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LiquidSchwartz
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I wish dk got buffed so they have dignity
I love my dk but he pales in comparison to every other class I've played even though he's the most fun to play. Or nerf sorcs and nightblades so we are all equal.
Edited by LiquidSchwartz on January 29, 2016 7:03AM
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  • Shunravi
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    Or revert DK nerfs. But whatever....
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  • LiquidSchwartz
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Or revert DK nerfs. But whatever....
    They needed to be nerfed ): but they got way too nerfed I never understand anything zeni does
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  • Shunravi
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Or revert DK nerfs. But whatever....
    They needed to be nerfed ): but they got way too nerfed I never understand anything zeni does

    They didnt need the nerfs (imo), you could play against them... but yea, they slam the nerf hammer too hard.
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  • Johngo0036
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    Pleas don't Nerf anything, BUFF DK's
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  • VincentBlanquin
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    we know nothing about changes. we will just see them at patch notes (maybe) and experience them on pts next week. why it looks like to me that they are hiding changes community will be against?
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  • AJ_1988
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    Well to an extent a small one but one none the less Templars skills got nerfed yet again.
  • Shunravi
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    AJ_1988 wrote: »
    Well to an extent a small one but one none the less Templars skills got nerfed yet again.

    One of the true constants.
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  • ThatNeonZebraAgain
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    I honestly don't see where the "DK needs buffs" comments come from. Not trying to be a jerk, I genuinely want to know.

    Assuming a decent player skill, in PvE they tear through vet group content and bring a lot of utility. And in PvP, they can still be nearly unkillable and hell to play against (flappy wings, talons, whip, WB, Invasion, etc), and I lose as often as I win against them.

    Are the issues with DKs specific to DKs (eg broken abilities), or are they symptoms of larger design issues (e.g. DoTs being less effective)?
    Edited by ThatNeonZebraAgain on January 29, 2016 11:58AM
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  • Draxys
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    I honestly don't see where the "DK needs buffs" comments come from. Not trying to be a jerk, I genuinely want to know.

    Assuming a decent player skill, in PvE they tear through vet group content and bring a lot of utility. And in PvP, they can still be nearly unkillable and hell to play against (flappy wings, talons, whip, WB, Invasion, etc), and I lose as often as I win against them.

    Are the issues with DKs specific to DKs (eg broken abilities), or are they symptoms of larger design issues (e.g. DoTs being less effective)?

    It's mostly magicka DK that needs buffing. Low damage, zero mobility, severely nerfed survivability mechanics while no compensating the class for them. Mag DK is the weakest thing in pvp right now, but buffing them has to be done carefully because they have massive dps in pve right now.

    Stamina DK just needs options. Stam DK is basically just playing 2H/bow or 2H/1H.
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  • Flameheart
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    I play a magicka DK as DD or healer in PvE. At least from the PvE side of view and for magicka builds I don't see any fundamental need for improvements. Maybe a class execute skill would be nice.

    I get 15 to 20k and even more dps in 4-man-groups, depends heavily on number of warhorns and available buffs. Personally I find it much more easy to achieve high dps values with my DK as with my magicka NB or with my Sorc if not using overload. My rota isn't even perfect, I have crafted legendary gear (Julianos + Torug + purple Willpower set), but I don't even have a Molag Kena shoulder piece. I have maxed CPs though. The only handycap might be that even a magicka DK should be played in melee range for best dps, but ok, that's a feature of that class.

    My DK does no less support dps as a healer in compare to my Sorc, my NB or my Templar (if played as a healer) and this just by using Structured Entropy, Crushing Shock and Eruption. ~12k dps on Daedroths in WGT with Kagrenac's Hope as a healer set and no spell damage enchants.

    No idea about stamina, but magicka in PvE is in great shape.


    ..and there we come to the real issue of such threads, undifferentiated whining without even explaining the playstyle (PvP or PvE) and build (stamina or magicka) and role (DD, healer, tank).

    Half of all threads on this forum should be closed with a "learn to ask" or "learn to cry properly" mark.

    Edited by Flameheart on January 29, 2016 12:27PM
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