Zenimax, Can we please get numbers ? [+Console Players]

Hyphastion

So, an MMO that has no numbers....

I dont know if this has been debated before, and also i want to make very clear that i LOVE ESO and enjoy it very much. But does anybody else not get annoyed at not having your damage shown, or how many EXP you current have so you can calculate how much more you need ? I dont like having to guess on my bar the progress. Here is a list of ideas for NUMBERS (after all, MMO's need numbers):

- HP points.
- Stamina points
- Mana points
- EXP points
- Damage delt
- Damage taken
- Regen

And other things that help players as they play. A MMO with no numbers is, at the least, confusing. People who play PC version have some kind of add on that shows numbers. Can PS4 and XBOX get this someday down the road ?

Thanks !

Asherons_Call

One of my issues since day one. Amen. At least we are getting damage numbers soon but I'd still like to have the rest you mentioned as well

clayandaudrey_ESO

I would assume scrolling combat text would be coming to console as well with this update. I could be mistaken though.

Uriel_Nocturne

Agreed, OP.

It would help me tweak my builds with various Skills and equipment if I could actually see those numbers.

This would be very useful for console players, Zeni.

ADarklore

clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »

I would assume scrolling combat text would be coming to console as well with this update. I could be mistaken though.

Here is Gina's reply to that question.

bbrown0770

numbers would be a plus when tweaking builds we do need them

Hyphastion

Very true what you said about the build Uriel_Nocturne....

Sometimes i would like to test out new skills or gear but i cant say if the diference is there or not.

Critical Damage in different color than normal

fractalknight

I would like to give a friend in game 5 iron ores instead of all of the iron ore in my inventory.

Elsonso

Critical damage gets not only a different color, but an "!" behind it, from what it looks like.

Uriel_Nocturne

Hyphastion wrote: »

Very true what you said about the build Uriel_Nocturne....

Sometimes i would like to test out new skills or gear but i cant say if the diference is there or not.

Critical Damage in different color than normal

Agreed.

When tweaking a build by adding a new/different piece of equipment, it's really difficult to tell if the change was for the better or worse since I can't see numbers to see if those same numbers went up or down. This makes tweaking/perfecting a build extremely hard on the consoles.


@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert This doesn't seem so difficult to add into the console version, could we get a consideration for this for a future update?

bedlom

I am here because its elder scrolls so I am very much happy without and would like to keep it that way.

Hyphastion

bedlom wrote: »

I am here because its elder scrolls so I am very much happy without and would like to keep it that way.

I understand, and hopefully there will be a way in "Settings" to turn if of for those who rather not have numbers. Like subtitles in some games...

Shunravi

Im also here because its elder scrolls, and im so glad they are adding in damage numbers.

D0ntevenL1ft

ALLLLL i want is hp, magicka, and stamina numbers

Hyphastion

Plus Damage and EXP progress on both LV and CP !!

Lysette

As long as I can switch them off, you can have all the numbers you want. I do not want to have scrolling numbers on my screen, I want to experience the world, not a bunch of numbers scrolling over my screen.

NewBlacksmurf

Assuming the SCT is part of what you'd accept the character sheet seen in inventory offers the other.

I get that you want an on screen replication as well but to be honest, the numbers don't match up.

PTS right now in the console UI seeing SCT is a eye opening experience.
I think until numbers match up, having number on the bars will get more confusing because then you're trying to figure out why X number of dmg occurs when CPs, stats, skills and whatever equation that applies to each presents numbers.


In short....logical request but ZOS has some work before this could present a positive experience.
We all have had the health bar not match up with dmg taken or healing rcvd. This is what I'm referring to which is prob a bug...but because it's never been fixed, it comes off as being as designed.

Eleusian

We are finally getting some things that should have been there June 9th 2015. Keep giving us love we will keep spending $.

Slappah

SCT is coming to consoles as well with the TG update.

Have no fear fellow console players

NewBlacksmurf

Just understand...it's SCT

It's not a combat log

Hyphastion

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Just understand...it's SCT

It's not a combat log

Did not understand what SCT is.... Sorry for the noob question, but what is it ? The PC mod they use ?

Slappah

Hyphastion wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Just understand...it's SCT

It's not a combat log

Did not understand what SCT is.... Sorry for the noob question, but what is it ? The PC mod they use ?

SCT is just scrolling numbers when you take or deal damage

SCT=scrolling combat text

Artjuh90

Slappah wrote: »

Hyphastion wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Just understand...it's SCT

It's not a combat log

Did not understand what SCT is.... Sorry for the noob question, but what is it ? The PC mod they use ?

SCT is just scrolling numbers when you take or deal damage

SCT=scrolling combat text

or heal

Slappah

Artjuh90 wrote: »

Slappah wrote: »

Hyphastion wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Just understand...it's SCT

It's not a combat log

Did not understand what SCT is.... Sorry for the noob question, but what is it ? The PC mod they use ?

SCT is just scrolling numbers when you take or deal damageu
SCT=scrolling combat text

or heal

Knew I was missing something

I think they mentioned it was going to show debuffs and buffs as well although I'm not 100% about that

Peel_Ya_Cap_517

Thank you for bringing this up! No one has EVER mentioned this before on here!

Artjuh90

Slappah wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

Slappah wrote: »

Hyphastion wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Just understand...it's SCT

It's not a combat log

Did not understand what SCT is.... Sorry for the noob question, but what is it ? The PC mod they use ?

SCT is just scrolling numbers when you take or deal damageu
SCT=scrolling combat text

or heal

Knew I was missing something

I think they mentioned it was going to show debuffs and buffs as well although I'm not 100% about that

as far i remembered they are not implemented this at first with the SCT. have to look it up though. although i'm quite sure they will add it in the future because it will be asked for alot. for me i don't really want/need the numbers but the buff/debuff timers are quite usefull. now i have to guess what the timers are resulting in loss of DPS

Slappah

Yeah I just looked at the patch notes, it says crowd control not debuffs, guess I was remembering wrong

NewBlacksmurf

Artjuh90 wrote: »

Slappah wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

Slappah wrote: »

Hyphastion wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Just understand...it's SCT

It's not a combat log

Did not understand what SCT is.... Sorry for the noob question, but what is it ? The PC mod they use ?

SCT is just scrolling numbers when you take or deal damageu
SCT=scrolling combat text

or heal

Knew I was missing something

I think they mentioned it was going to show debuffs and buffs as well although I'm not 100% about that

as far i remembered they are not implemented this at first with the SCT. have to look it up though. although i'm quite sure they will add it in the future because it will be asked for alot. for me i don't really want/need the numbers but the buff/debuff timers are quite usefull. now i have to guess what the timers are resulting in loss of DPS

On PTS a number value appears with certain colors for dmg done, dang taken and healing done or received.
You can choose what shows on you and others or NPCs but it's based on what you're doing and what's being done to you.


Debuffs and stuff do not show unless you're taking dmg. So the visual indicators still exist but if you have a rebuff but not taking dmg, there is no value.

In the ptS forum I've suggested they could offer settings that display diff font size, colors and maybe an icon of a spell so we know debuffs and what skill or spell is producing the dmg or heal values.

We will see if any changes occur.

Artjuh90

@NewBlacksmurf thnx for the info

Hyphastion

Does anyone have an idea if in this next DLC this could happen ?

Thornen

Here's a number just for you