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Nightblade won

NateAssassin
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ZOS just made Nightblade the best, nerf it already and buff sorc give me 30k ward and 40k dps overload back like how I did before you made nightblade city !!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

i wont play until u fix dis zos and im telling all my friends that ur bad game devs !!!!!
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  • FullBlownBeast
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    Nightblades are strong, yea, don't think anyone is gonna disagree there. But sorcs are perfectly fine also, lol. Don't really get what you are crying about.

    AYEEEEEEEEEEEE, i got it.
    Edited by FullBlownBeast on January 25, 2016 6:25PM
    Plain and Simple
  • ShadowDisciple
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    ZOS just made Nightblade the best, nerf it already and buff sorc give me 30k ward and 40k dps overload back like how I did before you made nightblade city !!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

    i wont play until u fix dis zos and im telling all my friends that ur bad game devs !!!!!

    lol buff sorc.. xD jokes are funny these days
  • Artjuh90
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    ye buff the top tier PvP and PvE class even further.
  • Lightninvash
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    ZOS just made Nightblade the best, nerf it already and buff sorc give me 30k ward and 40k dps overload back like how I did before you made nightblade city !!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

    i wont play until u fix dis zos and im telling all my friends that ur bad game devs !!!!!

    this guy is like a broken record he made a post saying he wouldn't ply till some change was made then now hes playing again and it hasn't changed.

    heres what I say if you don't like the changes to a class reroll ;)
  • Volkodav
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    ZOS just made Nightblade the best, nerf it already and buff sorc give me 30k ward and 40k dps overload back like how I did before you made nightblade city !!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

    i wont play until u fix dis zos and im telling all my friends that ur bad game devs !!!!!

    I feel for you,but I just cant quite reach you.
    Bye bye.
  • Jaeysa
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    ZOS just made Nightblade the best, nerf it already and buff sorc give me 30k ward and 40k dps overload back like how I did before you made nightblade city !!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

    i wont play until u fix dis zos and im telling all my friends that ur bad game devs !!!!!

    this guy is like a broken record he made a post saying he wouldn't ply till some change was made then now hes playing again and it hasn't changed.

    heres what I say if you don't like the changes to a class reroll ;)

    You mean he isn't just a troll?
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  • catalyst10e
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    ZOS just made Nightblade the best, nerf it already and buff sorc give me 30k ward and 40k dps overload back like how I did before you made nightblade city !!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

    i wont play until u fix dis zos and im telling all my friends that ur bad game devs !!!!!

    So here's the thing... with the game being B2P, the threat of "i wont play until u fix dis" holds no value.... you already bought the game, you already gave them your money...

    Sorcs do not need a buff, we are fine for the moment. If anyone needs buffs, I'd rather they look at DK and Temps first.

    Instead of asking for nerfs, instead ask for broad buffs. If you feel the NB class deserves a nerf, instead ask all classes get buffed to the NB level. Theres too many nerfs as it is, minor tweeks maybe need to be made, but dont call for nerfs.
    "Why settle for just stabbing your foes when you can roast them alive in a gout of arcane fire?"
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  • Volkodav
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    ZOS just made Nightblade the best, nerf it already and buff sorc give me 30k ward and 40k dps overload back like how I did before you made nightblade city !!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

    i wont play until u fix dis zos and im telling all my friends that ur bad game devs !!!!!

    So here's the thing... with the game being B2P, the threat of "i wont play until u fix dis" holds no value.... you already bought the game, you already gave them your money...

    Sorcs do not need a buff, we are fine for the moment. If anyone needs buffs, I'd rather they look at DK and Temps first.

    Instead of asking for nerfs, instead ask for broad buffs. If you feel the NB class deserves a nerf, instead ask all classes get buffed to the NB level. Theres too many nerfs as it is, minor tweeks maybe need to be made, but dont call for nerfs.

    Well said.
  • Stelo
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    ZOS just made Nightblade the best, nerf it already and buff sorc give me 30k ward and 40k dps overload back like how I did before you made nightblade city !!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

    i wont play until u fix dis zos and im telling all my friends that ur bad game devs !!!!!

    So here's the thing... with the game being B2P, the threat of "i wont play until u fix dis" holds no value.... you already bought the game, you already gave them your money...

    Sorcs do not need a buff, we are fine for the moment. If anyone needs buffs, I'd rather they look at DK and Temps first.

    Instead of asking for nerfs, instead ask for broad buffs. If you feel the NB class deserves a nerf, instead ask all classes get buffed to the NB level. Theres too many nerfs as it is, minor tweeks maybe need to be made, but dont call for nerfs.

    Now that I think about it, I feel DKs are "okay" if that makes sense? That's from my PvP experience anyway. I can destroy Sorcs and Temps, but other DKs and Stam NBs then WOOOO! Better get them pots ready. I think they should just buff Temps tbh :/ As for NBs, people go for the most effective so I understand why there's so many NBs in PvP. Temps on the other hand are veryyyyy scarce and I've yet to meet one that's hella beast.
  • Sausage
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    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Edited by Sausage on January 25, 2016 7:03PM
  • Volkodav
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    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Huh? Whiners? About what? What has this got to do with Siege damage? It's about Nightblades being the best class to play at the moment.
  • Sausage
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Huh? Whiners? About what? What has this got to do with Siege damage? It's about Nightblades being the best class to play at the moment.

    The original plan was, that siege dmg is the major thing to hate, and everybody has access to it, so they can only blame themselves if they dont use it and we avoid class vs class battles, because siege dmg is so low, glasscannons are on rampant.
    Edited by Sausage on January 25, 2016 7:05PM
  • Volkodav
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    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Huh? Whiners? About what? What has this got to do with Siege damage? It's about Nightblades being the best class to play at the moment.

    The original plan was, that siege dmg is the major thing to hate, and everybody has access to it, so they can only blame themselves if they dont use it and we avoid class vs class battles, because siege dmg is so low, glasscannons are on rampant.

    But what about all the people who dont go into Cyrodiil to use Siege weapons? I've never even thought about those type of weaponms,so why would I hate them. Plenty of other players dont have any use for them as well. Just saying,as we dont do PvP,get into those wars,etc.
  • Artjuh90
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    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    they are actually changing siege any time soon (nt sure if it is the thieves guild DLC). has been posted like 2 months ago...
  • Sausage
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Huh? Whiners? About what? What has this got to do with Siege damage? It's about Nightblades being the best class to play at the moment.

    The original plan was, that siege dmg is the major thing to hate, and everybody has access to it, so they can only blame themselves if they dont use it and we avoid class vs class battles, because siege dmg is so low, glasscannons are on rampant.

    But what about all the people who dont go into Cyrodiil to use Siege weapons? I've never even thought about those type of weaponms,so why would I hate them. Plenty of other players dont have any use for them as well. Just saying,as we dont do PvP,get into those wars,etc.

    NB isnt definitely strongest PVE class. Sorc is and VMA leaderboards are perfect proof of that.
    Edited by Sausage on January 25, 2016 7:13PM
  • Volkodav
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    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Huh? Whiners? About what? What has this got to do with Siege damage? It's about Nightblades being the best class to play at the moment.

    The original plan was, that siege dmg is the major thing to hate, and everybody has access to it, so they can only blame themselves if they dont use it and we avoid class vs class battles, because siege dmg is so low, glasscannons are on rampant.

    But what about all the people who dont go into Cyrodiil to use Siege weapons? I've never even thought about those type of weaponms,so why would I hate them. Plenty of other players dont have any use for them as well. Just saying,as we dont do PvP,get into those wars,etc.

    NB isnt definitely strongest PVE class. Sorc is and VMA leaderboards are perfect proof of that.

    Odd. It's been said a lot here that Sorcs arent,but that NBs are.Sorcs seem to have been nerfed down.I go by what I've read here.Not by personal opinion.
  • Shunravi
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Huh? Whiners? About what? What has this got to do with Siege damage? It's about Nightblades being the best class to play at the moment.

    The original plan was, that siege dmg is the major thing to hate, and everybody has access to it, so they can only blame themselves if they dont use it and we avoid class vs class battles, because siege dmg is so low, glasscannons are on rampant.

    But what about all the people who dont go into Cyrodiil to use Siege weapons? I've never even thought about those type of weaponms,so why would I hate them. Plenty of other players dont have any use for them as well. Just saying,as we dont do PvP,get into those wars,etc.

    NB isnt definitely strongest PVE class. Sorc is and VMA leaderboards are perfect proof of that.

    Odd. It's been said a lot here that Sorcs arent,but that NBs are.Sorcs seem to have been nerfed down.I go by what I've read here.Not by personal opinion.

    It's nerf mentality. Sorcs are top of the board in almost all instances.
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • Volkodav
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Huh? Whiners? About what? What has this got to do with Siege damage? It's about Nightblades being the best class to play at the moment.

    The original plan was, that siege dmg is the major thing to hate, and everybody has access to it, so they can only blame themselves if they dont use it and we avoid class vs class battles, because siege dmg is so low, glasscannons are on rampant.

    But what about all the people who dont go into Cyrodiil to use Siege weapons? I've never even thought about those type of weaponms,so why would I hate them. Plenty of other players dont have any use for them as well. Just saying,as we dont do PvP,get into those wars,etc.

    NB isnt definitely strongest PVE class. Sorc is and VMA leaderboards are perfect proof of that.

    Odd. It's been said a lot here that Sorcs arent,but that NBs are.Sorcs seem to have been nerfed down.I go by what I've read here.Not by personal opinion.

    It's nerf mentality. Sorcs are top of the board in almost all instances.

    Then why does everyone demand that NBs be dumbed down because they are OP?
    Edited by Volkodav on January 25, 2016 7:20PM
  • ShadowDisciple
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Huh? Whiners? About what? What has this got to do with Siege damage? It's about Nightblades being the best class to play at the moment.

    The original plan was, that siege dmg is the major thing to hate, and everybody has access to it, so they can only blame themselves if they dont use it and we avoid class vs class battles, because siege dmg is so low, glasscannons are on rampant.

    But what about all the people who dont go into Cyrodiil to use Siege weapons? I've never even thought about those type of weaponms,so why would I hate them. Plenty of other players dont have any use for them as well. Just saying,as we dont do PvP,get into those wars,etc.

    NB isnt definitely strongest PVE class. Sorc is and VMA leaderboards are perfect proof of that.

    Odd. It's been said a lot here that Sorcs arent,but that NBs are.Sorcs seem to have been nerfed down.I go by what I've read here.Not by personal opinion.

    It's nerf mentality. Sorcs are top of the board in almost all instances.

    Then why does everyone demand that NBs be dumbed down because they are OP?

    because nightblades are cool...

    i played rogues in almost every mmo i ever played...thats 10k+ hours of my life playing sneaky asassins..

    what happens is this...rogues/nb is weak at start (wow, eso and tons of other mmo's) then recieve a huge boost and become op (wow - wotlk, eso - 1.5 or 1.6 i forgot)...and then they get nerfed and they are always mediocre...

    thats the life for sneaky assasins in mmo's

    i never have and never will play magic/mage type of class... i consider mages kinda weak...and childish i dont know...kinda bratty..like Vanus Galerion...wish i could sacrifice him at the end..its just a personal opinion tough
    Edited by ShadowDisciple on January 25, 2016 7:31PM
  • ShadowDisciple
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    double post sry
    Edited by ShadowDisciple on January 25, 2016 7:30PM
  • Volkodav
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Huh? Whiners? About what? What has this got to do with Siege damage? It's about Nightblades being the best class to play at the moment.

    The original plan was, that siege dmg is the major thing to hate, and everybody has access to it, so they can only blame themselves if they dont use it and we avoid class vs class battles, because siege dmg is so low, glasscannons are on rampant.

    But what about all the people who dont go into Cyrodiil to use Siege weapons? I've never even thought about those type of weaponms,so why would I hate them. Plenty of other players dont have any use for them as well. Just saying,as we dont do PvP,get into those wars,etc.

    NB isnt definitely strongest PVE class. Sorc is and VMA leaderboards are perfect proof of that.

    Odd. It's been said a lot here that Sorcs arent,but that NBs are.Sorcs seem to have been nerfed down.I go by what I've read here.Not by personal opinion.

    It's nerf mentality. Sorcs are top of the board in almost all instances.

    Then why does everyone demand that NBs be dumbed down because they are OP?

    because nightblades are cool...

    i played rogues in almost every mmo i ever played...thats 10k+ hours of my life playing sneaky asassins..

    what happens is this...rogues/nb is weak at start (wow, eso and tons of other mmo's) then recieve a huge boost and become op (wow - wotlk, eso - 1.5 or 1.6 i forgot)...and then they get nerfed and they are always mediocre...

    thats the life for sneaky assasins in mmo's

    i never have and never will play magic/mage type of class... i consider mages kinda weak...and childish i dont know...kinda bratty..like Vanus Galerion...wish i could sacrifice him at the end..its just a personal opinion tough

    Hehehe.
    I love my NBs.Right from the time I create one,they seem to handle themselves just fine. :}
    Better than my two DKs.They had to be worked on to get t hem into shape.My NBs are tough right out the git.
  • Shunravi
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Huh? Whiners? About what? What has this got to do with Siege damage? It's about Nightblades being the best class to play at the moment.

    The original plan was, that siege dmg is the major thing to hate, and everybody has access to it, so they can only blame themselves if they dont use it and we avoid class vs class battles, because siege dmg is so low, glasscannons are on rampant.

    But what about all the people who dont go into Cyrodiil to use Siege weapons? I've never even thought about those type of weaponms,so why would I hate them. Plenty of other players dont have any use for them as well. Just saying,as we dont do PvP,get into those wars,etc.

    NB isnt definitely strongest PVE class. Sorc is and VMA leaderboards are perfect proof of that.

    Odd. It's been said a lot here that Sorcs arent,but that NBs are.Sorcs seem to have been nerfed down.I go by what I've read here.Not by personal opinion.

    It's nerf mentality. Sorcs are top of the board in almost all instances.

    Then why does everyone demand that NBs be dumbed down because they are OP?

    Because they got tired of complaining about sorcs for 2 years and they got the class heavily nerfed. So now its 'stop we have been nerfed enough.' Which i agree with, and i think some nerfs should be undone. Same with dragonknights. And they are underpowered because the general ability to stand your ground has been nerfed heavily.
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • Volkodav
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Huh? Whiners? About what? What has this got to do with Siege damage? It's about Nightblades being the best class to play at the moment.

    The original plan was, that siege dmg is the major thing to hate, and everybody has access to it, so they can only blame themselves if they dont use it and we avoid class vs class battles, because siege dmg is so low, glasscannons are on rampant.

    But what about all the people who dont go into Cyrodiil to use Siege weapons? I've never even thought about those type of weaponms,so why would I hate them. Plenty of other players dont have any use for them as well. Just saying,as we dont do PvP,get into those wars,etc.

    NB isnt definitely strongest PVE class. Sorc is and VMA leaderboards are perfect proof of that.

    Odd. It's been said a lot here that Sorcs arent,but that NBs are.Sorcs seem to have been nerfed down.I go by what I've read here.Not by personal opinion.

    It's nerf mentality. Sorcs are top of the board in almost all instances.

    Then why does everyone demand that NBs be dumbed down because they are OP?

    Because they got tired of complaining about sorcs for 2 years and they got the class heavily nerfed. So now its 'stop we have been nerfed enough.' Which i agree with, and i think some nerfs should be undone. Same with dragonknights. And they are underpowered because the general ability to stand your ground has been nerfed heavily.

    This IS true.
  • nordickittyhawk
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    ZOS just made Nightblade the best, nerf it already and buff sorc give me 30k ward and 40k dps overload back like how I did before you made nightblade city !!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

    i wont play until u fix dis zos and im telling all my friends that ur bad game devs !!!!!

    So here's the thing... with the game being B2P, the threat of "i wont play until u fix dis" holds no value.... you already bought the game, you already gave them your money...

    Sorcs do not need a buff, we are fine for the moment. If anyone needs buffs, I'd rather they look at DK and Temps first.

    Instead of asking for nerfs, instead ask for broad buffs. If you feel the NB class deserves a nerf, instead ask all classes get buffed to the NB level. Theres too many nerfs as it is, minor tweeks maybe need to be made, but dont call for nerfs.

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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Spiderman-Meme-8.jpg

    Now replace Spiderman with NBs.

    #SpidermanThread
    Edited by Forestd16b14_ESO on January 25, 2016 7:53PM
  • Sausage
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    they are actually changing siege any time soon (nt sure if it is the thieves guild DLC). has been posted like 2 months ago...

    It doesnt matter if they add Arena, whats confirmed right. Class vs Class Battles are becoming reality.

    I think my idea is one of the best ideas ever, hopefully we will see it in the future games.
    Edited by Sausage on January 25, 2016 7:53PM
  • Shunravi
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Whiners won like always, siege dmg was meant to be high for a multiple reason. Have you seen siege dmg whining lately? No. Zen should just follow the strategy, but devs never do.

    Huh? Whiners? About what? What has this got to do with Siege damage? It's about Nightblades being the best class to play at the moment.

    The original plan was, that siege dmg is the major thing to hate, and everybody has access to it, so they can only blame themselves if they dont use it and we avoid class vs class battles, because siege dmg is so low, glasscannons are on rampant.

    But what about all the people who dont go into Cyrodiil to use Siege weapons? I've never even thought about those type of weaponms,so why would I hate them. Plenty of other players dont have any use for them as well. Just saying,as we dont do PvP,get into those wars,etc.

    NB isnt definitely strongest PVE class. Sorc is and VMA leaderboards are perfect proof of that.

    Odd. It's been said a lot here that Sorcs arent,but that NBs are.Sorcs seem to have been nerfed down.I go by what I've read here.Not by personal opinion.

    It's nerf mentality. Sorcs are top of the board in almost all instances.

    Then why does everyone demand that NBs be dumbed down because they are OP?

    Because they got tired of complaining about sorcs for 2 years and they got the class heavily nerfed. So now its 'stop we have been nerfed enough.' Which i agree with, and i think some nerfs should be undone. Same with dragonknights. And they are underpowered because the general ability to stand your ground has been nerfed heavily.

    This IS true.

    The last bit is incidentally another part of the issue. NB and sorc are strong because they have defensive options that trump DKs and Temps.

    Zos doesnt consider the consequences of these changes. And they nerfed thing heavily based on outliers, evolving metas that hadnt yet solidified, and endless qq from people who didnt and showed no interest in how things worked. Example; 1vX oldstyle. The more bodies fed to them the stonger they were. But you send one maybe two guys at them? No where near as strong. I know a guy who was new to pvp who could take on a 1vXer simply because we let him go it alone while we took out the guys friends.

    But oh well...
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
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