Buff Templars

DRXHarbinger

Seriously. I don't even have one but after looking for someone to gank and rob of thier stones I've just come across some dude grinding away...vet1 had all the right gear on etc but my ward alone can out sustain his dps lol. I was just kiting him about and eventually after the fun was had 2 overloads and an endless fury he was dust (literally).

I actually see now what's beef with Templars you actually cannot hurt a thing I have sub 900 mag regen and I still out spammed any attack that got chucked at me.
What a joke. No wonder healers are so rare these days. Next time I promise to leave all healers be that don't engage me.
But seriously ZOS please listen to what is potentially quarter of the player base and sort them out. If I could record I would but I was actually in stitches at the pathetic attempt this dude just had at me. For the love of PVE and viability of trials and future content don't scare or *** off all the hard grinded Templars. Not a troll post at all. Joke how this guy couldn't even harm me.

DRXHarbinger

He was a V16 not V1.

Artjuh90

+1 because this is no nerf Nb thread

Lightninvash

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

He was a V16 not V1.

I know this feeling however I have been able to hold my own on 1v1 situations but I also have low spell dmg atm because my gear isn't setup yet and my cps are so random that its gimping me. but the damage we do is so low when I grind and others come its better to just throw out an aoe then heal them for the xp lol

Iove

I'm a templar healer and usually people are crying to nerf templar op healing in pvp... Not realizing that the nerf hits us all in PvE, healers are getting harder to play and people quit.
I constantly see people in zone chat talking about not being able to find a single healer. I already run dungeons more than I need to, so sometimes I've gotta quest/get my points and they are left to struggle looking for healers. It's a sad situation.

Zheg

If he was a stamplar, he should have been putting heavy CC on your sorc and a single WB should take care of your ward, so it sounds like he was a magicka/healer templar. If he wasn't running annulment, that fight was over before it began. The fight should have ended in a stalement at that point. I've seen a few magicka templars able to take down a magicka sorc, but it's hard to do, particularly if the sorc also has annulment on their bar. You pretty much need to catch them making a mistake and get a good burst off with dark flare/dawnbreaker.

Part of the reason why it's more difficult to kill on a templar is because of all the channel/casted damage abilities we have. It's easier to walk through/avoid jabs/sweep than it is WB, dark flare is highly counterable and obvious, and jesus beam ain't what it used to be. Most of the templar mechanic issues are solely due to the cast times, the remaining issues stem from passive imbalance (needing to slot repentance to get less regen than NB get automatically from a passive) and craptacular ults (though I do like nova for group play).

Artjuh90

nicab16_ESO wrote: »

I'm a templar healer and usually people are crying to nerf templar op healing in pvp... Not realizing that the nerf hits us all in PvE, healers are getting harder to play and people quit.
I constantly see people in zone chat talking about not being able to find a single healer. I already run dungeons more than I need to, so sometimes I've gotta quest/get my points and they are left to struggle looking for healers. It's a sad situation.

still harder to find tanks though...
and then i mean actual tanks not to bothered to w8 dps qued as tank

Lightninvash

Artjuh90 wrote: »

nicab16_ESO wrote: »

I'm a templar healer and usually people are crying to nerf templar op healing in pvp... Not realizing that the nerf hits us all in PvE, healers are getting harder to play and people quit.
I constantly see people in zone chat talking about not being able to find a single healer. I already run dungeons more than I need to, so sometimes I've gotta quest/get my points and they are left to struggle looking for healers. It's a sad situation.

still harder to find tanks though...
and then i mean actual tanks not to bothered to w8 dps qued as tank

tanks are a myth just like

Alorier

I do my bit to help fill them Templar bountys in PvP by taking my useless templar in there , die respawn and die etc etc , Templars are on the extinction list

DRXHarbinger

PVE doesn't need tanks now. Trials yes but dungeons no one needs a tank.

Iove

I have tanked and healed a dungeon once but it was not easy Haha. Also was before the nerfs really hit hard. I have also healed many groups without a tank and I once tanked with someone else healing me while I was in my spell power light healing build. This game used to be so fun.

Ah, but what I'm trying to say is, it is a lot harder to do a dungeon without a healer than without a tank. Also, most healers are templars still imho. And if templars keep getting nerfed and nerfed when they were never the strongest to begin with, eventually even I'll give up on my templar. Probably go back to Aion. Which means less healers, I bet I'm not the only one feeling like this. I used to love dealing damage and healing and feeling effective on my templar, which I just don't now.

Artjuh90

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

PVE doesn't need tanks now. Trials yes but dungeons no one needs a tank.

vCoA, vICP and vIGT its still good. and they where going to increase level of the trials and the new trial is comming so i disagree

KingYogi415

we have alot of useless skills and can use some better passives.

Good place to start

Tryxus

Totally

Most of the times when I fight a MagPlar, he/she just keeps defending and healing up my damage but never seems to do much damage to me. StamPlars... well they wreck me but then again, so does every Stam build except NB But they could use a few more class skills for their rotation besides Jabs and their Purge

So, I really hope you guys get buffed up reel gud I would love to see more Temps bringing their Divine Judgement onto their enemies in Cyrodiil

Wish you guys the best with the next update

AfkNinja

I think there are limits to how buff you can get in game. My templar maxed out his muscles but he doesn't look near "swoll" enough. I don't think ZOS want's us to be "buff".

nimander99

I'm a Templar dual heal/tank and it's rough out there for a playa... but "Play the way you want" means get facerolled in pvp by everyone apparently... and they "fixed" the Jeezusbeam That was the only time I ever held my own in pvp, that small window. It was fun having a chance. Now its not so much fun.

AOECAPS

dont worry guys we will get a buff on the pts server then Wrobel will wake up from his drunken stupor and drop the hammer of Thor on Templars again.

Tryxus

AOECAPS wrote: »

dont worry guys we will get a buff on the pts server then Wrobel will wake up from his drunken stupor and drop the hammer of Thor on Templars again.

Hammer of Stendarr you mean

BRogueNZ

After healing since launch and trying to match stamina dps against the amount of resistance to magicka available, I've thrown in the healers towel too.

Sure some can pull of some good play but it nevers seems to be against any known names and normally in very limited situations/locations.

I'm more than happy with my switch to stamina now, regular crits of 12-15k just made me wonder why I didn't join the bandwagon sooner.

x_Nathan_F

Yeah being a templar healer is a pain with the major 50% reduction the problem I have is as I'm a healer I'm more of a target and my DPS is low I PvP a lot and sometimes it's just me and 2 other healers, one being a sorc.

Alabyn

nicab16_ESO wrote: »

I'm a templar healer and usually people are crying to nerf templar op healing in pvp... Not realizing that the nerf hits us all in PvE, healers are getting harder to play and people quit.
I constantly see people in zone chat talking about not being able to find a single healer. I already run dungeons more than I need to, so sometimes I've gotta quest/get my points and they are left to struggle looking for healers. It's a sad situation.

I play only one character, a temp healer. But honestly I don't dungeon much as shoulder/helm-hunting isn't much use for me. I like to dedicated heal in Cyrodiil, but in small groups, you're toast. It's still fun, I don't mind going up in flames while I'm wavin' those healing hands in the air like a goof.

SPC sounds cool, but from what I've read about RNG, ack. I'm not sure I'd enjoy hours (days?) of the same dungeon.

Iove

I'm considering throwing in the towel on my temp healer and roll a sorc magicka dd. I want to play a powerful mage class, I loved templar before because I could just about stand my own as well as help my allies. Now I'm just weak

Edit: this is coming from a player who has only played templar since beta, I tried a sorc first but then I made a templar and never ever went back.

Thornen

AOECAPS wrote: »

dont worry guys we will get a buff on the pts server then Wrobel will wake up from his drunken stupor and drop the hammer of Thor on Templars again.

By drop the hammer of Thor you mean nerf templars some more.

Mojmir

Ragnarock1982

I love using my sword and shield redguard templar/healer/tank. Only low level, but as soon as I get high enough I cant wait for dungeons etc... message me if you need a tank. Xbox one eu server. Ragnarock1982

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Zheg wrote: »

If he was a stamplar, he should have been putting heavy CC on your sorc and a single WB should take care of your ward, so it sounds like he was a magicka/healer templar. If he wasn't running annulment, that fight was over before it began. The fight should have ended in a stalement at that point. I've seen a few magicka templars able to take down a magicka sorc, but it's hard to do, particularly if the sorc also has annulment on their bar. You pretty much need to catch them making a mistake and get a good burst off with dark flare/dawnbreaker.

Part of the reason why it's more difficult to kill on a templar is because of all the channel/casted damage abilities we have. It's easier to walk through/avoid jabs/sweep than it is WB, dark flare is highly counterable and obvious, and jesus beam ain't what it used to be. Most of the templar mechanic issues are solely due to the cast times, the remaining issues stem from passive imbalance (needing to slot repentance to get less regen than NB get automatically from a passive) and craptacular ults (though I do like nova for group play).

Weird how my Magicka Templar kills Sorcs with no problems I use the same tactics as when fighting Stamina Nightblades Shield stack and heal and let them burn energy it works nearly all the time.

Any Templar that dies to a sorcerer sucks sorry to say but Sorcerers LOVE curse and magicka detonation both can be purged off at a crazy cheap cost. Tie that One Hand and Shield reflect in and frags are your friend. Magic Templars dying to Magic builds is a damn shame.

Most Sorcerers are all max magic and damage with *** poor recovery so it's a ohh look you're out of magic to bad for you now die.

Iove

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

If he was a stamplar, he should have been putting heavy CC on your sorc and a single WB should take care of your ward, so it sounds like he was a magicka/healer templar. If he wasn't running annulment, that fight was over before it began. The fight should have ended in a stalement at that point. I've seen a few magicka templars able to take down a magicka sorc, but it's hard to do, particularly if the sorc also has annulment on their bar. You pretty much need to catch them making a mistake and get a good burst off with dark flare/dawnbreaker.

Part of the reason why it's more difficult to kill on a templar is because of all the channel/casted damage abilities we have. It's easier to walk through/avoid jabs/sweep than it is WB, dark flare is highly counterable and obvious, and jesus beam ain't what it used to be. Most of the templar mechanic issues are solely due to the cast times, the remaining issues stem from passive imbalance (needing to slot repentance to get less regen than NB get automatically from a passive) and craptacular ults (though I do like nova for group play).

Weird how my Magicka Templar kills Sorcs with no problems I use the same tactics as when fighting Stamina Nightblades Shield stack and heal and let them burn energy it works nearly all the time.

Any Templar that dies to a sorcerer sucks sorry to say but Sorcerers LOVE curse and magicka detonation both can be purged off at a crazy cheap cost. Tie that One Hand and Shield reflect in and frags are your friend. Magic Templars dying to Magic builds is a damn shame.

Most Sorcerers are all max magic and damage with *** poor recovery so it's a ohh look you're out of magic to bad for you now die.

I'm sorry but if we only stand a chance after enemy drains their resources and we somehow survive, bearing in mind most of us don't, how does that show that we are well balanced? Also bear in mind that the enemies who can't manage their resources are unskilled players. So we can only beat unskilled or undergeared people, and you think we at good?We should be able to hold our own through the fight.

Islyn

nicab16_ESO wrote: »

I'm a templar healer and usually people are crying to nerf templar op healing in pvp... Not realizing that the nerf hits us all in PvE, healers are getting harder to play and people quit.
I constantly see people in zone chat talking about not being able to find a single healer. I already run dungeons more than I need to, so sometimes I've gotta quest/get my points and they are left to struggle looking for healers. It's a sad situation.

Yeah I need pledges on my neglected NB - and can never find a healer - and when - many are just bad and I have a couple times had to switch to my templar to make sure the rest could finish and I still have always missing pledges lol.

Dredlord

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Seriously. I don't even have one but after looking for someone to gank and rob of thier stones I've just come across some dude grinding away...vet1 had all the right gear on etc but my ward alone can out sustain his dps lol. I was just kiting him about and eventually after the fun was had 2 overloads and an endless fury he was dust (literally).

I actually see now what's beef with Templars you actually cannot hurt a thing I have sub 900 mag regen and I still out spammed any attack that got chucked at me.
What a joke. No wonder healers are so rare these days. Next time I promise to leave all healers be that don't engage me.
But seriously ZOS please listen to what is potentially quarter of the player base and sort them out. If I could record I would but I was actually in stitches at the pathetic attempt this dude just had at me. For the love of PVE and viability of trials and future content don't scare or *** off all the hard grinded Templars. Not a troll post at all. Joke how this guy couldn't even harm me.

With all honesty and sincerity, please *** off, there will be no buffs and the fixes wont work. If they havent done any of this *** in 2 years what makes you think zos will magically gain some integrity all of a sudden. It's the joke class of the game. Every game has one.

DRXHarbinger

Nothing purgeable from me. Imo magika det is crap. And curse is for amateurs. Crushing shock, frags and overload is all I need. None of this time delay wasting dps malark.

bikerangelo

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Weird how my Magicka Templar kills Sorcs with no problems I use the same tactics as when fighting Stamina Nightblades Shield stack and heal and let them burn energy it works nearly all the time.

Any Templar that dies to a sorcerer sucks sorry to say but Sorcerers LOVE curse and magicka detonation both can be purged off at a crazy cheap cost. Tie that One Hand and Shield reflect in and frags are your friend. Magic Templars dying to Magic builds is a damn shame.

Most Sorcerers are all max magic and damage with *** poor recovery so it's a ohh look you're out of magic to bad for you now die.

Magic det cannot be purged. Puncturing Sweep does very poor damage against Hardened Ward. Dark flare is really the only good dps you have against sorcs for the major defile and empower, but if they're running a destro with crushing shock, have fun with that. Also, Eclipse is a better option to use on a sorc than Defensive Posture.

I'm not saying it's impossible to kill a sorc as a templar, it's just not as easy as your building it up to be.