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Racial Changes PLEASEEEEEE

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I know this is a very heated topic but I really do believe racial changes need to come... I'm really tired of hearing "its coming soon" or "we're working on it" as that has been clearly false... I've been hearing it for a long time, but what it comes down to, is that mostly those that have V16's, really don't feel like re-rolling characters to make a new magicka or stamina build.. Please help the community, and do something to implement this in the crown store or quest, etc.... This will help many people in this game including myself that chose characters with racial passives that don't match their build.. If anything please gives us some sort of time frame (ex.Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood DLC's or 1st/2nd/3rd/4th quarter of year).. Just help us and give us some info on when this could possibly be implemented into the game..
  • Katahdin
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    They have said it is coming this year. If not with the Thieves Guild then with Dark Brotherhood IF I recall correctly.
    Beta tester November 2013
  • leepalmer95
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    Should be with thieves guild :( , don't make so many class changes and keep people stuck with their race.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Katahdin
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    They said class changes wouldnt happen
    Beta tester November 2013
  • xXSKILLZBRUHXx
    Katahdin wrote: »
    They have said it is coming this year. If not with the Thieves Guild then with Dark Brotherhood IF I recall correctly.

    I have heard that but we honestly need to know exactly when... Like when the DLC drops or a couple weeks into the DLC etc....
  • xXSKILLZBRUHXx
    Should be with thieves guild :( , don't make so many class changes and keep people stuck with their race.

    totally agreeeeee
  • Alucardo
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    They said class changes wouldnt happen

    Nobody asked for a class change
  • xXSKILLZBRUHXx
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    They said class changes wouldnt happen

    Nobody asked for a class change

    alwaysss been for racial changesss
  • Duiwel
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    I support - Race changes, because many people didn't know about racial passives or clipping ( when picking a beast race for example )

    I do not support full blown re-customization of your character's features, they should only allow facial hair, hair, hair colour & tattoos in my opinion, perhaps other adornments such as make up, earrings and other jewellery also, but that's it.

    I am glad class changes won't happen.

    Lucky for you it's on the "Coming Soon" list, so don't fret you will soon be able to change your race. Word of advice don't pick a race simply because of a patch, a rule of thumb is pick a good race for the class.

    At least this time "Coming Soon" means before August :tongue:
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  • Katahdin
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    They said class changes wouldnt happen

    Nobody asked for a class change
    don't make so many class changes and keep people stuck with their race.
    Beta tester November 2013
  • flguy147ub17_ESO
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    Yeah instead of making money off me, i just unsubbed and havent played a couple days cause i rolled a stamina DK which i dont like and want to switch to magicka but cant without sucking since i am a Redguard. I wont reroll cause i just dont have the time to do it all over again. My time is very limited so rerolling just wont work for me so they lost one player because of it but they probably dont care i am just 1 guy.
  • xXSKILLZBRUHXx
    Duiwel wrote: »
    I support - Race changes, because many people didn't know about racial passives or clipping ( when picking a beast race for example )

    I do not support full blown re-customization of your character's features, they should only allow facial hair, hair, hair colour & tattoos in my opinion, perhaps other adornments such as make up, earrings and other jewellery also, but that's it.

    I am glad class changes won't happen.

    Lucky for you it's on the "Coming Soon" list, so don't fret you will soon be able to change your race. Word of advice don't pick a race simply because of a patch, a rule of thumb is pick a good race for the class.

    At least this time "Coming Soon" means before August :tongue:

    hopefullyy :no_mouth:
  • xXSKILLZBRUHXx
    Yeah instead of making money off me, i just unsubbed and havent played a couple days cause i rolled a stamina DK which i dont like and want to switch to magicka but cant without sucking since i am a Redguard. I wont reroll cause i just dont have the time to do it all over again. My time is very limited so rerolling just wont work for me so they lost one player because of it but they probably dont care i am just 1 guy.

    I feel your pain man.. With all these new class balances/changes people are gonna want to test/change builds between magicka and stam.. ZOS needs to accommodate this for us or more people will leave this game.. :confused:
  • TheShadowScout
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    Race change will almost certainly come hand-in-hand with character recustomization features. Since people who change their race will very likely not just want to pray the slider settings that looked good on their bosmer will make for a decent appereance when turning khajiit, but will want to adjust things. So any race change without character edit option would be a really stupid idea...

    And as they announced in their year ahead...
    Longer term, expect to see information about systems like a character customization shop so you can change your character's gender, appearance, name, etc., player housing, and other systems that we'll announce in the future. We'll have much more information about all of these as the year progresses.
    ...which I take to mean all that will come after the Dark Brotherhood DLC. :disappointed:

    Of course, many here really, really want this sooner.
    Me among them.
    So many small things I want to adjust to get my characters just perfect... things that looked all right in chargen, but not so much in live game when in motion or something... a hip shape here, a hand shape there, a voice change here, a renaming there... that sort of thing. And since we have been asking for this since... well, since launch, really... patience is wearing thin.
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    Sooner! Sooner ! Sooner! ;)
  • xXSKILLZBRUHXx
    Race change will almost certainly come hand-in-hand with character recustomization features. Since people who change their race will very likely not just want to pray the slider settings that looked good on their bosmer will make for a decent appereance when turning khajiit, but will want to adjust things. So any race change without character edit option would be a really stupid idea...

    And as they announced in their year ahead...
    Longer term, expect to see information about systems like a character customization shop so you can change your character's gender, appearance, name, etc., player housing, and other systems that we'll announce in the future. We'll have much more information about all of these as the year progresses.
    ...which I take to mean all that will come after the Dark Brotherhood DLC. :disappointed:

    Of course, many here really, really want this sooner.
    Me among them.
    So many small things I want to adjust to get my characters just perfect... things that looked all right in chargen, but not so much in live game when in motion or something... a hip shape here, a hand shape there, a voice change here, a renaming there... that sort of thing. And since we have been asking for this since... well, since launch, really... patience is wearing thin.
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    Sooner! Sooner ! Sooner! ;)

    very trueee :relieved:
  • Miszou
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    As an Argonian, I laugh at your "need" for a racial change because you feel underpowered.
  • xXSKILLZBRUHXx
    Miszou wrote: »
    As an Argonian, I laugh at your "need" for a racial change because you feel underpowered.

    what if I was your argonian brother :trollface:
  • flguy147ub17_ESO
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    Yeah instead of making money off me, i just unsubbed and havent played a couple days cause i rolled a stamina DK which i dont like and want to switch to magicka but cant without sucking since i am a Redguard. I wont reroll cause i just dont have the time to do it all over again. My time is very limited so rerolling just wont work for me so they lost one player because of it but they probably dont care i am just 1 guy.

    I feel your pain man.. With all these new class balances/changes people are gonna want to test/change builds between magicka and stam.. ZOS needs to accommodate this for us or more people will leave this game.. :confused:

    Yeah i played Magicka DK on PC launch and just loved all the DK abilities but wanted to try the stamina side of it and the abilities are just boring to me. WB is about the most boring ability i have ever used no matter how effective it can be in PVP. Its not about having the best class or most OP class, its about me logging on and having fun playing a class i have fun with. And i came back on PS4 and no longer have my PC so i cant play my old magicka DK anymore. And i cant do a magicka DK being a Redguard since he is all stamina, it will just be hard to do.
    Edited by flguy147ub17_ESO on February 5, 2016 6:59AM
  • xXSKILLZBRUHXx
    Yeah instead of making money off me, i just unsubbed and havent played a couple days cause i rolled a stamina DK which i dont like and want to switch to magicka but cant without sucking since i am a Redguard. I wont reroll cause i just dont have the time to do it all over again. My time is very limited so rerolling just wont work for me so they lost one player because of it but they probably dont care i am just 1 guy.

    I feel your pain man.. With all these new class balances/changes people are gonna want to test/change builds between magicka and stam.. ZOS needs to accommodate this for us or more people will leave this game.. :confused:

    Yeah i played Magicka DK on PC launch and just loved all the DK abilities but wanted to try the stamina side of it and the abilities are just boring to me. WB is about the most boring ability i have ever used no matter how effective it can be in PVP. Its not about having the best class or most OP class, its about me logging on and having fun playing a class i have fun with. And i came back on PS4 and no longer have my PC so i cant play my old magicka DK anymore. And i cant do a magicka DK being a Redguard since he is all stamina, it will just be hard to do.

    agreed
  • MrDerrikk
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    I disagree, racial passives don't make a life-death difference normally. I have a Breton Stam Sorc because I wanted to switch things up, and an Argonian NB Healer. They're both running fine.

    Only min-max people are the ones that really care about racials to this degree, and of course those that blindly follow the builds.
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  • EnemyOfDaState
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    Yeah my Redguard could use some buffs to his passives.
  • KingYogi415
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    You stole my icon.
    You must be a filthy khajiit!
  • xXSKILLZBRUHXx
    You stole my icon.
    You must be a filthy khajiit!

    lollll nahhhhhh
  • wookikiller95
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    Race changes are already happend
    Argonian now have more Health, so they are OP now
    Pls #zose nerf it
  • xXSKILLZBRUHXx
    Race changes are already happend
    Argonian now have more Health, so they are OP now
    Pls #zose nerf it

    :trollface::trollface::trollface:
  • Wreuntzylla
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    Argonians are FIXED on the PTS!!!! 3% more health baby!!!!
  • Ampnode
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    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    I disagree, racial passives don't make a life-death difference normally. I have a Breton Stam Sorc because I wanted to switch things up, and an Argonian NB Healer. They're both running fine.

    Only min-max people are the ones that really care about racials to this degree, and of course those that blindly follow the builds.

    Some pretty big chunks of your resources come from racial passives. Take my stam build, for example. Nord DK vs Bosmer DK stamina recovery differences - Nord: 2.4K, Bosmer - 3.1K. I dunno... 700+ recovery is quite the difference. Even a Redguard's DK recovery is 2.8K, which 400 is still a noticeable difference. Not only that, but a potential 4K+ max stam if you choose Redguard is also a huge difference, which equates to around 400+ weapon damage and more use of skills.
    PC NA - CP640+

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    Amp - Magicka Nightblade
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    Amp - Magicka Templar
    Amp - Stamina Dragonknight
    Amp - Stamina Templar
    Amp - Magicka Dragonknight
    Amp - Stamina Sorcerer
    Amp - Stamina Nightblade
  • leepalmer95
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    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    I disagree, racial passives don't make a life-death difference normally. I have a Breton Stam Sorc because I wanted to switch things up, and an Argonian NB Healer. They're both running fine.

    Only min-max people are the ones that really care about racials to this degree, and of course those that blindly follow the builds.

    They make quite the difference.

    For a magicka dk - redguard or dark elf.

    RedGuard - 10% max stam
    9% stam recovery
    Chance to get stamina back on melee hit.

    Dark elf - 9% max magicka
    6% max stamina
    flame resist
    7% more flame dmg

    So not only does dark elf get the 9% more magicka to add to it's dmg they also get 7% more flame dmg on top of that by losing 3% max stamina and stam recovery which is useless.

    Yeah i'd say it makes quite a difference.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • xXSKILLZBRUHXx
    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    I disagree, racial passives don't make a life-death difference normally. I have a Breton Stam Sorc because I wanted to switch things up, and an Argonian NB Healer. They're both running fine.

    Only min-max people are the ones that really care about racials to this degree, and of course those that blindly follow the builds.

    They make quite the difference.

    For a magicka dk - redguard or dark elf.

    RedGuard - 10% max stam
    9% stam recovery
    Chance to get stamina back on melee hit.

    Dark elf - 9% max magicka
    6% max stamina
    flame resist
    7% more flame dmg

    So not only does dark elf get the 9% more magicka to add to it's dmg they also get 7% more flame dmg on top of that by losing 3% max stamina and stam recovery which is useless.

    Yeah i'd say it makes quite a difference.

    definitely truee
  • Artjuh90
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    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    I disagree, racial passives don't make a life-death difference normally. I have a Breton Stam Sorc because I wanted to switch things up, and an Argonian NB Healer. They're both running fine.

    Only min-max people are the ones that really care about racials to this degree, and of course those that blindly follow the builds.
    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    I disagree, racial passives don't make a life-death difference normally. I have a Breton Stam Sorc because I wanted to switch things up, and an Argonian NB Healer. They're both running fine.

    Only min-max people are the ones that really care about racials to this degree, and of course those that blindly follow the builds.

    ^this is so true. i don't feel sorry for people who can't switch builds because they have to be min/max and have to have a rae change to be FOTM
  • MrDerrikk
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    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    I disagree, racial passives don't make a life-death difference normally. I have a Breton Stam Sorc because I wanted to switch things up, and an Argonian NB Healer. They're both running fine.

    Only min-max people are the ones that really care about racials to this degree, and of course those that blindly follow the builds.

    They make quite the difference.

    For a magicka dk - redguard or dark elf.

    RedGuard - 10% max stam
    9% stam recovery
    Chance to get stamina back on melee hit.

    Dark elf - 9% max magicka
    6% max stamina
    flame resist
    7% more flame dmg

    So not only does dark elf get the 9% more magicka to add to it's dmg they also get 7% more flame dmg on top of that by losing 3% max stamina and stam recovery which is useless.

    Yeah i'd say it makes quite a difference.

    I did say normally :P IMO the main passives that matter are the damage ones and the max resource; the regen ones aren't really enough to effect it noticeably for me other than the Bosmer one.
    I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!

    DC - PC - EU - Australian
    VR11 Mrderrikk: Breton Stam Sorc (Vamp) | VR16 Derrikkinblack: Dunmer Mage DK | VR3 Cuts-Until-It-Dies: Argonian Magicka NB

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