Advice: Dual Wielding Dunmer DK

Platorian

Hey Guys

This is probably a tedious question, but to put you in the picture, I’ve not long returned to the game, just reached Vet 16 and I’m looking to craft myself some Vet 16 armor, now what with the mental rubedite ore requirements per piece of Vet 16 crafted gear I want to make the armor once and only once, not mess it up by making the wrong set etc. So, I’m a Dunmer DK, primarily stamina abilities and a vampire. I’m wondering what’s the best mixture of sets to use? From everyone’s experience, I’ve looked around but to be honest and I’m not sure what is best.

In addition with regards to a good build, I want to optimise my damage for dungeons and PVP as well as PVE, now I know there’s no overall that’s best for all and maybe it’s best not to mix? But what advice to you other DK’s have for me? It’s all new to me and I’m not entirely sure. I’ve looked and quite fancy the following builds, any of yoo used them?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/230612/build-orsinium-update-stamina-dk-dps-off-tank-for-pvp-pve

http://esoacademy.com/builds/alduins-breath-pvp-dk-build/


I’m a dual wielder with 50/50, my bow has 50/50 and my sword and board is 50/50, 2H isn’t very high as I’ve never used it and staffs are all under level 15.

So any help I could get from you experienced guys would be awesome.

Thanks

Acsvf

Probably valkyn skoria and hunding's rage would be quite good.
I'd suggest you wait until Thieves Guild is out in a couple weeks until you decide to craft anything, though. V16 gear isn't cheap.

Warraxx

level up 2H, you're still using both hands; just pretend its DW.

Platorian

Acsvf wrote: »

Probably valkyn skoria and hunding's rage would be quite good.
I'd suggest you wait until Thieves Guild is out in a couple weeks until you decide to craft anything, though. V16 gear isn't cheap.

I was thinking that as well to be honest, is Thieves guild staying at Vet 16 as opposed to raising to Vet 18? Sure I read Vet ranks are being pulled in Dark Brotherhood patch in Q2?

Valkyn Skorai is that the monster head/shoulders from Vet Dungeons/undaunted right?
I'm currently running Vet 13 gear with 5/5 Huindings Rage and 4/5 Nightmother sets. Haven't upgraded yet as I was power leveling through.

Think I'll make Vet 15 gear as it's cheaper and see what happens once Thieves guidld knocks out

Warraxx wrote: »

level up 2H, you're still using both hands; just pretend its DW.

What's DW? :P I'm planning on levelling up 2H up to be honest, reading around I read it was better DPS.




Thanks both for the responses, still not sure what build to go for though with regards to dealing damage in PVP/PVE, any ideas?

ryanborror

Stam dk run dual wield bow for pve. 2 hand for pvp

Johngo0036

Dual wield(dw)steel tornado for mobs puts out Insane DPS,
and 2H, Wrecking, executioner and light attacks insane single target DPS

Brrrofski

Hunding's as default 5 piece.

If you can craft 9, morkuldin for the rest

If not, maybe 1 piece bloodspawn, 1 kena, 2 of anything that gives you stam or regen. Your BoE won't be a set then, unless you have master/maelstrom.

Or 1 kena or bloodspawn, then 3 ashen?

A better option will be available with TG. There is a set which gives 2 piece weapon damage.Gives a lot more options.

I would suggest bloodspawn, or something with regen in as tou'reca dumner so will lack some natural regen. Unless you plan on running drinks

Honestly though, 2h and bow is so much better for pvp imo. Gap closer, Major brutality, heal, burst move and execute. The only thing you'll lose out on is aoe (you'll still get movement from bow). Something to consider before using mats.

Septimus_Magna

For my stam NB im using the following setup:

4x Morkuldin
3x Agility (3x weapon dmg enchants)
3x Ashen Grip
1x Molag Kena
1x Blood Spawn

DW/2H with 6x MA/1x HA

4.1k weapon dmg (out of stealth) with only main hand weapon gold.
2.4k stam regen
1.1k mag regen

Im using v15 stam/mag regen drinks.

Platorian

ryanborror wrote: »

Stam dk run dual wield bow for pve. 2 hand for pvp

That's what I was doing and started levelling my 2H now, haven't really bothered but read the DPS is better.

Johngo0036 wrote: »

Dual wield(dw)steel tornado for mobs puts out Insane DPS,
and 2H, Wrecking, executioner and light attacks insane single target DPS

I have been using steel torndao on mobs already, especially grinding in the imperial city sewers! I noticed that I was getting smashed by Wreckin in the imperial city too, 9/10 it was the killing blow, ranging from 10-18k damage o.o!

Brrrofski wrote: »

Hunding's as default 5 piece.

If you can craft 9, morkuldin for the rest

If not, maybe 1 piece bloodspawn, 1 kena, 2 of anything that gives you stam or regen. Your BoE won't be a set then, unless you have master/maelstrom.

Or 1 kena or bloodspawn, then 3 ashen?

A better option will be available with TG. There is a set which gives 2 piece weapon damage.Gives a lot more options.

I would suggest bloodspawn, or something with regen in as tou'reca dumner so will lack some natural regen. Unless you plan on running drinks

Honestly though, 2h and bow is so much better for pvp imo. Gap closer, Major brutality, heal, burst move and execute. The only thing you'll lose out on is aoe (you'll still get movement from bow). Something to consider before using mats.

I honestly dont even know what half the things you said mean lol.

I'm currently runing 5/5 Hundings Rage set so I'm doing something right. The Morkuldin set does really appeal to me, right now all my armor / weapons are at 7/8 traits learnt and my 1h swords are at 9 traits. I'm working on these, but it will be literally 2 months before I've got 9 traits in all, unless I find someone to craft armor for me? lol. I opted for the night mothers set for 4/5 on the rest, all heavy.

From what I'm reading set wise I seem to be doing alright, maybe I was feeling a little inadequate as I was running around with Vet 13 gear in the Vet 16 areas?

What I need now is to know which ring/necklace sets to get and where to get them? I've never really found any good drops for these!! and what Glyphs to use, I heard something about prismatic glyphs which give stam/health and magicka? Is that right? I imagine they are expensive to make? lol

hrothbern

Platorian wrote: »

ryanborror wrote: »

Stam dk run dual wield bow for pve. 2 hand for pvp

That's what I was doing and started levelling my 2H now, haven't really bothered but read the DPS is better.

Johngo0036 wrote: »

Dual wield(dw)steel tornado for mobs puts out Insane DPS,
and 2H, Wrecking, executioner and light attacks insane single target DPS

I have been using steel torndao on mobs already, especially grinding in the imperial city sewers! I noticed that I was getting smashed by Wreckin in the imperial city too, 9/10 it was the killing blow, ranging from 10-18k damage o.o!

Brrrofski wrote: »

Hunding's as default 5 piece.

If you can craft 9, morkuldin for the rest

If not, maybe 1 piece bloodspawn, 1 kena, 2 of anything that gives you stam or regen. Your BoE won't be a set then, unless you have master/maelstrom.

Or 1 kena or bloodspawn, then 3 ashen?

A better option will be available with TG. There is a set which gives 2 piece weapon damage.Gives a lot more options.

I would suggest bloodspawn, or something with regen in as tou'reca dumner so will lack some natural regen. Unless you plan on running drinks

Honestly though, 2h and bow is so much better for pvp imo. Gap closer, Major brutality, heal, burst move and execute. The only thing you'll lose out on is aoe (you'll still get movement from bow). Something to consider before using mats.

I honestly dont even know what half the things you said mean lol.

I'm currently runing 5/5 Hundings Rage set so I'm doing something right. The Morkuldin set does really appeal to me, right now all my armor / weapons are at 7/8 traits learnt and my 1h swords are at 9 traits. I'm working on these, but it will be literally 2 months before I've got 9 traits in all, unless I find someone to craft armor for me? lol. I opted for the night mothers set for 4/5 on the rest, all heavy.

From what I'm reading set wise I seem to be doing alright, maybe I was feeling a little inadequate as I was running around with Vet 13 gear in the Vet 16 areas?

What I need now is to know which ring/necklace sets to get and where to get them? I've never really found any good drops for these!! and what Glyphs to use, I heard something about prismatic glyphs which give stam/health and magicka? Is that right? I imagine they are expensive to make? lol

you sa:y
From what I'm reading set wise I seem to be doing alright, maybe I was feeling a little inadequate as I was running around with Vet 13 gear in the Vet 16 areas?

Vet 13 or Vet 16 does make a difference.
Getting Vet 16 weapons gold will give you a lot more damage

Platorian

hrothbern wrote: »

Platorian wrote: »

ryanborror wrote: »

Stam dk run dual wield bow for pve. 2 hand for pvp

That's what I was doing and started levelling my 2H now, haven't really bothered but read the DPS is better.

Johngo0036 wrote: »

Dual wield(dw)steel tornado for mobs puts out Insane DPS,
and 2H, Wrecking, executioner and light attacks insane single target DPS

I have been using steel torndao on mobs already, especially grinding in the imperial city sewers! I noticed that I was getting smashed by Wreckin in the imperial city too, 9/10 it was the killing blow, ranging from 10-18k damage o.o!

Brrrofski wrote: »

Hunding's as default 5 piece.

If you can craft 9, morkuldin for the rest

If not, maybe 1 piece bloodspawn, 1 kena, 2 of anything that gives you stam or regen. Your BoE won't be a set then, unless you have master/maelstrom.

Or 1 kena or bloodspawn, then 3 ashen?

A better option will be available with TG. There is a set which gives 2 piece weapon damage.Gives a lot more options.

I would suggest bloodspawn, or something with regen in as tou'reca dumner so will lack some natural regen. Unless you plan on running drinks

Honestly though, 2h and bow is so much better for pvp imo. Gap closer, Major brutality, heal, burst move and execute. The only thing you'll lose out on is aoe (you'll still get movement from bow). Something to consider before using mats.

I honestly dont even know what half the things you said mean lol.

I'm currently runing 5/5 Hundings Rage set so I'm doing something right. The Morkuldin set does really appeal to me, right now all my armor / weapons are at 7/8 traits learnt and my 1h swords are at 9 traits. I'm working on these, but it will be literally 2 months before I've got 9 traits in all, unless I find someone to craft armor for me? lol. I opted for the night mothers set for 4/5 on the rest, all heavy.

From what I'm reading set wise I seem to be doing alright, maybe I was feeling a little inadequate as I was running around with Vet 13 gear in the Vet 16 areas?

What I need now is to know which ring/necklace sets to get and where to get them? I've never really found any good drops for these!! and what Glyphs to use, I heard something about prismatic glyphs which give stam/health and magicka? Is that right? I imagine they are expensive to make? lol

you sa:y
From what I'm reading set wise I seem to be doing alright, maybe I was feeling a little inadequate as I was running around with Vet 13 gear in the Vet 16 areas?

Vet 13 or Vet 16 does make a difference.
Getting Vet 16 weapons gold will give you a lot more damage

made a complete Vet 15 set last night, improved everything to green level and weapons to blue for the moment, Vet 16 weapons much different from vet 15?

hrothbern

Platorian wrote: »

hrothbern wrote: »

Platorian wrote: »

ryanborror wrote: »

Stam dk run dual wield bow for pve. 2 hand for pvp

That's what I was doing and started levelling my 2H now, haven't really bothered but read the DPS is better.

Johngo0036 wrote: »

Dual wield(dw)steel tornado for mobs puts out Insane DPS,
and 2H, Wrecking, executioner and light attacks insane single target DPS

I have been using steel torndao on mobs already, especially grinding in the imperial city sewers! I noticed that I was getting smashed by Wreckin in the imperial city too, 9/10 it was the killing blow, ranging from 10-18k damage o.o!

Brrrofski wrote: »

Hunding's as default 5 piece.

If you can craft 9, morkuldin for the rest

If not, maybe 1 piece bloodspawn, 1 kena, 2 of anything that gives you stam or regen. Your BoE won't be a set then, unless you have master/maelstrom.

Or 1 kena or bloodspawn, then 3 ashen?

A better option will be available with TG. There is a set which gives 2 piece weapon damage.Gives a lot more options.

I would suggest bloodspawn, or something with regen in as tou'reca dumner so will lack some natural regen. Unless you plan on running drinks

Honestly though, 2h and bow is so much better for pvp imo. Gap closer, Major brutality, heal, burst move and execute. The only thing you'll lose out on is aoe (you'll still get movement from bow). Something to consider before using mats.

I honestly dont even know what half the things you said mean lol.

I'm currently runing 5/5 Hundings Rage set so I'm doing something right. The Morkuldin set does really appeal to me, right now all my armor / weapons are at 7/8 traits learnt and my 1h swords are at 9 traits. I'm working on these, but it will be literally 2 months before I've got 9 traits in all, unless I find someone to craft armor for me? lol. I opted for the night mothers set for 4/5 on the rest, all heavy.

From what I'm reading set wise I seem to be doing alright, maybe I was feeling a little inadequate as I was running around with Vet 13 gear in the Vet 16 areas?

What I need now is to know which ring/necklace sets to get and where to get them? I've never really found any good drops for these!! and what Glyphs to use, I heard something about prismatic glyphs which give stam/health and magicka? Is that right? I imagine they are expensive to make? lol

you sa:y
From what I'm reading set wise I seem to be doing alright, maybe I was feeling a little inadequate as I was running around with Vet 13 gear in the Vet 16 areas?

Vet 13 or Vet 16 does make a difference.
Getting Vet 16 weapons gold will give you a lot more damage

made a complete Vet 15 set last night, improved everything to green level and weapons to blue for the moment, Vet 16 weapons much different from vet 15?

Yesss

Do not know the exact value anymore, but something like 200 (golden)

Platorian

hrothbern wrote: »

Platorian wrote: »

hrothbern wrote: »

Platorian wrote: »

ryanborror wrote: »

Stam dk run dual wield bow for pve. 2 hand for pvp

That's what I was doing and started levelling my 2H now, haven't really bothered but read the DPS is better.

Johngo0036 wrote: »

Dual wield(dw)steel tornado for mobs puts out Insane DPS,
and 2H, Wrecking, executioner and light attacks insane single target DPS

I have been using steel torndao on mobs already, especially grinding in the imperial city sewers! I noticed that I was getting smashed by Wreckin in the imperial city too, 9/10 it was the killing blow, ranging from 10-18k damage o.o!

Brrrofski wrote: »

Hunding's as default 5 piece.

If you can craft 9, morkuldin for the rest

If not, maybe 1 piece bloodspawn, 1 kena, 2 of anything that gives you stam or regen. Your BoE won't be a set then, unless you have master/maelstrom.

Or 1 kena or bloodspawn, then 3 ashen?

A better option will be available with TG. There is a set which gives 2 piece weapon damage.Gives a lot more options.

I would suggest bloodspawn, or something with regen in as tou'reca dumner so will lack some natural regen. Unless you plan on running drinks

Honestly though, 2h and bow is so much better for pvp imo. Gap closer, Major brutality, heal, burst move and execute. The only thing you'll lose out on is aoe (you'll still get movement from bow). Something to consider before using mats.

I honestly dont even know what half the things you said mean lol.

I'm currently runing 5/5 Hundings Rage set so I'm doing something right. The Morkuldin set does really appeal to me, right now all my armor / weapons are at 7/8 traits learnt and my 1h swords are at 9 traits. I'm working on these, but it will be literally 2 months before I've got 9 traits in all, unless I find someone to craft armor for me? lol. I opted for the night mothers set for 4/5 on the rest, all heavy.

From what I'm reading set wise I seem to be doing alright, maybe I was feeling a little inadequate as I was running around with Vet 13 gear in the Vet 16 areas?

What I need now is to know which ring/necklace sets to get and where to get them? I've never really found any good drops for these!! and what Glyphs to use, I heard something about prismatic glyphs which give stam/health and magicka? Is that right? I imagine they are expensive to make? lol

you sa:y
From what I'm reading set wise I seem to be doing alright, maybe I was feeling a little inadequate as I was running around with Vet 13 gear in the Vet 16 areas?

Vet 13 or Vet 16 does make a difference.
Getting Vet 16 weapons gold will give you a lot more damage

made a complete Vet 15 set last night, improved everything to green level and weapons to blue for the moment, Vet 16 weapons much different from vet 15?

Yesss

Do not know the exact value anymore, but something like 200 (golden)

Think I'll make some gold Weapons then for a start Vet 16 and go from there cheers

Platorian

and keep collecting the monstrous tooth and bloody claws, get my hands on the agility sets if I can!

hrothbern

Platorian wrote: »

and keep collecting the monstrous tooth and bloody claws, get my hands on the agility sets if I can!

yip... IC jewelry is good

Platorian

hrothbern wrote: »

Platorian wrote: »

and keep collecting the monstrous tooth and bloody claws, get my hands on the agility sets if I can!

yip... IC jewelry is good

Cheers, appreciate the help. Still not sure on builds though, where to put my attribute points into (currently 10 in health and the rest are in stamina).

As for champion points, mainly in Mighty, Mooncalf, Elemental resist at the moment!