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any advice on the bow?

lastango
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since my level 16 hybrid loser build dark elf dragonknight lasts a whole 10 seconds in pvps and dungeons when wielding swords... I have decided to make myself useful with a bow... any advice on how to distribute the points or useful DK magic compliments to bow?
  • Mojmir
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    bow and dk is weird, pick up a destroy staff, dunmer+destroy+DK is a great combo.
    Raising floors and lower ceilings by zos standards has created an iron maiden.
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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    If youre a Stam DK the bow will work nicely from the middle of larger groups or when youre on top of a wall/assaulting a Keep. Its not the best skill line but it allows an otherwise Melee character the ability to reach out and touch someone. There are a lot of people on the forums here with a hatred for the skill line. But you should take that with a grain of salt. Its quite effective if you know when to use it.

    If youre a Magicka DK. Go with Destro Staff for the obvious reasons of it utilizing the same attribute you have invested in.
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  • ontheleftcoast
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    I've only run hybrids with sword and board as their primary and restro as their back bar. But there are more things in Aetherius and Nirn than are dreamt of in my philosophy...

    At level 16 there's plenty of Dragonknight goodness you probably haven't unlocked. Same for your weapon but there might be a way to turn your build into a quagmire generator. There's a bow attack that immobilizes enemies and DK has root spamming capabilities. Hitting foes with a mix of stamina and magicka based attacks to keep them immobilized while you hit them with moderate damage might work out.

  • lastango
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    I'm a stamina based DK... and I just can't see grinding out a new character... I'm 45 and work full time ;-)

    I was hoping the bow could compliment my two handed sword or dual wield...

    so, is it advisable to re-dump all of my points from stamina into magic and go destruction staff? If I did that, what armor would I want? Would I want to dump werewolf and be a vamp? and what would I want my #2 bar to look like if my #1 was Staff?

    I would like to be useful or more powerful in PVP.
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    Hold down left click and use snipe to interrupt heavy attacks; block to animation cancel venom arrows for machine gun like rapid fire. you never need to let up on the left click
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  • runagate
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    In all fairness all level 16 hybrid builds suck.

    It certainly does not hurt to experiment and level up skill lines and find your favored playing style.

    That being said, dunmer + DK does rather beg to be a magicka-based fire mage. This works perfectly well with swords nowadays.

    Notably once you make some friends who'll make you Set gear of decent quality you will find the content much easier to handle. Take your time and enjoy your introduction to Tamriel because it only gets (much) easier from here.
  • Pheefs
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    do you enjoy being sneaky or defending keeps?
    both are good fun with a bow!

    & like others have said, hybrids are challenging...
    at lvl 16 all of us hybrids are a little pink and squishy.

    have some filled soul gems and practice killing more often than getting killed
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  • Volkodav
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    lastango wrote: »
    since my level 16 hybrid loser build dark elf dragonknight lasts a whole 10 seconds in pvps and dungeons when wielding swords... I have decided to make myself useful with a bow... any advice on how to distribute the points or useful DK magic compliments to bow?

    Bows work well with a DK.Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.You can get those skills up,and use them to rain death.I know,as my main vet is a DK.The others are NBs. All my DK uses are bows.I actually am V3 and still use my level 39 Prismatic Bow. He has no problems at all with his bow.
  • Refuse2GrowUp
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    lastango wrote: »
    since my level 16 hybrid loser build dark elf dragonknight lasts a whole 10 seconds in pvps and dungeons when wielding swords... I have decided to make myself useful with a bow... any advice on how to distribute the points or useful DK magic compliments to bow?

    Bows work well with a DK.Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.You can get those skills up,and use them to rain death.I know,as my main vet is a DK.The others are NBs. All my DK uses are bows.I actually am V3 and still use my level 39 Prismatic Bow. He has no problems at all with his bow.

    Sorry mate, but if you are V3 using a lvl 39 bow, especially one you were willing to use a hakeijo on to make prismatic at lvl 39, then you don't have much expert opinion to offer here.

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    OP. If you are stamina, and if the bow suites your play style, then you will do just fine with it and it can put out reasonable damage.
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  • Volkodav
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    lastango wrote: »
    since my level 16 hybrid loser build dark elf dragonknight lasts a whole 10 seconds in pvps and dungeons when wielding swords... I have decided to make myself useful with a bow... any advice on how to distribute the points or useful DK magic compliments to bow?

    Bows work well with a DK.Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.You can get those skills up,and use them to rain death.I know,as my main vet is a DK.The others are NBs. All my DK uses are bows.I actually am V3 and still use my level 39 Prismatic Bow. He has no problems at all with his bow.

    Sorry mate, but if you are V3 using a lvl 39 bow, especially one you were willing to use a hakeijo on to make prismatic at lvl 39, then you don't have much expert opinion to offer here.

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    OP. If you are stamina, and if the bow suites your play style, then you will do just fine with it and it can put out reasonable damage.

    I just said that it would work well,and yes,I DO have an opinion here.,Who are you to tell me otherwise.I have a DK stamina build that is just fine.Oh and what's a hakeijo?
    Edited by Volkodav on January 23, 2016 10:26AM
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Think his 39 prismatic bow is the reward from FG Quest line still, Hakejo is the rune for crafting the Glyph that makes prismatic enchantments. 40k a pop at the moment or you sweat sewers out for the MB fight in the centre and hope he drops one. Still that bow will be well under powered for V3
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    lastango wrote: »
    since my level 16 hybrid loser build dark elf dragonknight lasts a whole 10 seconds in pvps and dungeons when wielding swords... I have decided to make myself useful with a bow... any advice on how to distribute the points or useful DK magic compliments to bow?

    Bows work well with a DK.Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.You can get those skills up,and use them to rain death.I know,as my main vet is a DK.The others are NBs. All my DK uses are bows.I actually am V3 and still use my level 39 Prismatic Bow. He has no problems at all with his bow.

    Sorry mate, but if you are V3 using a lvl 39 bow, especially one you were willing to use a hakeijo on to make prismatic at lvl 39, then you don't have much expert opinion to offer here.

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    OP. If you are stamina, and if the bow suites your play style, then you will do just fine with it and it can put out reasonable damage.

    I just said that it would work well,and yes,I DO have an opinion here.,Who are you to tell me otherwise.I have a DK stamina build that is just fine.Oh and what's a hakeijo?

    more credibility lost -1

    when I say bow is weird for DK, its fine for leveling, but you have better options for dps,tank as a dk. if you wanna roll with that and your comfortable so be it.
    Raising floors and lower ceilings by zos standards has created an iron maiden.
    No matter how well you played,when the game is over,the king and pawn go back in the same box.
    Be careful what you ask for from zo$, you always get punished.
    Call me toxic,your the one being slowly poisoned by greed.
  • Brrrofski
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    lastango wrote: »
    since my level 16 hybrid loser build dark elf dragonknight lasts a whole 10 seconds in pvps and dungeons when wielding swords... I have decided to make myself useful with a bow... any advice on how to distribute the points or useful DK magic compliments to bow?

    Bows work well with a DK.Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.You can get those skills up,and use them to rain death.I know,as my main vet is a DK.The others are NBs. All my DK uses are bows.I actually am V3 and still use my level 39 Prismatic Bow. He has no problems at all with his bow.

    Sorry mate, but if you are V3 using a lvl 39 bow, especially one you were willing to use a hakeijo on to make prismatic at lvl 39, then you don't have much expert opinion to offer here.

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    OP. If you are stamina, and if the bow suites your play style, then you will do just fine with it and it can put out reasonable damage.

    I just said that it would work well,and yes,I DO have an opinion here.,Who are you to tell me otherwise.I have a DK stamina build that is just fine.Oh and what's a hakeijo?

    more credibility lost -1

    when I say bow is weird for DK, its fine for leveling, but you have better options for dps,tank as a dk. if you wanna roll with that and your comfortable so be it.

    Bow is amazing for Dk in pvp. It gives you range options and more importantly major expedition. No way would I drop it on mine
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  • Volkodav
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    lastango wrote: »
    since my level 16 hybrid loser build dark elf dragonknight lasts a whole 10 seconds in pvps and dungeons when wielding swords... I have decided to make myself useful with a bow... any advice on how to distribute the points or useful DK magic compliments to bow?

    Bows work well with a DK.Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.You can get those skills up,and use them to rain death.I know,as my main vet is a DK.The others are NBs. All my DK uses are bows.I actually am V3 and still use my level 39 Prismatic Bow. He has no problems at all with his bow.

    Sorry mate, but if you are V3 using a lvl 39 bow, especially one you were willing to use a hakeijo on to make prismatic at lvl 39, then you don't have much expert opinion to offer here.

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    OP. If you are stamina, and if the bow suites your play style, then you will do just fine with it and it can put out reasonable damage.

    I just said that it would work well,and yes,I DO have an opinion here.,Who are you to tell me otherwise.I have a DK stamina build that is just fine.Oh and what's a hakeijo?

    more credibility lost -1

    when I say bow is weird for DK, its fine for leveling, but you have better options for dps,tank as a dk. if you wanna roll with that and your comfortable so be it.

    No credibility lost here,my friend. :}
    Just two different styles of play.I see what you are saying totally.Another way to go with a DK. I never really have a strategy for playing.Well,until I found the NB recently. Goodness,what a different class to play.. I had no problem wiping out the baddies in Toothmaul Gully,which is level 7,if I remember.I was level 6,and those NBs are great to run with.
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    Serious? Level 6 playing pve level 7 is nothing compared to the issue the op has here. I guarantee everyone went into the first public dungeon under speccd and outmatched but came out on top. But lol any magika player using a bow or sword attacks is easy prey for me. Keep spreading this news. More stones for me.
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  • Volkodav
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    Serious? Level 6 playing pve level 7 is nothing compared to the issue the op has here. I guarantee everyone went into the first public dungeon under speccd and outmatched but came out on top. But lol any magika player using a bow or sword attacks is easy prey for me. Keep spreading this news. More stones for me.

    No stones from me,pal.I dont go there. IC is something I ignore.Nor do I complain about anything to do with it. :}
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    lastango wrote: »
    since my level 16 hybrid loser build dark elf dragonknight lasts a whole 10 seconds in pvps and dungeons when wielding swords... I have decided to make myself useful with a bow... any advice on how to distribute the points or useful DK magic compliments to bow?

    Bows work well with a DK.Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.You can get those skills up,and use them to rain death.I know,as my main vet is a DK.The others are NBs. All my DK uses are bows.I actually am V3 and still use my level 39 Prismatic Bow. He has no problems at all with his bow.

    Sorry mate, but if you are V3 using a lvl 39 bow, especially one you were willing to use a hakeijo on to make prismatic at lvl 39, then you don't have much expert opinion to offer here.

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    OP. If you are stamina, and if the bow suites your play style, then you will do just fine with it and it can put out reasonable damage.

    actually the prismatic weapon he referrs to is the quest reward of the fighterquest final step wich actually is one the best "drop" weapon until master/mealstrom weapons...
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    lastango wrote: »
    since my level 16 hybrid loser build dark elf dragonknight lasts a whole 10 seconds in pvps and dungeons when wielding swords... I have decided to make myself useful with a bow... any advice on how to distribute the points or useful DK magic compliments to bow?

    Bows work well with a DK.Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.You can get those skills up,and use them to rain death.I know,as my main vet is a DK.The others are NBs. All my DK uses are bows.I actually am V3 and still use my level 39 Prismatic Bow. He has no problems at all with his bow.

    Sorry mate, but if you are V3 using a lvl 39 bow, especially one you were willing to use a hakeijo on to make prismatic at lvl 39, then you don't have much expert opinion to offer here.

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    OP. If you are stamina, and if the bow suites your play style, then you will do just fine with it and it can put out reasonable damage.

    actually the prismatic weapon he referrs to is the quest reward of the fighterquest final step wich actually is one the best "drop" weapon until master/mealstrom weapons...

    srsly??? omg so many noobness in this thread
  • Volkodav
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    lastango wrote: »
    since my level 16 hybrid loser build dark elf dragonknight lasts a whole 10 seconds in pvps and dungeons when wielding swords... I have decided to make myself useful with a bow... any advice on how to distribute the points or useful DK magic compliments to bow?

    Bows work well with a DK.Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.You can get those skills up,and use them to rain death.I know,as my main vet is a DK.The others are NBs. All my DK uses are bows.I actually am V3 and still use my level 39 Prismatic Bow. He has no problems at all with his bow.

    Sorry mate, but if you are V3 using a lvl 39 bow, especially one you were willing to use a hakeijo on to make prismatic at lvl 39, then you don't have much expert opinion to offer here.

    _____________________

    OP. If you are stamina, and if the bow suites your play style, then you will do just fine with it and it can put out reasonable damage.

    actually the prismatic weapon he referrs to is the quest reward of the fighterquest final step wich actually is one the best "drop" weapon until master/mealstrom weapons...

    Yup it was the best reward I have gotten since I started playing in the first betas.. My Prismatic Bow does better than any other bow I have run across yet.And I aint giving it up. XD
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    lastango wrote: »
    since my level 16 hybrid loser build dark elf dragonknight lasts a whole 10 seconds in pvps and dungeons when wielding swords... I have decided to make myself useful with a bow... any advice on how to distribute the points or useful DK magic compliments to bow?

    do not do a hybrid build, respec and choose mag or stam, you will see how that will improve your dps and sustain!!
  • lastango
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    ...anyway... lots of good advice here. Thank you so much.

    2 big options...

    Stay a STAMINA build. Level up my bow. I have the Level 16 Hircine's Medium armor with the bow perk. Maxed out to Legendary.

    I'd probably keep my 2 handed for my second skill line over my dual wield.

    ...and what Dragon Knight magic to compliment the Bow?

    Option 2 ----> Switch my 60+ attribute points from stamina to MAGIC.
    Get a Destructo/fire staff
    Become a fire Mage

    Maybe use ? for my second skill bar


    II'll have fun either way - One thing I do know is that I am tired of dying too quickly and inflicting little damage against foes in PVP and dungeons.

    People focus the red beam on me and it sucks the life out of me in about 4-6 seconds when I am in Cyrodil.
    I am not sure if that is a skill line perk or a vampire skill line perk... either way, it sucks and it's embarrassing to be this helpless.

    I don't completely suck in combat - I have been playing elder scrolls games since Morrowwind... I am just EXTREMELY inexperienced with PVP. This is my first PVP ever. I do suck at PVP combat + builds.
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    some serious noobs posting up in here lol.
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