vMA last stage: unkillable ash titan (stuck at 0% hp)

LadyNalcarya · February 2016

So... There's an ash titan at the last stage of vMA. I did arena only a few times (had to start recently despite disliking the concept, because I want the weapons), and several times I died on that miniboss because he becomes immune to all damage at 0% of his hp and can still attack me. I tried to kill all the adds, but he still remained unkillable so I had to die and start over.
Sometimes I could kill him just fine, even I did that before the adds spawned.
The question is, how to avoid this? Is there some hidden mechanic? Its really annoying, and any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

P.S. I have serious lag issues on vMA (like if it was located somewhere near Alessia's bridge in Azura's Star), perhaps it might be somehow related? I hope not, because I'm quite fed up with poison hitting me when Im not in red, teleporting crematorial guards and other "fun" stuff.

timidobserver · February 2016

You should not be seeing the Ash Titan ever.

LadyNalcarya · February 2016

@timidobserver wrote: »

You should not be seeing the Ash Titan ever.

Maybe you confuse him with bone colossus?
If not, how to avoid spawning ash titan on stage 9 round 5? He's there even in 400k+ score videos.

andy_s · February 2016

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

P.S. I have serious lag issues on vMA (like if it was located somewhere near Alessia's bridge in Azura's Star), perhaps it might be somehow related? I hope not, because I'm quite fed up with poison hitting me when Im not in red, teleporting crematorial guards and other "fun" stuff.

It is related. When arena laggs, everything happens, like undying mobs, invisibile voids and stuff.

Derra · February 2016

Often when the arena lags npcs get stuck in a script or want to finish an animation first before they can be dmged again.

I´ve had that happen on virtually every boss encounter that involved special animations for the boss (stage 1, 5,7 and ashtitan+boss on stage9)

No idea how to avoid apart from trying to not "kill" the boss while it´s in an animation transition.

LadyNalcarya · February 2016

andy.s wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

P.S. I have serious lag issues on vMA (like if it was located somewhere near Alessia's bridge in Azura's Star), perhaps it might be somehow related? I hope not, because I'm quite fed up with poison hitting me when Im not in red, teleporting crematorial guards and other "fun" stuff.

It is related. When arena laggs, everything happens, like undying mobs, invisibile voids and stuff.

Ah, that's too bad.

I've no idea why I'm getting these lags in solo instance.

Derra wrote: »

Often when the arena lags npcs get stuck in a script or want to finish an animation first before they can be dmged again.

I´ve had that happen on virtually every boss encounter that involved special animations for the boss (stage 1, 5,7 and ashtitan+boss on stage9)

No idea how to avoid apart from trying to not "kill" the boss while it´s in an animation transition.

Thanks, I'll try to keep an eye on these animations.

timmayyyboy · February 2016

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

So... There's an ash titan at the last stage of vMA. I did arena only a few times (had to start recently despite disliking the concept, because I want the weapons), and several times I died on that miniboss because he becomes immune to all damage at 0% of his hp and can still attack me. I tried to kill all the adds, but he still remained unkillable so I had to die and start over.
Sometimes I could kill him just fine, even I did that before the adds spawned.
The question is, how to avoid this? Is there some hidden mechanic? Its really annoying, and any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

P.S. I have serious lag issues on vMA (like if it was located somewhere near Alessia's bridge in Azura's Star), perhaps it might be somehow related? I hope not, because I'm quite fed up with poison hitting me when Im not in red, teleporting crematorial guards and other "fun" stuff.

I also have so many lag issues doing vMSA. Worse then going into azura lol. Had this happen so many times on the ash titan. No idea how to fix it. ZoS needs to take re look at the arena

LadyNalcarya · February 2016

timmayyyboy wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

So... There's an ash titan at the last stage of vMA. I did arena only a few times (had to start recently despite disliking the concept, because I want the weapons), and several times I died on that miniboss because he becomes immune to all damage at 0% of his hp and can still attack me. I tried to kill all the adds, but he still remained unkillable so I had to die and start over.
Sometimes I could kill him just fine, even I did that before the adds spawned.
The question is, how to avoid this? Is there some hidden mechanic? Its really annoying, and any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

P.S. I have serious lag issues on vMA (like if it was located somewhere near Alessia's bridge in Azura's Star), perhaps it might be somehow related? I hope not, because I'm quite fed up with poison hitting me when Im not in red, teleporting crematorial guards and other "fun" stuff.

I also have so many lag issues doing vMSA. Worse then going into azura lol. Had this happen so many times on the ash titan. No idea how to fix it. ZoS needs to take re look at the arena

Yeah, they should. This is just unacceptable for the content that is supposed to be challenging.
My problems with invisible aoes and lag spikes make it very hard to play on anything that is not a sorc (and even a sorc is occasionaly getting insta killed with full hp and 2 shields with a couple of 3k attacks on death recap, not to mention getting stuck in overload and not being able to break free/swap bars). And this bugged titan is already a bit too much.

Strider_Roshin · February 2016

If you're struggling with the ash titan, you're really going to hate what's coming next.

LadyNalcarya · February 2016

@Strider_Roshin wrote: »

If you're struggling with the ash titan, you're really going to hate what's coming next.

Read my post pls? I finished vMA several times without any issues with difficulty.
He just gets stuck with empty healthbar sometimes, that's the issue.
P.S. And all bugs Im talking about are not related to mechanics and l2p. I would've recorded that, but Im afraid that with recording software the arena will be completely unplayable.

LadyNalcarya · February 2016

Before anyone accuses me in "l2p issues" again...
I searched the forums and found a video of simular bug.

Still would be nice to find a way to avoid this problem... Or preferably get it fixed

Strider_Roshin · February 2016

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin wrote: »

If you're struggling with the ash titan, you're really going to hate what's coming next.

Read my post pls? I finished vMA several times without any issues with difficulty.
He just gets stuck with empty healthbar sometimes, that's the issue.
P.S. And all bugs Im talking about are not related to mechanics and l2p. I would've recorded that, but Im afraid that with recording software the arena will be completely unplayable.

Next stage: invincible crystals

LadyNalcarya · February 2016

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin wrote: »

If you're struggling with the ash titan, you're really going to hate what's coming next.

Read my post pls? I finished vMA several times without any issues with difficulty.
He just gets stuck with empty healthbar sometimes, that's the issue.
P.S. And all bugs Im talking about are not related to mechanics and l2p. I would've recorded that, but Im afraid that with recording software the arena will be completely unplayable.

Next stage: invincible crystals

Dont scare me like this

Seriosly though, 90% of vMA "difficulty" is broken hitboxes and bugs. Otherwise its not very complicated. That's a shame.

Strider_Roshin · February 2016

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin wrote: »

If you're struggling with the ash titan, you're really going to hate what's coming next.

Read my post pls? I finished vMA several times without any issues with difficulty.
He just gets stuck with empty healthbar sometimes, that's the issue.
P.S. And all bugs Im talking about are not related to mechanics and l2p. I would've recorded that, but Im afraid that with recording software the arena will be completely unplayable.

Next stage: invincible crystals

Dont scare me like this
Seriosly though, 90% of vMA "difficulty" is broken hitboxes and bugs. Otherwise its not very complicated. That's a shame.

Yeah spontaneous mushroom growth within protective bubbles isn't very fun either lol

LadyNalcarya · February 2016

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin wrote: »

If you're struggling with the ash titan, you're really going to hate what's coming next.

Read my post pls? I finished vMA several times without any issues with difficulty.
He just gets stuck with empty healthbar sometimes, that's the issue.
P.S. And all bugs Im talking about are not related to mechanics and l2p. I would've recorded that, but Im afraid that with recording software the arena will be completely unplayable.

Next stage: invincible crystals

Dont scare me like this
Seriosly though, 90% of vMA "difficulty" is broken hitboxes and bugs. Otherwise its not very complicated. That's a shame.

Yeah spontaneous mushroom growth within protective bubbles isn't very fun either lol

Haha especially when their actual radius is bigger than red circle XD

squinceybones · May 2017

Just had this happen to me, super glad i choked my flawless on rnd 3 of the last stage if i lost it to a bug would have not been impressed. Apparently the bug was "fixed" ages ago... but what ZoS's definition of fixed means, nobody knows. I didn't have any lag however, just a typical destro ult burn, everything was going smooth.

WarpigFunk · May 2017

If you're lagging hard - sometimes you can get killed but it takes awhile for the game to register your death properly - and you'll continue fighting as if the fatal attack was never recorded - and the boss will even get to 0 health but wont die ... and then everything catches up and you die thinking the boss was glitched, when in reality you were actually dead for the last 30 seconds or a minute without realizing it.

That might be whats happening... might not - i dunno.

ZOS_Bill · May 2017

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