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uso245 · February 2016

Hoping the 64 bit client fixes a major portion of this because the lag now compared to what I have experienced is astronomical compared to prior of the introduction of DLC.

Troneon · February 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOCD_Jzre3c

MrDerrikk · February 2016

It'll most likely help FPS, but not Ping.

ironhorse1010ub17_ESO · February 2016

Yeah fps it will help but if you are getting a bad ping that is on your end. Clear up that line

TheMachineKiller · February 2016

uso245 wrote: »

Hoping the 64 bit client fixes a major portion of this because the lag now compared to what I have experienced is astronomical compared to prior of the introduction of DLC.

It wont. Lag has been here since a couple of months after launch in 2014. It's all the added code, loops/elseif's with everyone's advanced character progression. The movement of the game operating client side mostly to operating mostly server side also (heard that from pvp guildies).

uso245 · February 2016

TheMachineKiller wrote: »

uso245 wrote: »

Hoping the 64 bit client fixes a major portion of this because the lag now compared to what I have experienced is astronomical compared to prior of the introduction of DLC.

It wont. Lag has been here since a couple of months after launch in 2014. It's all the added code, loops/elseif's with everyone's advanced character progression. The movement of the game operating client side mostly to operating mostly server side also (heard that from pvp guildies).

It really spells the doom at that point if simply the people progressing at that point just adds to the server instabilitiy which is incredibly sad simply because these issues never existed before until they decided they were going to implement dlc/b2p mechanism into the works. #WrenchInTheWorks

Lysette · February 2016

uso245 wrote: »

TheMachineKiller wrote: »

uso245 wrote: »

Hoping the 64 bit client fixes a major portion of this because the lag now compared to what I have experienced is astronomical compared to prior of the introduction of DLC.

It wont. Lag has been here since a couple of months after launch in 2014. It's all the added code, loops/elseif's with everyone's advanced character progression. The movement of the game operating client side mostly to operating mostly server side also (heard that from pvp guildies).

It really spells the doom at that point if simply the people progressing at that point just adds to the server instabilitiy which is incredibly sad simply because these issues never existed before until they decided they were going to implement dlc/b2p mechanism into the works. #WrenchInTheWorks

You guys just do not understand the issue - YOU are the problem with your zergs - stop doing that and it will get better.

DRXHarbinger · February 2016

^ LOL some humans amuse me, when promised and I quote. "Join an Army of Thousands in epic player battles" you think Zergs were going to be something different, this isn't Pokemon where we all take turns in hurting each other, Zerging is exactly what we were all sold ( sorry if you cannot read )

K4RMA · February 2016

it wont help

uso245 · February 2016

Lysette wrote: »

uso245 wrote: »

TheMachineKiller wrote: »

uso245 wrote: »

Hoping the 64 bit client fixes a major portion of this because the lag now compared to what I have experienced is astronomical compared to prior of the introduction of DLC.

It wont. Lag has been here since a couple of months after launch in 2014. It's all the added code, loops/elseif's with everyone's advanced character progression. The movement of the game operating client side mostly to operating mostly server side also (heard that from pvp guildies).

It really spells the doom at that point if simply the people progressing at that point just adds to the server instabilitiy which is incredibly sad simply because these issues never existed before until they decided they were going to implement dlc/b2p mechanism into the works. #WrenchInTheWorks

You guys just do not understand the issue - YOU are the problem with your zergs - stop doing that and it will get better.

If you truly knew me you'd understand, never zerged ever, always ganked and did small group pvp.

NinjaApacHe · February 2016

ironhorse1010ub17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah fps it will help but if you are getting a bad ping that is on your end. Clear up that line

AHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHA

uso245 · February 2016

The ping overall has always been a stable 99-125 (primarily pre-IC but hasn't been a huge issue until recently) but in PvP lately even sitting in Highrock (either one) and ping slingshots 488-999+ in a matter of seconds even if nothing is going on.

Robotmafia · February 2016

Lysette wrote: »

uso245 wrote: »

TheMachineKiller wrote: »

uso245 wrote: »

Hoping the 64 bit client fixes a major portion of this because the lag now compared to what I have experienced is astronomical compared to prior of the introduction of DLC.

It wont. Lag has been here since a couple of months after launch in 2014. It's all the added code, loops/elseif's with everyone's advanced character progression. The movement of the game operating client side mostly to operating mostly server side also (heard that from pvp guildies).

It really spells the doom at that point if simply the people progressing at that point just adds to the server instabilitiy which is incredibly sad simply because these issues never existed before until they decided they were going to implement dlc/b2p mechanism into the works. #WrenchInTheWorks

You guys just do not understand the issue - YOU are the problem with your zergs - stop doing that and it will get better.

i totally agree that zerging and aoe effects make the lag issue much much worse... but i remember in the first year having large battles without lag... the first time really became issue was with meteors after the skoria set came out... and once a large amount of people reached a high enough pvp rank for magika detonation it got terabaaad...

log234 · February 2016

As they've said on multiple occations, it's the AoE effects that causes the incredible high ping rates. If everyone stopped AoEing in Cyrodiil (which I know of course will never happen), then the ping would be a lot better.

uso245 · February 2016

log234 wrote: »

As they've said on multiple occations, it's the AoE effects that causes the incredible high ping rates. If everyone stopped AoEing in Cyrodiil (which I know of course will never happen), then the ping would be a lot better.

*cough* so all the zergs have to stop AoE?, how do we take AoEs out of the game all together then?

log234 · February 2016

uso245 wrote: »

log234 wrote: »

As they've said on multiple occations, it's the AoE effects that causes the incredible high ping rates. If everyone stopped AoEing in Cyrodiil (which I know of course will never happen), then the ping would be a lot better.

*cough* so all the zergs have to stop AoE?, how do we take AoEs out of the game all together then?

As I said, it's not a fix, since AoEs is a game mechanic that enables certain playstyles. I just noted it's also the cause of the lag.

PsycoSkull · February 2016

we just need to stop AoEing and all just start attacking each other with hugs then the lag should quit

uso245 · February 2016

I'm a ganker and sometimes small group PvPer but when it came to the zerg it was never fun because you never completed something yourself or with limited numbers. #UnderDogSinceDay1

PriorityBalle · February 2016

#RemoveTheAoECap

Erondil · February 2016

You have good hopes lawl

uso245 · February 2016

PsycoSkull wrote: »

we just need to stop AoEing and all just start attacking each other with hugs then the lag should quit

Erondil wrote: »

You have good hopes lawl

Optimist but also a realist.

Elsonso · February 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

^ LOL some humans amuse me, when promised and I quote. "Join an Army of Thousands in epic player battles" you think Zergs were going to be something different, this isn't Pokemon where we all take turns in hurting each other, Zerging is exactly what we were all sold ( sorry if you cannot read )

I think he is right, to the extent that it is the "zerg" ... but it is not the "Army of Thousands" that is the problem. I think the ultimate problem is the massive use of AoE and combat effects by the Army of Thousands that requires a check against the entire Army on the server. Inefficiencies in how this is handled and communicated can snowball very quickly in situations like this, and even efficient code can get bogged down under enough demand.

Some people think the AoE cap is the issue, but I would not discount the possibility that the AoE cap is reducing lag. It depends on how they implemented the AoE cap and where the actual bottlenecks are.

StihlReign · February 2016

ESO needs a new engine. The current one isn't designed for mass scale PvP. Neither are the PvP rules.

PvP in ESO is a minigame of the game. It's a shame.

StihlReign · February 2016

uso245 wrote: »

Hoping the 64 bit client fixes a major portion of this because the lag now compared to what I have experienced is astronomical compared to prior of the introduction of DLC.

Me too. I highly doubt it unless the primary issue facing ESO is memory handling by the client.

Malmai · February 2016

StihlReign wrote: »

ESO needs a new engine. The current one isn't designed for mass scale PvP. Neither are the PvP rules.

PvP in ESO is a minigame of the game. It's a shame.

Exactly its really poorly coded and just pasted over.

Gilvoth · February 2016

no,
every time i see MASS HIGH 999+ in red and the 1 to 3 FPS i look up and see a zerg group of about 50 people running nearby me, none of them are fighting, none of them are doing Anything!
all thier doing is running by me and im laggiing mass bad.
i no longer think its from the AOE's i think is just large groups in general.

QUEZ420 · February 2016

Lmfao!! That video is absolutely priceless. Thx for filling my day wit smiles I'm thru lol.

Malmai · February 2016

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

no,
every time i see MASS HIGH 999+ in red and the 1 to 3 FPS i look up and see a zerg group of about 50 people running nearby me, none of them are fighting, none of them are doing Anything!
all thier doing is running by me and im laggiing mass bad.
i no longer think its from the AOE's i think is just large groups in general.

Yep, tell that to ZOS. NO ETA.

uso245 · February 2016

The thing is if you've been around as long as me you would see we used to have large battles in PvP with no large latency issue (unless it was all three factions zerging a keep but the lag was limited to that keep). I personally when it comes to ganking/small group we'll also follow enemy zergs and pick off chunks of their groups haha. Now just trying to enjoy that is its own battle.

Kwivur · February 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

^ LOL some humans amuse me, when promised and I quote. "Join an Army of Thousands in epic player battles" you think Zergs were going to be something different, this isn't Pokemon where we all take turns in hurting each other, Zerging is exactly what we were all sold ( sorry if you cannot read )

Are you not human?