who do I belong in Scourge PS4 EU

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I continue to battle.
    But Battle I must do within myself

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I screech, I screech
    Long and hard. I made a fuss

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Then suddenly
    As if I was dreaming

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I heard a screech
    But suddenly, I attack Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle had to defend

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I know I was fighting for Mighty Lion
    So I fought back.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I attack I attack
    But to no avail

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    The Mighty claws who's mighty claws
    Felt unnatural to me and very clumsy to me

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Why I have chosen to not stay with you
    I do not know. I am complicated at that.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I have destroyed Mighty Eagle
    My own kin in Scourge PS4 EU

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I crawled into a ball
    Weep to no avail

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Lost in my whirling thoughts
    My heart and mind is clouded

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I have served Mighty Lion over a year
    I thought Mighty Lion is were I belong anew

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I finally contacted
    Mighty Eagle

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle says they love me
    In reality I love them also.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I continued to clash
    At Mighty Eagle however

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    But clashing with Mighty Eagle
    Just not feel right


    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I have made a wrong choice I now believe
    Terrible and unjust of what I did

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    For am I not a monster
    For attacking a faction who loves me instead

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I was wrong
    Mighty Eagle was right

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Come. Please take me back Mighty Eagle
    For I believe I now know

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Were I truly belong
    For indeed I thought

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    That Mighty Lion
    Is were I belong.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    O how I was so wrong Mighty Eagle
    I was gravely wrong and such a fool I was.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    You have met
    Princess Justine

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Princess Justine who attacked
    Mighty Eagle

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I know this was wrong
    And so to does Princess Justine

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    With our clashing together
    I now know were I truly belong in Scourge PS4 EU I believe.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Have you all not heard
    The famous saying. That is very wise and so very true?

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Let me repeat the famous saying
    that is very wise and so true

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    It is
    My Enemy, Enemy's, Enemy's
    Is my friend

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I come to thee Mighty Eagle
    And so to Princess Justine.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Who used to serve Mighty Lion
    But Now serve Mighty Eagle
    For the very first time in her career.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Princess Justine and are one in the same
    Were I go. She will go to. For she believes it is right choice

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    We are all yours
    O Mighty Eagle

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    No one else but you
    I feel peaceful. Unafraid

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I belong to you O mighty Eagle
    I am so relieved to hear myself to say that

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Princess Justine and I


    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Now flies and fights alongside with Mighty Eagle
    Who's Mighty talons stand for sacred Freedom

    Written by Serjustin19
    Written on this day
    September 27. The day when My troubled mind is not clouded no longer.
    In the year of my troubles end
  • bikerangelo
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    Skills are not the equivalent of screwed up RNG. There is a guaranteed amount of time to obtain skills if you grind AP, whereas Undaunted chests and loot at dungeons are a completely random chance.

    I'm with @Scamandros, the goblins are merely a byproduct of their culture and need a positive change in their environment.

    EDIT: just fyi, this won't do anything for the in-game economy except promote more AP farming.
    Edited by bikerangelo on February 22, 2016 6:29PM
  • Cody
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    Scamandros wrote: »
    I would like to use AP to help rehabilitate the local Cropsford goblin clans into non-violent communities, focusing on channeling their anger into creative works and encouraging the unity of our two cultures

    i will join you on this endeavor.
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