Game performance is atrocious.

Phentos

I just returned to ESO after about 4 months of inactivity. Back then, I was still rocking my ancient GTX 580, and the game ran pretty well on mostly high settings (around 40-55 FPS).

I've since upgraded to an R9 390 and have just come back to the game a week ago. The game runs worse than it did on my 5 year old GTX 580; it never goes above ~35 FPS. Bear in mind that the only graphics setting I've changed since then was textures, set to the highest setting.

Fullscreen vs Windowed makes no difference.

Is this to be expected for someone with an AMD GPU.

Specs:
i7 2600k OC @ 4.7 Ghz
8 GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X RAM
R9 390 OC @ 1140 Mhz.
Crimson 16.1 driver.
Windows 7

LostScot

I've got an R9 380, and at 1920x1080 with the game's graphical presets set to 'High' I get between 60-100 fps most of the time. Unfortunately around the time of the release of the Imperial City update an annoying performance glitch was introduced where my framerate drops down to 10fps quite often, and when it does it stays there for a few seconds before slowly going back up to 60+ fps. When the game goes into that stuttering phase it's difficult to play the game properly, even picking locks on a chest becomes a challenge.

Phentos

LostScot wrote: »

annoying performance glitch was introduced where my framerate drops down to 10fps quite often, and when it does it stays there for a few seconds before slowly going back up to 60+ fps. When the game goes into that stuttering phase it's difficult to play the game properly, even picking locks on a chest becomes a challenge.

Yea I have that problem too. It happens much more often than it did when I had my GTX 580.

khele23eb17_ESO

Phentos wrote: »

I just returned to ESO after about 4 months of inactivity. Back then, I was still rocking my ancient GTX 580, and the game ran pretty well on mostly high settings (around 40-55 FPS).

I've since upgraded to an R9 390 and have just come back to the game a week ago. The game runs worse than it did on my 5 year old GTX 580; it never goes above ~35 FPS. Bear in mind that the only graphics setting I've changed since then was textures, set to the highest setting.

Fullscreen vs Windowed makes no difference.

Is this to be expected for someone with an AMD GPU.

Specs:
i7 2600k OC @ 4.7 Ghz
8 GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X RAM
R9 390 OC @ 1140 Mhz.
Crimson 16.1 driver.
Windows 7

From personal experience - ESO needs a current CPU. I know its weird but when your i7 4720HQ(3.6GHz)+GTX960M laptop runs the game as good as your i7 2600k (4.8GHz)+GTX980ti desktop, you know whats up. Actually its smoother on my laptop because while it rarely goes over 60fps (usually 50-55) it never drops below 40 and the desktop will sometimes even drop below 30 despite the fact that it can reach well over 100fps in less populated areas. This issue will be more pronounced on ATI cards since they are more demanding of your CPU than Nvidia. There's your problem.

Loves_guars

Yep, very similar to my problem. They raised the minimum requirements for the game so now some of us are screwed. I requested a refund but obviously they won't accept it.

This was the thread: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2711470#Comment_2711470

magnusthorek

The only situations in which I have sever FPS drop is while doing trials. In Hel Ra Citadel is, of course, unacceptable, but understandable, since there are A LOT of mobs coming towards you when you sound the horn or in the last fight. But in Sanctum Ophidia, in the very beginning against the Possessed Mantikora, which is ONE (hell of) enemy, I get 4 FPS.

Plus the awful latency, but that's another story...

RinaldoGandolphi

IMO the i7-2600k especially one at 4.7 Ghz is far far far more then enough for ESO.

I have an FX 8350 OC at 4.5Ghz and the game runs smooth as butter for the most part with the exception of large keep battles in Cyrodiil where those zerg balls kill everyones performance due to server lag being so bad you get a red ping then your FPS just nose dives.

I bought an i5-4690k and Overclocked it to around 4.2 Ghz and it got exactly 2 FPS more on average then my Fx 8350 @ 4.5ghz so i sent it and the motherboard back simply because 2 FPS isn't worth 350+ dollars.

I am of the opinion that the majority of folks simply have no idea how to Overclock there components(Im not saying that to be snarky) its just that they believe nonsense parroted on the internet instead of actually looking at the hard specs. I have been OC for well over a decade, and there is a right and wrong way to do it.

For example. The FX 8350 has 3 power states:
4.0Ghz @ 1.35v
4.1Ghz at 1.40v
4.2 Ghz at 1.425v

So when Overclocking this chip, its imperative you NEVER exceed 1.425v on the CPU Vcore or you risk killing the chip with electromigration will degrade your CPU. Temperatures ARE NOT the only thing that kills Silicon, Voltage is a "silent killer"

Tom's Hardware had a very nice write up article on this a few years back

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/automatic-overclock-motherboard-cpu,3048.html

Our overclocking articles often mention a process called electromigration” where material is physically transferred from one part of a circuit to another. While the full description of this phenomenon is complex, it’s easy to understand that an insulator contaminated with conductive particles no longer insulates. Transistor gates function as either insulators or conductors depending on charge state and are particularly prone to this type of damage. And yet, many technology enthusiasts place the blame for a fried processor or GPU solely on heat, ignoring the fact that voltage is a measure of force.

Force causes electromigration, and colder silicon more easily resists that force by being less pliable. Colder temperatures also increase the insulation capabilities of transistor gates in the “off” phase, reducing the number of electrons that are forced through the closed gate. The problem with blaming heat alone on a failure is that moderate increases in electromigration resistance usually require drastic temperature reductions. When it comes to protecting hundreds of dollars in equipment, we always make our recommendations to you erring on the side of caution.

We've learned through trial, error, and dead processors that voltage levels beyond 1.45 V at above-ambient temperatures can kill an Intel CPU etched at 32 nm (Sandy Bridge-based parts included) very quickly. Those same processors die a fairly slow death at voltage levels between 1.40 V and 1.45 V (somewhere between weeks and months on our test benches). And we're expecting more than a year of reliable service from the parts we've dutifully kept below 1.40 V. Not all motherboards are perfect however. Voltage instability on a particularly cheap motherboard fried one of our processors when it was set to only1.38 V. Subsequently, you've seen us use 1.35 V for the overclocking tests in older motherboard round-ups, embracing 1.38 V to 1.40 V in more recent pieces covering higher-end platforms.

Notice the bolded part....Sandy Bridge CPU's(like the i7-2600k) can be killed or severely degraded by running at a voltage beyond 1.4v EVEN WITH WATER COOLING those voltage levels can still degrade your chip, may take weeks, months, even years depending on volts....its not always Temps.

My FX 8350 never goes above 1.38v even under heavy load and i have it set up where it will max at 1.39 which is far below the 1.425v max the chip hits in Turbo State at factory....along with this lower voltage the chip never exceeds 60 on the socket(72 is max socket temp) and 50 on the core (61 is the max core temp) which means there is little to no risk for the chip to degrade.

As for your GPU, anything above 80C is BAD....the absolute Max temp you should ever seen on a GPU is 86C and you don't want to run it for extended periods of time at those temps....80C is the absolute most i would even consider to be comfortable with, and i'd try to keep it below that if possible....even if it meant i had to under clock that 390X a bit, it will run faster with less issues if it runs cooler...IMO cooler is > then higher clocks....90C and higher is only 10C less then the boiling point of water, thats absurdly hot, you could literally cook food at those temps. Even the old 180nm chips back in the day of the Prescott Netburst era didn't get that hot.

Please understand, im not saying this stuff to be snarky, or to come off as condescending. I have just had a lot of experience over the years of folks i know believing some internet forum post and then OC a GPU or a CPU and a few weeks to a few months down the line, things don't work the way they used to, etc. GPU's are far more vulnerable to electromigration issues then CPU's in many ways. Its far easier to damage a GPU then a CPU even though GPU are more tolerant of higher temps, electromigration degradation can happen easier because folks think its safe just because of temps and thats not true with voltage being the silent killer it is, temps are only one part of the equation.

A poster on here a few months back was having issues with this game with his FX 9590 and he had some settings in his BIOS and OC settings on the chip that were flat out wrong, I got him faster OC with lower voltages and temps then he had (maxed at 1.4V) and he has had no issues since and the game runs like a dream for him.....

Perhaps this post will give you some insights on the options available to you. Just remember, if your running that CPU at or above 1.40v vcore your in the danger zone of degrading that chip even if your temps never get close to max due to electromigration as Tom's Hardware tested this extensively and killed quite a few chips on their test benches this way. They expected their overclocked CPU they kept below 1.40v to be safe and last for quite awhile. As for your GPU if its getting close to that 86C range in temps, i'd consider lowering voltages and dialing back the clock a bit to keep it below that...in this case lower will = faster as the GPU won't throttle if it never reaches those temps to begin with which will = it being overall faster.

If i can be of any help to you, feel free to pm me. Take care, and I hope this information helps you. All the best!