If you want to PvP. . .

Wing

Go to Cyrodil.

trying to insert PvP into PvE elements of the game like thieving or possible dark brotherhood ideas just does not work, did imperial city teach you nothing?

this is what happens: PvE
-gets upset because they can not just do what they are trying to do without getting killed, and continues to get upset, angry, and view the PvP players as d**ks for griefing them while they try to do their thing.

this is what happens: PvP
-gets angry at the PvE players for cluttering their PvP instances when they have no interest in PvP and irritated when they get upset for being killed when they are in a PvP environment.

and then you have a huge amount of troll potential in these systems were one skilled player sets out specifically to troll and frustrate other player (this is actually a large group I am sorry to say) by say committing a crime so all the "noob cops" come to try and catch you and slaughtering them over and over for the "lulz" or sitting as a cop in a well known thieving location (there are a few) to slaughter any people trying to get some thieving done. there not looking for a real fight or to test their skills, their just looking to amuse themselves by trolling others.

there are many other points but the result is this, they don't mix, it only leads to irritation and bad blood all around and splits the player base further. PvE and PvP need to be separated and not interact and be very clear when you are in one compared to the other.

that's why cyrodil works (in theory, in practice its a buggy zerg ball mess) you cannot accidently enter it, when you go in its specifically to PvP. you expect it, prepare for it, and set out with the intent of it.

and that's how it should and shall remain, if you cannot cut it fighting other PvP players who are ready for you then that's your problem, no need to go ruin some PvE players day cause you suck. XD

leepalmer95

What is this rant for specifically?

KingYogi415

learn to play bud.

A majority of players play every thing.

pvp below vet 16 sucks and how do you think people get to max level?

The sewers is awesome, nothing better than fighting molag ball and your scum enemies at the same time.

FOR THE QUEEN!

Lysette

Where is this a rant?- He basically pointed out what is the difference between PvE and PvP oriented players and why both play style do not mix very well. And he is spot on.

Wing

KingYogi415 wrote: »

learn to play bud.

A majority of players play every thing.

pvp below vet 16 sucks and how do you think people get to max level?

The sewers is awesome, nothing better than fighting molag ball and your scum enemies at the same time.

FOR THE QUEEN!

1: umm bwah? I enjoy pvp, where did I say I didn't?

2: good, just don't mix them.

3: grinding

4: the sewers would be better if it was full time pvp and not cluttered with pve players taking up our faction space.

5: agreed!

NoMaassPliz

Just to piggy-back on op's post, to those of you who choose to gank in the quest towns... do you do this because you can't beat someone on regular pvp?

I'm not a PVE'er complaining about this, as I just assume that whenever I go to Bruma or Cropsford six NBs will immediately pop out of stealth and try to spambush me, I'm just genuinely curious. It can't be a good way to farm AP.

pronkg

Wing wrote: »

Go to Cyrodil.

trying to insert PvP into PvE elements of the game like thieving or possible dark brotherhood ideas just does not work, did imperial city teach you nothing?

this is what happens: PvE
-gets upset because they can not just do what they are trying to do without getting killed, and continues to get upset, angry, and view the PvP players as d**ks for griefing them while they try to do their thing.

this is what happens: PvP
-gets angry at the PvE players for cluttering their PvP instances when they have no interest in PvP and irritated when they get upset for being killed when they are in a PvP environment.

and then you have a huge amount of troll potential in these systems were one skilled player sets out specifically to troll and frustrate other player (this is actually a large group I am sorry to say) by say committing a crime so all the "noob cops" come to try and catch you and slaughtering them over and over for the "lulz" or sitting as a cop in a well known thieving location (there are a few) to slaughter any people trying to get some thieving done. there not looking for a real fight or to test their skills, their just looking to amuse themselves by trolling others.

there are many other points but the result is this, they don't mix, it only leads to irritation and bad blood all around and splits the player base further. PvE and PvP need to be separated and not interact and be very clear when you are in one compared to the other.

that's why cyrodil works (in theory, in practice its a buggy zerg ball mess) you cannot accidently enter it, when you go in its specifically to PvP. you expect it, prepare for it, and set out with the intent of it.

and that's how it should and shall remain, if you cannot cut it fighting other PvP players who are ready for you then that's your problem, no need to go ruin some PvE players day cause you suck. XD

And how exactly am I supposed to play in cyrodiil?

Wing

pronkg wrote: »

And how exactly am I supposed to play in cyrodiil?

your question is to vague could you be more precise? what seems to be your problem?

LegacyDM

You know what would solve this problem? Create a cyrodil server that has gated access so that when one faction earns the right for gated IC other factions can't enter. That way, pvers can experience IC without worrying about getting ganked, griefed, and teabagged. O wait, because of ZOS stupid mechanics, teabaggers can keep their alts in IC forever, even after they die and grief the hell out of pve players. GG

cyx54tc

you know....the existence of tvs multiplier is to compensate pver rite..

D0ntevenL1ft

leepalmer95 wrote: »

What is this rant for specifically?

HAHA took the comment right out of my mouth.

Reznique

Fix the lag in Cyrodil and then maaaybe PVPers will leave the sewers ^_^

But free telvars and AP is too tempting

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO

KingYogi415 wrote: »

learn to play bud.

A majority of players play every thing.

pvp below vet 16 sucks and how do you think people get to max level?

The sewers is awesome, nothing better than fighting molag ball and your scum enemies at the same time.

FOR THE QUEEN!

The queen I beheaded in the AD areas? She was annoying :P