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PAY-TO-WIN is REAL [proof inside]
JapanesePlayer
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with any DLC ZOS nowadays adding ~4-7 new crafting motifs
each motif need a style material to craft, sometimes a raw version too
but with TG DLC they added 7 motifs
with DB - 6, based on datamine there - http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/247294/dark-brotherhood-datamine-styles-crafting-tier-anniversary-items-and-more/p1
you can jsut imagine how many motifs will be in a year for example...
and how many slots you can save you you will buy stones in CROWN STORE
each motif need a style material to craft, sometimes a raw version too
but with TG DLC they added 7 motifs
with DB - 6, based on datamine there - http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/247294/dark-brotherhood-datamine-styles-crafting-tier-anniversary-items-and-more/p1
you can jsut imagine how many motifs will be in a year for example...
and how many slots you can save you you will buy stones in CROWN STORE
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Nirvava4EM✭✭How is this even CLOSE to pay to win?!XB1 - NA GT: HematoCRITICAL
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JapanesePlayer✭✭✭Nirvava4EM wrote: »How is this even CLOSE to pay to win?!
you save 39 slots in your bank and fill em with perfect sets etc
people who cannot donate will have less set items and such0 -
Nirvava4EM✭✭Crafting styles have ZERO effect on your ability to win the game.XB1 - NA GT: HematoCRITICAL
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Can literally craft anything and everything that is craftable, limited styles.10 -
JapanesePlayer✭✭✭Nirvava4EM wrote: »Crafting styles have ZERO effect on your ability to win the game.
after a year you will have 150 place in you bank claimed by different styles
but donator will have top items instead of those style stones you have0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So, saving 38 inventory slots will make me win? Interesting
Btw, i only keep a stack of starmetal in inventory, for crafting writs. Why permanently block so many slots with materials i can easily acquire ad-hoc should i sometime decide to craft something ugly? 0 -
JapanesePlayer✭✭✭Kippesnikke wrote: »this is without hesitation the dumbest post i've ever seen in my life. it litteraly hurts my eyes.
i can suggest you to think, and buy a medicine for your poor eyes!0 -
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✭✭I dunno, I don't really see this as paying to win.
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✭✭✭✭✭JapanesePlayer wrote: »Nirvava4EM wrote: »How is this even CLOSE to pay to win?!
you save 39 slots in your bank and fill em with perfect sets etc
people who cannot donate will have less set items and such
Or you can just not hoard a bunch of useless items that have no influence on the power of your crafted equipment and save all these slots.
You can live with just you own racial style, and then you will only need your own racial style's stone. Anything else is cosmetic only.Edited by Abeille on February 14, 2016 2:01PMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.1 -
Mickey_Ox✭✭✭✭i can totally see being able to beat someone because i own 4 more style motifs than them. LOL #P2W-FTWEver Tried, Ever Failed,
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I lol'd.
If that is your logic, then simply being able to purchase bank upgrades is P2W.
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Nirvava4EM✭✭JapanesePlayer wrote: »Nirvava4EM wrote: »How is this even CLOSE to pay to win?!
you save 39 slots in your bank and fill em with perfect sets etc
people who cannot donate will have less set items and such
That is SUCH a stretch. I have max bank space and max bag space on two characters...I barely have either character at half way and my bank is only holding like 90 crafting items.
Plus, I believe ibread that crafting bags are coming which would allow infinite space for crafting materials. This allow destroies your pay to win "proof".XB1 - NA GT: HematoCRITICAL
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✭Kippesnikke wrote: »this is without hesitation the dumbest post i've ever seen in my life. it litteraly hurts my eyes.
Agreed!
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Refuse2GrowUp✭✭✭✭✭JapanesePlayer wrote: »Nirvava4EM wrote: »Crafting styles have ZERO effect on your ability to win the game.
after a year you will have 150 place in you bank claimed by different styles
but donator will have top items instead of those style stones you have
Lol, there will be crafting bags so your point is moot. But of course, you will claim crafting bags are pay to win. In the end, you will out grow the short bus, you will have to put away the football helmet and chin sponge, and you will enter the real world. Hopefully, then you will not be compelled to post such non-sense.PS4 NA Server
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JapanesePlayer✭✭✭cmon guys i photoshoped this picture near an hour
i need someone who will agree with me!0 -
Spottswoode✭✭✭✭✭And now I avoid the forums for the rest of the day. Hopefully I won't get a migraine from this.Proud Player of The Elder Bank Screen Online.
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Ra'Shtar✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm sorry Japa but lol man inventory space is not that big of a deal unless you are a crafter and in no way it gives you advantage in terms of power over someone because you have 39 more open slots than the guy besides you XDEdited by Ra'Shtar on February 14, 2016 2:11PMSome of my favorite screenshots
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Crafting styles is no way a P2W plus ZOS even said that ESO plus members will be getting special crafters bags with active memebership that will put all crafting materials into one special bag to take up less room in both their bags and bank when U10 comes around.
What will free bag space be P2W now too?0 -
Nirvava4EM✭✭JapanesePlayer wrote: »cmon guys i photoshoped this picture near an hour
i need someone who will agree with me!
Think about it, for that hour you could have been PLAYING to win...XB1 - NA GT: HematoCRITICAL
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lolJapanesePlayer wrote: »cmon guys i photoshoped this picture near an hour
i need someone who will agree with me!
I think you might want to present something more combat related next time.Edited by Acsvf on February 14, 2016 2:13PM@LightArray
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Here's an example of Pay 2 win.
Runescape: Buy spins obtain powerful weapons or a lot of cash; Spins cost real money.
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✭✭✭✭✭JapanesePlayer wrote: »cmon guys i photoshoped this picture near an hour
i need someone who will agree with me!
I won't agree with you, sorry ! It's convenience, not P2W.
Still I'm very grateful to you for doing and sharing datamining, it's great, and such a teaser ! 0 -
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Nirvava4EM✭✭Dang, Molag Kena just killed me and in the death recap tips it said that having 39 open spots is MK's weakness. I'm switching sides, JapaP is right, this is totally pay to winXB1 - NA GT: HematoCRITICAL
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Can literally craft anything and everything that is craftable, limited styles.2 -
I55UE5✭✭✭Yup this is all the proof I need. I give ESO 2 more days before they have to take servers down for financial reasons.Edited by I55UE5 on February 14, 2016 2:19PM0 -
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✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »JapanesePlayer wrote: »cmon guys i photoshoped this picture near an hour
i need someone who will agree with me!
I won't agree with you, sorry ! It's convenience, not P2W.
Still I'm very grateful to you for doing and sharing datamining, it's great, and such a teaser !
Data mine ? The mici stones are in the crown shop on the U9/TG PTS right now.0 -
JapanesePlayer✭✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »JapanesePlayer wrote: »cmon guys i photoshoped this picture near an hour
i need someone who will agree with me!
I won't agree with you, sorry ! It's convenience, not P2W.
Still I'm very grateful to you for doing and sharing datamining, it's great, and such a teaser !
Data mine ? The mici stones are in the crown shop on the U9/TG PTS right now.
he told about other my topic linked in first post0
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