Pvp needs changes now

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

1) npcs need to be increase in power and health so it takes longer to take them down, i personal can take on a resource on my own which it not real, also when attacking a keep me and 5 others can take the keep this needs to have duffficulty increased.

2) I luv pvp in eso but latley it has been come more of a zerg feast, i'am not on about one full raid attacking another full raid but rahter 3 or 4 full raids attack a single raid, i know what your going to say they are just better organised but i dont see the fun in being part of a 72 man zerg what fun is there in that.


Changes are need to balance out pvp so when takening a keep etc or battling other players it makes more sense increase the diffculty lvl of keeps etc and make it that if you have several zergs in the same area they get no ap which will stop them zerging

AlnilamE

You want the difficulty to be increased so that it takes more people to take an undefended keep, but you want people to run smaller groups?

Did I understand that right?

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

groups of 24 is fine but when 72 in zerg gets silly

Waffennacht

For a second there I thought this thread would be rehashing an old topic.

Phew, that was close...

Alucardo

Out of all things PVP needs and you suggest these? I'm not even sure what you're suggesting in the second point, but if it's to remove AOE caps, then sure.

MikeB

The issues, at least on Xbox NA Haderus, is that DC and EP are teaming to keep AD from getting Emp and are trading Emp back and forth themselves. Dozens of AD peeps have heard people talking in area chat when they thought no one was around and heard so, me being one. Others have dual faction tooons that are in DC, EP and AD guilds where the DC & EP guilds have alliances. This could be happening on other platforms as well, I can't say because I don't play on other platforms. It's really absurd and takes away the whole point of Cyrodiil.

MrDerrikk

What if they added player collision detection in Cyrodiil? Yes, it would increase the packets sent to and from the server, but it would also decrease them due to AoE being able to now hit a hard maximum of the players that can fit in the area. I'm not 100% familiar with how much of a calculation increase it would take for collision detection though, so this may be much worse.

FriedEggSandwich

MrDerrikk wrote: »

What if they added player collision detection in Cyrodiil? Yes, it would increase the packets sent to and from the server, but it would also decrease them due to AoE being able to now hit a hard maximum of the players that can fit in the area. I'm not 100% familiar with how much of a calculation increase it would take for collision detection though, so this may be much worse.

Player collision would give players a mechanism to harass other players of the same faction. It would also introduce new imbalances due to sorcs being able to streak through players others would collide with.

MrDerrikk

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

What if they added player collision detection in Cyrodiil? Yes, it would increase the packets sent to and from the server, but it would also decrease them due to AoE being able to now hit a hard maximum of the players that can fit in the area. I'm not 100% familiar with how much of a calculation increase it would take for collision detection though, so this may be much worse.

Player collision would give players a mechanism to harass other players of the same faction. It would also introduce new imbalances due to sorcs being able to streak through players others would collide with.

Don't forget DK Take Flight and NB Teleport Strike if there's another player behind them. Templars would be the worst off, and Sorcs would still be best though. Perhaps a cool new thing to do would make Vamp's using Mist Form able to pass through people?

I have given the faction harassment point as a reason against implementing this previously, but I'm sure there are things they could include to lower the frequency of this/increase negative consequences.

DurzoBlint13

MikeB wrote: »

The issues, at least on Xbox NA Haderus, is that DC and EP are teaming to keep AD from getting Emp and are trading Emp back and forth themselves. Dozens of AD peeps have heard people talking in area chat when they thought no one was around and heard so, me being one. Others have dual faction tooons that are in DC, EP and AD guilds where the DC & EP guilds have alliances. This could be happening on other platforms as well, I can't say because I don't play on other platforms. It's really absurd and takes away the whole point of Cyrodiil.

It is AD and EP that team up together all of the time on ps4. Between that and AD camping on the sewer entrances with groups of 30-40, its getting really bad for DC. We have the smallest population by far already and now people are leaving and making toons in AD because they just have more people and more buff servers.

Stranglehands

The three things that have turned pvp into a zergfest are aoe caps, gap closer root and the increased health meaning a huge nerf to healing. I don't think they particularly need to buff the guards

Milvan

You know what I would love to see implemented but I don't think our bad servers would ever handle? Player impact! Let's us make shield walls ZOS!

Weberda

Stranglehands wrote: »

The three things that have turned pvp into a zergfest are aoe caps, gap closer root and the increased health meaning a huge nerf to healing. I don't think they particularly need to buff the guards

Yes they do. The resources are routinely being soloed even by noobs like me. With the upcoming "improvements" (we hope) to each class and the increase in siege damage it should be even easier to steamroll the npc's. It shouldn't be that way.