The Camo Hunter Fix Bugged Dual Wield Heavy Attacks

Xantaria

The second component of the Dual Wield Heavy Attack is unable to crit since the Camouflaged Hunter Fix.

The Fix also didn't work btw.

So basically what should have been written in the Patch Notes:

Tried to Fix Camouflaged Hunter but made Dual Wield Heavy Attacks unable to Crit instead.

Refuse2GrowUp

Xantaria wrote: »

The second component of the Dual Wield Heavy Attack is unable to crit since the Camouflaged Hunter Fix.

The Fix also didn't work btw.

So basically what should have been written in the Patch Notes:

Tried to Fix Camouflaged Hunter but made Dual Wield Heavy Attacks unable to Crit instead.

They said on live that they know the fix did not work. Instead of stopping the double proc on Camo Hunter, they simply reduced the proc rate. They are still trying to fix.

As for the second hit not crit'ing, I think it is a bit of a broken mechanic the two can individually hit for as much as a single hit anyway.

Alcast

So what they did was they just removed everything that could proc off the 2nd DW HA...so you cant proc camo anymore, you cant proc ANY effects anymore, including crit.

GJ

Mojmir

Alcast wrote: »

So what they did was they just removed everything that could proc off the 2nd DW HA...so you cant proc camo anymore, you cant proc ANY effects anymore, including crit.

GJ

but apparently it still works on other wep skills still(,i.e. bow)

WillhelmBlack

ofc

Xantaria

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

The second component of the Dual Wield Heavy Attack is unable to crit since the Camouflaged Hunter Fix.

The Fix also didn't work btw.

So basically what should have been written in the Patch Notes:

Tried to Fix Camouflaged Hunter but made Dual Wield Heavy Attacks unable to Crit instead.

They said on live that they know the fix did not work. Instead of stopping the double proc on Camo Hunter, they simply reduced the proc rate. They are still trying to fix.

As for the second hit not crit'ing, I think it is a bit of a broken mechanic the two can individually hit for as much as a single hit anyway.

? What the hell are you even saying?

If I hit for 50k with a 2h I demand to hit for 25k twice with dualwield. Common sense man!

And it has been working like that since release. Up Until they bugged this.

Refuse2GrowUp

Xantaria wrote: »

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

The second component of the Dual Wield Heavy Attack is unable to crit since the Camouflaged Hunter Fix.

The Fix also didn't work btw.

So basically what should have been written in the Patch Notes:

Tried to Fix Camouflaged Hunter but made Dual Wield Heavy Attacks unable to Crit instead.

They said on live that they know the fix did not work. Instead of stopping the double proc on Camo Hunter, they simply reduced the proc rate. They are still trying to fix.

As for the second hit not crit'ing, I think it is a bit of a broken mechanic the two can individually hit for as much as a single hit anyway.

? What the hell are you even saying?

If I hit for 50k with a 2h I demand to hit for 25k twice with dualwield. Common sense man!

And it has been working like that since release. Up Until they bugged this.

I am on console, so I cannot see damage numbers. But it would appear to me that Duel Wield heavy hits much harder than 2h heavy. Am I wrong? Yes, I get your point. But using 50k and 25k as an illustration is misleading as 2h melee weapons certainly do nott have twice as much weapon damage as 1h melee weapons.

A single crit from a single attack doesn't seem like the end of the world to me.

Mojmir wrote: »

but apparently it still works on other wep skills still(,i.e. bow)

It is supposed to still work on bow. The only thing they attempted to fix was that Camo Hunter could double proc on Duel Wield heavy attacks (i.e. one proc for each weapon, as both weapons hit on a DW heavy).

Xantaria

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

The second component of the Dual Wield Heavy Attack is unable to crit since the Camouflaged Hunter Fix.

The Fix also didn't work btw.

So basically what should have been written in the Patch Notes:

Tried to Fix Camouflaged Hunter but made Dual Wield Heavy Attacks unable to Crit instead.

They said on live that they know the fix did not work. Instead of stopping the double proc on Camo Hunter, they simply reduced the proc rate. They are still trying to fix.

As for the second hit not crit'ing, I think it is a bit of a broken mechanic the two can individually hit for as much as a single hit anyway.

? What the hell are you even saying?

If I hit for 50k with a 2h I demand to hit for 25k twice with dualwield. Common sense man!

And it has been working like that since release. Up Until they bugged this.

I am on console, so I cannot see damage numbers. But it would appear to me that Duel Wield heavy hits much harder than 2h heavy. Am I wrong? Yes, I get your point. But using 50k and 25k as an illustration is misleading as 2h melee weapons certainly do nott have twice as much weapon damage as 1h melee weapons.

A single crit from a single attack doesn't seem like the end of the world to me.

Mojmir wrote: »

but apparently it still works on other wep skills still(,i.e. bow)

It is supposed to still work on bow. The only thing they attempted to fix was that Camo Hunter could double proc on Duel Wield heavy attacks (i.e. one proc for each weapon, as both weapons hit on a DW heavy).

No Dualwield does not really hit harder than 2h. It is about the same. (Passives change it up a bit of course).

'But using 50k and 25k as an illustration is misleading as 2h melee weapons certainly do nott have twice as much weapon damage as 1h melee weapons.'

That's not how it works, that's not how any of this works. Dual Wield Heavy Attacks of course do not scale the same with Weapon Damage as a 2h Heavy Attack.

And this is in fact the end of the world for people like me who basically heavy attack every 2 seconds. I am loosing a *** of DPS to this. My build is extremely focused on crit. Too bad I can't crit anymore.

Anyways why make a bug seem less important because it 'is not the end of the world'. Bugs should not exist at all. No matter how small or impactful.

ZOS_GinaBruno

As @Refuse2GrowUp mentioned, we are aware that the fix for Camo Hunter in the last patch didn't completely work, and are actively working on a more comprehensive fix.

reften

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As @Refuse2GrowUp mentioned, we are aware that the fix for Camo Hunter in the last patch didn't completely work, and are actively working on a more comprehensive fix.

are you aware of the DW 2nd hit bug?

blur

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As @Refuse2GrowUp mentioned, we are aware that the fix for Camo Hunter in the last patch didn't completely work, and are actively working on a more comprehensive fix.

As I told @ZOS_BrianWheeler I have a video showing my DW nightblade not proccing Camo Hunter at all on non vamps. This is no longer a thing. Also regarding the DW heavy attack, I am not always getting a double proc. I would say this "fix" did it's job.

Alucardo

Look out boys. The upcoming comprehensive fix will most likely inadvertently nerf Templars or something.

MaxwellC

@Alucardo or DKs again
It'll be along the line "To reduce camo hunter proc ratio we had to increase the cast time of templars radial sweep and DKs whip to 1.1 seconds; we will improve on this in the next DLC patch i.e. Dark Brotherhood."

Lenikus

The camo hunter procs EVERY TIME there's an hit from stealth, and 6 or 8% of the time on ANY HIT.
So, at any stealth attack, there IS always a chance that the camo hunter will 'double proc'.

There is nothing to fix. It's working as described. Zeni should just stop listening to people who qq, and stand behind their game ._." ( at least when there's nothing wrong )

Xantaria

Lenikus wrote: »

The camo hunter procs EVERY TIME there's an hit from stealth, and 6 or 8% of the time on ANY HIT.
So, at any stealth attack, there IS always a chance that the camo hunter will 'double proc'.

There is nothing to fix. It's working as described. Zeni should just stop listening to people who qq, and stand behind their game ._." ( at least when there's nothing wrong )

They still have to fix the crit bug.

Lenikus

Xantaria wrote: »

Lenikus wrote: »

The camo hunter procs EVERY TIME there's an hit from stealth, and 6 or 8% of the time on ANY HIT.
So, at any stealth attack, there IS always a chance that the camo hunter will 'double proc'.
There is nothing to fix. It's working as described. Zeni should just stop listening to people who qq, and stand behind their game ._." ( at least when there's nothing wrong )

They still have to fix the crit bug.

Yea... That's what happens when they try to fix what ain't broke ;3

CtrlAltDlt

Why am I not surprised

Xantaria

Lenikus wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Lenikus wrote: »

The camo hunter procs EVERY TIME there's an hit from stealth, and 6 or 8% of the time on ANY HIT.
So, at any stealth attack, there IS always a chance that the camo hunter will 'double proc'.
There is nothing to fix. It's working as described. Zeni should just stop listening to people who qq, and stand behind their game ._." ( at least when there's nothing wrong )

They still have to fix the crit bug.

Yea... That's what happens when they try to fix what ain't broke ;3

Always.