Ranking system!

ShadowDisciple

So YOU think you're a good PVP player? Do you want ranking system? So you can really see how you stand versus other players.

We know Sypher is good. Or is he? Are there alot of ppl who are better than he is but are just unknown due to lack of their will to advertise themselves trough youtube or other social media?

I understand we can't have ranking in Cyrodill but potentialy we might get Arenas really soon. So would you like a Ranking System attached to these Arenas?

Would it ADD to your experience as ESO player, and maybe incentivise you to play better because you can actually see how many are better/worse than you?

I know i would. One of the core things i want in MMO's is COMPETITIVENESS... aaaaand i think ESO lacks in that department.

Didgerion

It won't be a player ranking system - it will be the Broken Balance rate system first and then players ranking system just like vMA is now.

The right question is: So YOU think you're using the most OP broken build and maybe a good PVP player? then go ahead an test it.

ShadowDisciple

I want a Ranking System ONLY in Arenas while retaining ability to play unranked queue

avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »

It won't be a player ranking system - it will be the Broken Balance rate system first and then players ranking system just like vMA is now.

The right question is: So YOU think you're using the most OP broken build and maybe a good PVP player? then go ahead an test it.

well wouldnt that help point out the FOTM and deal with it...you know, see whose leading the leaderboards and nerf the skil/race/class combo that makes it so easy to be "the best".

right now we only have a few loud people on forums cryung that Stam NB, Mag Sorc and WB is op...but on paper we dont really have any conclusive evidece that prove the case...esspecially since we see tons of stamina DK's dominating in cyrodiil and we consider it a weak class...

If you would head out to SWTOR leaderboards you would see that Sorcerer/sage class is above all others in pvp and they will soon recieve a treatment to make them more in balance...without their leaderboards people crying about Sorc/sage power would be just that, whiners, without conclusive proof that they in fact are overpowered and that their skillset is making people be the very best players without much effort or skill put into it.

Also i assure you my build is sub-optimal but i make it work for myself..i played Stamina NB when it was the worst class/skill combo you could play..all that experience + the imensse buff stam NB's got makes my gameplay alot better and i'm deffinatelly not the best player or even close to being the best but i still have a decent time in PVP and feel like i can be competitive to some extent...also ive been playing since 1.2 on and off and ive seen how the game progressed. which i doubt you have judging by your response...

if you can argument it better i'd be willing to change my opinion if you provide decent evidence to backup your arguments.

BippNasty

Random but I don't get how dks make stamina builds. Practically everything for dks are magika based

ShadowDisciple

I want a Ranking System ONLY in Arenas while retaining ability to play unranked queue

BippNasty wrote: »

Random but I don't get how dks make stamina builds. Practically everything for dks are magika based

2 handed or Dual wield with dots they have in ardent flame, combined with decent ultimates and sonewhat decent dmg mitigation skills.. + the great passives like batttle roar for example...

i get stomped by some dk's...maybe im just bad, and if i am im willing to admit it, but like i said, some dk's just rule as stamina dk's

p.s. dots in ardent flame only works for smaller battles, in larger battle almost always ppl purge the hell out of anything so they are rendered useless

Artjuh90

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »

It won't be a player ranking system - it will be the Broken Balance rate system first and then players ranking system just like vMA is now.

The right question is: So YOU think you're using the most OP broken build and maybe a good PVP player? then go ahead an test it.

well wouldnt that help point out the FOTM and deal with it...you know, see whose leading the leaderboards and nerf the skil/race/class combo that makes it so easy to be "the best".

right now we only have a few loud people on forums cryung that Stam NB, Mag Sorc and WB is op...but on paper we dont really have any conclusive evidece that prove the case...esspecially since we see tons of stamina DK's dominating in cyrodiil and we consider it a weak class...

If you would head out to SWTOR leaderboards you would see that Sorcerer/sage class is above all others in pvp and they will soon recieve a treatment to make them more in balance...without their leaderboards people crying about Sorc/sage power would be just that, whiners, without conclusive proof that they in fact are overpowered and that their skillset is making people be the very best players without much effort or skill put into it.

Also i assure you my build is sub-optimal but i make it work for myself..i played Stamina NB when it was the worst class/skill combo you could play..all that experience + the imensse buff stam NB's got makes my gameplay alot better and i'm deffinatelly not the best player or even close to being the best but i still have a decent time in PVP and feel like i can be competitive to some extent...also ive been playing since 1.2 on and off and ive seen how the game progressed. which i doubt you have judging by your response...

if you can argument it better i'd be willing to change my opinion if you provide decent evidence to backup your arguments.

who says stam DK is bad

ShadowDisciple

I want a Ranking System ONLY in Arenas while retaining ability to play unranked queue

Artjuh90 wrote: »

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »

It won't be a player ranking system - it will be the Broken Balance rate system first and then players ranking system just like vMA is now.

The right question is: So YOU think you're using the most OP broken build and maybe a good PVP player? then go ahead an test it.

well wouldnt that help point out the FOTM and deal with it...you know, see whose leading the leaderboards and nerf the skil/race/class combo that makes it so easy to be "the best".

right now we only have a few loud people on forums cryung that Stam NB, Mag Sorc and WB is op...but on paper we dont really have any conclusive evidece that prove the case...esspecially since we see tons of stamina DK's dominating in cyrodiil and we consider it a weak class...

If you would head out to SWTOR leaderboards you would see that Sorcerer/sage class is above all others in pvp and they will soon recieve a treatment to make them more in balance...without their leaderboards people crying about Sorc/sage power would be just that, whiners, without conclusive proof that they in fact are overpowered and that their skillset is making people be the very best players without much effort or skill put into it.

Also i assure you my build is sub-optimal but i make it work for myself..i played Stamina NB when it was the worst class/skill combo you could play..all that experience + the imensse buff stam NB's got makes my gameplay alot better and i'm deffinatelly not the best player or even close to being the best but i still have a decent time in PVP and feel like i can be competitive to some extent...also ive been playing since 1.2 on and off and ive seen how the game progressed. which i doubt you have judging by your response...

if you can argument it better i'd be willing to change my opinion if you provide decent evidence to backup your arguments.

who says stam DK is bad

i know they are not...its just that overall opinion on this forum is that stam dk is bad cuz idk, lava whip doesent have stamina morph or what not...idk i just see alot of times on forum that people say buff stam dk thats all

TheBonesXXX

I think there is not enough ability to change builds on the fly, but the numbers themselves overshadow raw skill at the moment, anyone could do everything right against an opponent but it all could just come down to build.

Just because someone builds well doesn't make them a top end player. Realistically there are just better builds than others at the current moment.

I am a bit mixed about this.

ShadowDisciple

I want a Ranking System ONLY in Arenas while retaining ability to play unranked queue

TheBonesXXX wrote: »

I think there is not enough ability to change builds on the fly, but the numbers themselves overshadow raw skill at the moment, anyone could do everything right against an opponent but it all could just come down to build.

Just because someone builds well doesn't make them a top end player. Realistically there are just better builds than others at the current moment.

I am a bit mixed about this.

you are right...2 poeple can use the same build and still 1 would kill the other all the time cuz of personal skill..

i mean you wont try to kill anyone with using all skils from restoration staff skill line would you...its a common sense that people use the best abilities given to them for certain situation...

and for pvp this is esspecially true...pve is relatively easy, once you know mechanics you are bassically smooth sailing, but pvp is everchaning and player behaviour is not as predictable as is in pve... still if you play your cards right you will get the upper hand...unless you wanna kill someone with Mutagen...then your beyond helping

WalkingLegacy

What do you rank in Cyrodil? Who throws out the most AoE?

NewBlacksmurf

Sweetrols?

I think that Cyrodil would have to change drastically to have a ranking system.

Suggestion is: @ZOS_RichLambert

=All campaigns that would only lasts for 1 -2 hours
-Castle Siege campaign
-Scrolls Campaign
-Faction vs Faction death match type

-Then this leaves a Cyrodil PvE that would need to be removed from PvP and stand alone so that ranking could occur and hopefully resolve LAG

ShadowDisciple

I want a Ranking System ONLY in Arenas while retaining ability to play unranked queue

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

What do you rank in Cyrodil? Who throws out the most AoE?

try reading my initial post..."I understand we can't have ranking in Cyrodill "...

and poll option is there for someone who might want a ranking system in cyro..

i guess in Cyro if you deal more than 50% of the dmg to player you can get a kill point...just for example...maybe even your deaths could be counted for a kill/death ratio...

Kill/Death ratio is actually a good indicator of players mentality...you can quickly see who is a smart patient player and who is a greedy lil goblin just jumping in fights..

idk i still think its hard to do ranking system in Cyro but i guess its not imposibble...just really reeaaally hard xD

WalkingLegacy

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

What do you rank in Cyrodil? Who throws out the most AoE?

try reading my initial post..."I understand we can't have ranking in Cyrodill "...

and poll option is there for someone who might want a ranking system in cyro..

i guess in Cyro if you deal more than 50% of the dmg to player you can get a kill point...just for example...maybe even your deaths could be counted for a kill/death ratio...

Kill/Death ratio is actually a good indicator of players mentality...you can quickly see who is a smart patient player and who is a greedy lil goblin just jumping in fights..

idk i still think its hard to do ranking system in Cyro but i guess its not imposibble...just really reeaaally hard xD

They're trying to elimate as much server comms as they can from Cyrodil. I think any type of personal rating system would make the lag worse.

I'm all for ranked and nonranked arenas/battlegrounds though.

ShadowDisciple

I want a Ranking System ONLY in Arenas while retaining ability to play unranked queue

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

What do you rank in Cyrodil? Who throws out the most AoE?

try reading my initial post..."I understand we can't have ranking in Cyrodill "...

and poll option is there for someone who might want a ranking system in cyro..

i guess in Cyro if you deal more than 50% of the dmg to player you can get a kill point...just for example...maybe even your deaths could be counted for a kill/death ratio...

Kill/Death ratio is actually a good indicator of players mentality...you can quickly see who is a smart patient player and who is a greedy lil goblin just jumping in fights..

idk i still think its hard to do ranking system in Cyro but i guess its not imposibble...just really reeaaally hard xD

They're trying to elimate as much server comms as they can from Cyrodil. I think any type of personal rating system would make the lag worse.

I'm all for ranked and nonranked arenas/battlegrounds though.

i dont think you know how coding for games works..

game programm coding is object oriented programming and believe me personal info like scoring causes absolutely minor stress on server..very very minor.

but i understand whyt you mean bro

Artjuh90

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »

It won't be a player ranking system - it will be the Broken Balance rate system first and then players ranking system just like vMA is now.

The right question is: So YOU think you're using the most OP broken build and maybe a good PVP player? then go ahead an test it.

well wouldnt that help point out the FOTM and deal with it...you know, see whose leading the leaderboards and nerf the skil/race/class combo that makes it so easy to be "the best".

right now we only have a few loud people on forums cryung that Stam NB, Mag Sorc and WB is op...but on paper we dont really have any conclusive evidece that prove the case...esspecially since we see tons of stamina DK's dominating in cyrodiil and we consider it a weak class...

If you would head out to SWTOR leaderboards you would see that Sorcerer/sage class is above all others in pvp and they will soon recieve a treatment to make them more in balance...without their leaderboards people crying about Sorc/sage power would be just that, whiners, without conclusive proof that they in fact are overpowered and that their skillset is making people be the very best players without much effort or skill put into it.

Also i assure you my build is sub-optimal but i make it work for myself..i played Stamina NB when it was the worst class/skill combo you could play..all that experience + the imensse buff stam NB's got makes my gameplay alot better and i'm deffinatelly not the best player or even close to being the best but i still have a decent time in PVP and feel like i can be competitive to some extent...also ive been playing since 1.2 on and off and ive seen how the game progressed. which i doubt you have judging by your response...

if you can argument it better i'd be willing to change my opinion if you provide decent evidence to backup your arguments.

who says stam DK is bad

i know they are not...its just that overall opinion on this forum is that stam dk is bad cuz idk, lava whip doesent have stamina morph or what not...idk i just see alot of times on forum that people say buff stam dk thats all

that has to do with the people aslo done with the WB spamm which is making PvP stale. and a instant damaging stam dps skill is never bad (ofc damage needs to be adjusted to this but balacing is ZoS his part). same with stam sorc they REALLY need more stam based class abilty's

Artjuh90

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

What do you rank in Cyrodil? Who throws out the most AoE?

try reading my initial post..."I understand we can't have ranking in Cyrodill "...

and poll option is there for someone who might want a ranking system in cyro..

i guess in Cyro if you deal more than 50% of the dmg to player you can get a kill point...just for example...maybe even your deaths could be counted for a kill/death ratio...

Kill/Death ratio is actually a good indicator of players mentality...you can quickly see who is a smart patient player and who is a greedy lil goblin just jumping in fights..

idk i still think its hard to do ranking system in Cyro but i guess its not imposibble...just really reeaaally hard xD

so you remove all larger scale battles being usefull for scaling, ye that fair. no there is no way to do this properly, it will just lead to more AOE spamms and we all know there is enough of that in cyrodiil

ShadowDisciple

I want a Ranking System ONLY in Arenas while retaining ability to play unranked queue

Artjuh90 wrote: »

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

What do you rank in Cyrodil? Who throws out the most AoE?

try reading my initial post..."I understand we can't have ranking in Cyrodill "...

and poll option is there for someone who might want a ranking system in cyro..

i guess in Cyro if you deal more than 50% of the dmg to player you can get a kill point...just for example...maybe even your deaths could be counted for a kill/death ratio...

Kill/Death ratio is actually a good indicator of players mentality...you can quickly see who is a smart patient player and who is a greedy lil goblin just jumping in fights..

idk i still think its hard to do ranking system in Cyro but i guess its not imposibble...just really reeaaally hard xD

so you remove all larger scale battles being usefull for scaling, ye that fair. no there is no way to do this properly, it will just lead to more AOE spamms and we all know there is enough of that in cyrodiil

agreed