Projectiles

Amorpho

Whenever I face a DK I struggle to do damage because of reflective scales. I was wondering, do lightning staff heavy attack and crushing shock count as projectiles? Cause they look more like elemental rays more than projectiles to me. Do they get reflected as well?

MrDerrikk

Staff no (same with the resto) as they count as channels, however Crushing/Force? I think it may...

lolo_01b16_ESO

Crushing shock is a prejectile, so it gets reflected.

KhajiitiLizard

I thought destro staff heavy attacks still got reflected... because they are projectiles (does not hit until fully charged), but the resto staff hits as soon as you start channeling.

Also, only the cc effects of crushing shock reflect not the actual beam... unless that changed.

Amorpho

Does anyone know for sure?

Alucardo

Lightning staff heavy attack definitely won't get reflected, which is why an atronach works wonders against perma-flappers too. Crushing shock will, but the reflect animation on that is harder to tell compared to other projectiles.

Alucardo

Oddly enough I don't think tangling webs (Undaunted skill line) gets reflected. It was going through my defensive posture every time.

Amorpho

I won't have this problem anymore once I unlock magicka det

Septimus_Magna

Alucardo wrote: »

Oddly enough I don't think tangling webs (Undaunted skill line) gets reflected. It was going through my defensive posture every time.

Defensive posture also doesnt reflect arrows while Reflective Scale does reflect them.
I think the same goes for Tangling Webs.

Crushing Shock is reflected but it does count as 3 projectiles which can be used to your advantage.
Crushing Shock + fire staff light attack = 4 projectiles so you can hit the DK with Cfrags after that.

If you use Harness the reflected Crushing Shock + light attack dmg is easily mitigated. Curse and Daedric Minefield are also useful when fighting DKs because they have to come close.

Tankqull

Amorpho wrote: »

Does anyone know for sure?

channeld attacks are not reflected as they are not projectiles everything else with a range over 22m is reflected.
abilities count as channeld abilities are:
destro lightning HA (fire and ice are projectiles)
resto HA
templars radiant destruction
and soul strike are the only not reflected range attacks.

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Oddly enough I don't think tangling webs (Undaunted skill line) gets reflected. It was going through my defensive posture every time.

Defensive posture also doesnt reflect arrows while Reflective Scale does reflect them.
I think the same goes for Tangling Webs.

Crushing Shock is reflected but it does count as 3 projectiles which can be used to your advantage.
Crushing Shock + fire staff light attack = 4 projectiles so you can hit the DK with Cfrags after that.

If you use Harness the reflected Crushing Shock + light attack dmg is easily mitigated. Curse and Daedric Minefield are also useful when fighting DKs because they have to come close.

nope that was changed during the 1.6 change where flaps were caped to 4 attacks due to the uproar of the DKs.

Amorpho

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Oddly enough I don't think tangling webs (Undaunted skill line) gets reflected. It was going through my defensive posture every time.

Defensive posture also doesnt reflect arrows while Reflective Scale does reflect them.
I think the same goes for Tangling Webs.

Crushing Shock is reflected but it does count as 3 projectiles which can be used to your advantage.
Crushing Shock + fire staff light attack = 4 projectiles so you can hit the DK with Cfrags after that.

If you use Harness the reflected Crushing Shock + light attack dmg is easily mitigated. Curse and Daedric Minefield are also useful when fighting DKs because they have to come close.

This is actually awsome! I didn't know that crushing shock actually couted for 3 projectiles! I always light attack + crush shock (with animation cancelling). DK days are officially over

lolo_01b16_ESO

Tankqull wrote: »

Amorpho wrote: »

Does anyone know for sure?

channeld attacks are not reflected as they are not projectiles everything else with a range over 22m is reflected.
abilities count as channeld abilities are:
destro lightning HA (fire and ice are projectiles)
resto HA
templars radiant destruction
and soul strike are the only not reflected range attacks.

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Oddly enough I don't think tangling webs (Undaunted skill line) gets reflected. It was going through my defensive posture every time.

Defensive posture also doesnt reflect arrows while Reflective Scale does reflect them.
I think the same goes for Tangling Webs.

Crushing Shock is reflected but it does count as 3 projectiles which can be used to your advantage.
Crushing Shock + fire staff light attack = 4 projectiles so you can hit the DK with Cfrags after that.

If you use Harness the reflected Crushing Shock + light attack dmg is easily mitigated. Curse and Daedric Minefield are also useful when fighting DKs because they have to come close.

nope that was changed during the 1.6 change where flaps were caped to 4 attacks due to the uproar of the DKs.

Actually anything with a range of more than 8m can be reflected.

Tankqull

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Amorpho wrote: »

Does anyone know for sure?

channeld attacks are not reflected as they are not projectiles everything else with a range over 22m is reflected.
abilities count as channeld abilities are:
destro lightning HA (fire and ice are projectiles)
resto HA
templars radiant destruction
and soul strike are the only not reflected range attacks.

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Oddly enough I don't think tangling webs (Undaunted skill line) gets reflected. It was going through my defensive posture every time.

Defensive posture also doesnt reflect arrows while Reflective Scale does reflect them.
I think the same goes for Tangling Webs.

Crushing Shock is reflected but it does count as 3 projectiles which can be used to your advantage.
Crushing Shock + fire staff light attack = 4 projectiles so you can hit the DK with Cfrags after that.

If you use Harness the reflected Crushing Shock + light attack dmg is easily mitigated. Curse and Daedric Minefield are also useful when fighting DKs because they have to come close.

nope that was changed during the 1.6 change where flaps were caped to 4 attacks due to the uproar of the DKs.

Actually anything with a range of more than 8m can be reflected.

actually there are a few aoes with a longer range than 8m wich are unaffected thats why i´ve chosen 22m to be on the safe side

Julianos

Alucardo wrote: »

Oddly enough I don't think tangling webs (Undaunted skill line) gets reflected. It was going through my defensive posture every time.

it gets reflected

TheShadowScout

Heh, reminds me of the time I poked my sorc into cyrodil... now, I like the crystals, which of course proved sucide against the first flapper DK I met... five minutes later, I met him again... with a completely redone skill bar, lightning staff heavy attack, scalding rune, lightning ring, daedric mines, daedric curse, and soul assault as ulti... got my first revenge kill on my sorc boy that way! Good times!

Volkodav

What I want to know is why enemies can throw projectiles at me,like those things they sling at me,but I havent the same weapons to use against them.
I think we should have every weapon that is used against us ingame. I dont mean skills.Just weapons.I'd love to fling knives,or even a boomerang at my enemies.

Destruent

Volkodav wrote: »

What I want to know is why enemies can throw projectiles at me,like those things they sling at me,but I havent the same weapons to use against them.
I think we should have every weapon that is used against us ingame. I dont mean skills.Just weapons.I'd love to fling knives,or even a boomerang at my enemies.

ehm...you have them? just equip/craft those weapons and choose the right skills? Dunno what you are referring to or if you are even serious...